The Office: Season 8

#76
#76
tvolsfan said:
A few good moments, but not a great episode.

The funniest thing is probably the writers' pathetic attempt to turn Andy from an irrelevant loser to a believable manager in a couple episodes.
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Well there is the possiblity he starts as manager but doesn't end the season as manager. But I agree, they did very little to set it up or explain why he got the job; it's just like "Here ya go!"
 
#78
#78
VolsSportsFan said:
Well there is the possiblity he starts as manager but doesn't end the season as manager. But I agree, they did very little to set it up or explain why he got the job; it's just like "Here ya go!"
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I have a small hunch this could happen...like, the branch takes a huge nose-dive or he has problems with anger management again.
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#79
#79
Sith Vol said:
I have a small hunch this could happen...like, the branch takes a huge nose-dive or he has problems with anger management again.
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I don't know if it was a throwaway line just for a laugh or it was put in to setup future storylines, but Andy did say something like "and work in that we lost our biggest client" when saying he needed to go talk to California.
 
#80
#80
I liked the episode fairly well, but I can see what everyone is talking about with Andy being manager. He was the worst salesman but he was the second choice behind California? That doesn't make since to begin with and then he being given the job makes less since, but I'll role with it. And until it was brought up here, I had forgotten that Gabe was supposed to be gone. Why was he even there? The only thing I can think of is that he works for California like he worked for Jo, but they didn’t mention anything about Gabe in the opener.

But after thinking about it, what bugged me was this. I can't remember, but have they ever come back with the first episode and did a "wrap-up" or review of the character's lives since the last episode of the previous season? If the documentary format is supposed to be believed, shouldn't one season role into the next like the filming is continuous (like Parks & Rec. did from season to season)? There should have been no reason for a break from the time a new manager was being sought after and one was found, at least not one long enough for Pam to be THAT pregnant. I know Sarah Fisher is pregnant for real so it would be impossible to write that she wasn't pregnant in the show but it didn't make any since that they did a review of stuff that happened like the documentary crew hasn’t been there for months. Makes it kinda obvious that it’s a TV show IMO.
 
#81
#81
SyxxSynse said:
I liked the episode fairly well, but I can see what everyone is talking about with Andy being manager. He was the worst salesman but he was the second choice behind California? That doesn't make since to begin with and then he being given the job makes less since, but I'll role with it. And until it was brought up here, I had forgotten that Gabe was supposed to be gone. Why was he even there? The only thing I can think of is that he works for California like he worked for Jo, but they didn’t mention anything about Gabe in the opener.

But after thinking about it, what bugged me was this. I can't remember, but have they ever come back with the first episode and did a "wrap-up" or review of the character's lives since the last episode of the previous season? If the documentary format is supposed to be believed, shouldn't one season role into the next like the filming is continuous (like Parks & Rec. did from season to season)? There should have been no reason for a break from the time a new manager was being sought after and one was found, at least not one long enough for Pam to be THAT pregnant. I know Sarah Fisher is pregnant for real so it would be impossible to write that she wasn't pregnant in the show but it didn't make any since that they did a review of stuff that happened like the documentary crew hasn’t been there for months. Makes it kinda obvious that it’s a TV show IMO.
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1. The reason Andy got the job is that he's the best person for a job in middle management. Just because he isn't a good salesman doesn't mean he isn't capable of leading others.

2. I think it's supposed to be believed that it's a television documentary, which means it's split into seasons. Parks and Rec continuously follows events. Office continuously follows a show that follows events. I feel like they almost always have a slight wrap-up of the summer's events.
 
#82
#82
I called it last season re Andy, when he saved those big accounts at the end
 
#83
#83
crusse10 said:
1. The reason Andy got the job is that he's the best person for a job in middle management. Just because he isn't a good salesman doesn't mean he isn't capable of leading others.

2. I think it's supposed to be believed that it's a television documentary, which means it's split into seasons. Parks and Rec continuously follows events. Office continuously follows a show that follows events. I feel like they almost always have a slight wrap-up of the summer's events.
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1. Ok, that makes since. I don't have a problem with Andy as manager, but it just seems a little weird that a lovable loser type like him could be a leader of any kind.

2. I couldn't remember from season to season if they did a review or not. It just seems like this time there was a lot of change in what should have been a limited amount of time.
 
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#84
#84
Actually they did do a "wrap-up" in past seasons. I don't think they went into that much detail, but I think last season Michael talked about what movies he saw and stuff like, pretty much saying he didn't do anything very big over the summer.

I would agree with you crusse on Andy, except the past few seasons they've made it clear that pretty much no one else in the office respects him very much. They think he's a bad salesman and he's an idiot. With Michael, he at least had a rep as a great salesman so he had some respect with the office, but Andy has never shown to have any from his coworkers.
 
#85
#85
VolsSportsFan said:
Actually they did do a "wrap-up" in past seasons. I don't think they went into that much detail, but I think last season Michael talked about what movies he saw and stuff like, pretty much saying he didn't do anything very big over the summer.

I would agree with you crusse on Andy, except the past few seasons they've made it clear that pretty much no one else in the office respects him very much. They think he's a bad salesman and he's an idiot. With Michael, he at least had a rep as a great salesman so he had some respect with the office, but Andy has never shown to have any from his coworkers.
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FWIW, he does have management training
 
#86
#86
Still don't understand how Gabe is still around. I thought he got shipped off to Florida with Jo.
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#88
#88
The writers wrote-in that Pam got pregnant on the PDA episode from last season. That episode when they kept trying to go have sex during their breaks. They are using that as the time she got pregnant. And then I guess during the "summer break" from filming she grew the baby bump.

Her character was really, really annoying this 1st episode. Hope it won't be like this from here on out.
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#90
#90
crusse10 said:
1. The reason Andy got the job is that he's the best person for a job in middle management. Just because he isn't a good salesman doesn't mean he isn't capable of leading others.
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1. He was the worst (or second worst) person at his job.
2. He never seemed to have the respect of anyone that worked there.
3. He was the freaking whistleblower.
4. He has been sent to anger management for outbursts at the office.
5. He often irritates the hell out of anyone he is around.

He may get a laugh every now and then, but this hire isn't remotely believable.
 
#91
#91
tvolsfan said:
1. He was the worst (or second worst) person at his job.
2. He never seemed to have the respect of anyone that worked there.
3. He was the freaking whistleblower.
4. He has been sent to anger management for outbursts at the office.
5. He often irritates the hell out of anyone he is around.

He may get a laugh every now and then, but this hire isn't remotely believable.
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True on most accounts. I think 5 is debatable now. Season 7 wasn't as bad as before. The character matured a lot and the other employees starting liking him.

This promotion was solely based on Ed Helms, and the fact that he's the biggest name on the show now. Perhaps his anger management will trigger up again and it'll get him demoted?
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#92
#92
SyxxSynse said:
I liked the episode fairly well, but I can see what everyone is talking about with Andy being manager. He was the worst salesman but he was the second choice behind California? That doesn't make since to begin with and then he being given the job makes less since, but I'll role with it. And until it was brought up here, I had forgotten that Gabe was supposed to be gone. Why was he even there? The only thing I can think of is that he works for California like he worked for Jo, but they didn’t mention anything about Gabe in the opener.

But after thinking about it, what bugged me was this. I can't remember, but have they ever come back with the first episode and did a "wrap-up" or review of the character's lives since the last episode of the previous season? If the documentary format is supposed to be believed, shouldn't one season role into the next like the filming is continuous (like Parks & Rec. did from season to season)? There should have been no reason for a break from the time a new manager was being sought after and one was found, at least not one long enough for Pam to be THAT pregnant. I know Sarah Fisher is pregnant for real so it would be impossible to write that she wasn't pregnant in the show but it didn't make any since that they did a review of stuff that happened like the documentary crew hasn’t been there for months. Makes it kinda obvious that it’s a TV show IMO.
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Synse*
 
#93
#93
Sith Vol said:
True on most accounts. I think 5 is debatable now. Season 7 wasn't as bad as before. The character matured a lot and the other employees starting liking him.
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That's part of what bothers me. They couldn't stand him for so long and they tried to make him change so quickly.
 
#94
#94
I'm sure from the moment they found out Steve wasn't coming back after 7 they got the idea to make Andy the new manager. I really doubt they intended on Ferrell being a real replacement, and same for Jim, Dwight, Creed, Robert C. It was all for laughs. I think they knew Andy would be the new manager since day 1 of season 7.
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#97
#97
Sith Vol said:
True on most accounts. I think 5 is debatable now. Season 7 wasn't as bad as before. The character matured a lot and the other employees starting liking him.

This promotion was solely based on Ed Helms, and the fact that he's the biggest name on the show now. Perhaps his anger management will trigger up again and it'll get him demoted?
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Andrew Bernard was a fungus. He really did grow on everyone in the office.

Although the whistleblower ordeal puts that off kilter.
 
#98
#98
DinkinFlicka said:
Krasinski?
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1. Love the name.
2. No. Ed Helms is the biggest cast member and it's not even close. The other problem is that Jim is too normal to get the job. The only way the show can sustain itself is if there's a legitimate questioning of the boss' credentials.
 
#99
#99
DinkinFlicka said:
Andrew Bernard was a fungus. He really did grow on everyone in the office.

Although the whistleblower ordeal puts that off kilter.
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By the end of last season, most people didn't hate Andy (Michael, Jim, Pam, Darryl, Phyllis, Erin, and Kevin, to name a few)
 
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