The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

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#1,278
Grand Vol said:
I'd love to help, but I'm not specifically sure of the problem or specifically what you want to be done. You have an AR, correct? With a bull barrel?

Pictures if possible would help as well.
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An AR no. I have a composited framed .17 with 24'' bull barrel, over scoped (if there is such a thing). That does not have a swivel swing pivot ball for a sling. It is "pinched" and drilled. it will accept a studed swivel swing attachedment but there is no stud or screw to be replaced or attached to by a swivel and tilt bipod. There fore I have to use a barrel mounted bipod.

The problem is there are no complete sets in either the weaver, picanny, universal or 1913 picanny rail systems. I'm only finding mixed and matched by way of intermediate pieces or as I call them Adapter for the adaptors.
The barrel is in the .781 to a 20mm range.

It looks like their would be a complete set sold for attaching a bipod to the bull barrel. this is were I think I'm missing the boat. I'm just not seeing anything on line.
 
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#1,279
orangeblooded2 said:
An AR no. I have a composited framed .17 with 24'' bull barrel, over scoped (if there is such a thing). That does not have a swivel swing pivot ball for a sling. It is "pinched" and drilled. it will accept a studed swivel swing attachedment but there is no stud or screw to be replaced or attached to by a swivel and tilt bipod. There fore I have to use a barrel mounted bipod.

The problem is there are no complete sets in either the weaver, picanny, universal or 1913 picanny rail systems. I'm only finding mixed and matched by way of intermediate pieces or as I call them Adapter for the adaptors.
The barrel is in the .781 to a 20mm range.

It looks like their would be a complete set sold for attaching a bipod to the bull barrel. this is were I think I'm missing the boat. I'm just not seeing anything on line.
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I kind of understand what you are looking at. The problem is if you attach anything to the barrel, you will lose the free float which will affect accuracy. Might not be a whole lot being that it's a relatively short range cartridge, but still will affect it.

Now what you could do is that a buddy of mine did to his hunting rifle. He ended up drilling a couple of holes in the bottom of the stock and put a Magpul MOE type rail like this:

AR-15/M16 MOE™ ACCESSORY RAILS | Brownells

And used plenty of Loctite inside the holes before he put the screws in. The holes were slightly smaller than the screws so they would bite more. It's held up pretty well through two hunting seasons and this method opened him up to be able to use any 1913 or Weaver type mount for his bipod.

It's a reasonably inexpensive and quick fix for a lack of a bipod swivel on conventional stocks.
 
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#1,280
Grand Vol said:
I kind of understand what you are looking at. The problem is if you attach anything to the barrel, you will lose the free float which will affect accuracy. Might not be a whole lot being that it's a relatively short range cartridge, but still will affect it.

Now what you could do is that a buddy of mine did to his hunting rifle. He ended up drilling a couple of holes in the bottom of the stock and put a Magpul MOE type rail like this:

AR-15/M16 MOE™ ACCESSORY RAILS | Brownells

And used plenty of Loctite inside the holes before he put the screws in. The holes were slightly smaller than the screws so they would bite more. It's held up pretty well through two hunting seasons and this method opened him up to be able to use any 1913 or Weaver type mount for his bipod.

It's a reasonably inexpensive and quick fix for a lack of a bipod swivel on conventional stocks.
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Imput appreciated Grand Vol. I will reseach it out and see where it takes me.

Thanks.
 
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volinbham said:
Nice pick ups.

I'm currently looking into a Sig p238 - very close.
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I sold one back in the fall. I had bought it at JFloyds in Sevierville. They had a great deal on them soon after they were released (paid 480 for a bi-tone w/ a laser). I screwed up because I let the Sig laser go with it. Apparently I could've sold it for another 50 bucks. I don't like lasers so I never installed it.

Great little gun. I just liked the TCPs/LCPs as far as easy summer carry stuff goes.
 
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#1,283
Grand Vol said:
My new additions to the stable. On the left is a Sig-Sauer 1911 Tac-Ops and on the right is a Sig-Sauer 1911-22. Caught the Easter Sale from Palmetto that basically ended up getting me the .22 for free. Or close enough.

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My local gun shop was running a BOGO Sig 1911 .45 and .22 about 2 months ago. Probably my biggest regret not picking them up on the spot. Have yet to see another deal like that. Shot the .45 at the range the other day and was amazed at the awesomeness.
 
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Found some 22LR. at the gun show 1000 for $165.00 Winchester or CCI Most said they could get them but they held them back for local customers. One group had a skid of them. Said that they were on their second one. I ended up getting some .17 beleive it or not they were cheaper than the 22LR.
 
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orangeblooded2 said:
Found some 22LR. at the gun show 1000 for $165.00 Winchester or CCI Most said they could get them but they held them back for local customers. One group had a skid of them. Said that they were on their second one. I ended up getting some .17 beleive it or not they were cheaper than the 22LR.
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$165?!??!?!?!?!?!

WTF? Are those people smoking crack?!?!?!
 
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orangeblooded2 said:
Yep, my cousin had me looking at them for him he had the same reaction. The bad thing was they were selling the crap out of them.
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A couple of months ago, maybe three at the outside, my LGS had some in. 500 Winchester black box for $27. They had the Federal stuff earlier, the one made specifically for semi-autos for about $30.

I was apologized to profusely by the owners since they seemed embarrassed to be charging that (they sold out in a day as well) because they's the minimum they could for overhead. I'd buy from them any day of the week.

It still astounds me that the big ammo companies like Federal, Winchester and Remington haven't started running the lines 24/7 on .22 and just flooded the market. The demand is out there.

Those greedy vermin need to be choked out. Same reason I won't buy anything else from Cheaper than Dirt ever again.
 
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Anyone here ever shoot IDPA? I was thinking of trying to get into a match sometime. I do IPSC monthly, but the gamers tend to ruin it (although I beat out all but one with my stock AR yesterday in the IPSC supplemental).
 
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Grand Vol said:
A couple of months ago, maybe three at the outside, my LGS had some in. 500 Winchester black box for $27. They had the Federal stuff earlier, the one made specifically for semi-autos for about $30.

I was apologized to profusely by the owners since they seemed embarrassed to be charging that (they sold out in a day as well) because they's the minimum they could for overhead. I'd buy from them any day of the week.

It still astounds me that the big ammo companies like Federal, Winchester and Remington haven't started running the lines 24/7 on .22 and just flooded the market. The demand is out there.

Those greedy vermin need to be choked out. Same reason I won't buy anything else from Cheaper than Dirt ever again.
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Between the lines not running all the time and the hoarders camping out to buy anything that hits the shelves...its a rough time to be a plinker.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Between the lines not running all the time and the hoarders camping out to buy anything that hits the shelves...its a rough time to be a plinker.
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Everything else is back close to pre-crisis prices except .22.

Remington, Winchester and Federal just need to get together and flood the market at the same time. Starve the profiteers out and maybe even catch them in a bind where they lose money.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Everything else is back close to pre-crisis prices except .22.

Remington, Winchester and Federal just need to get together and flood the market at the same time. Starve the profiteers out and maybe even catch them in a bind where they lose money.
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I know, between all the .223 and 7.62x39 on the shelves I'm honestly surprised stores aren't offering sales on it.

I'd be all for them flooding the .22 market.

Back before everything went to crap, I bought a 1500 rounds of CCI mini mag (15 packs). There was a decent deal at a show (imagine that!) so I loaded up just to have a bunch on hand to toss in the bag when we went to the range.

I'm down to my last 300.
 
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My most recent addition: Smith and Wesson M&P AR-15 with desert drab trimming and flip up sights. I'm considering an EOTech holo for funsies.
 
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#1,297
With Bud's fixing to open up a Sevierville store, supposedly Knife Works going to start selling guns, the gun market fixing to get weird up there. Add in Bass Pro and that's 3 big box gun places.

Bud's is supposed to have 25(!) range lanes.


Which reminds me, Someone Else's Treasures in Oak Ridge is also opening a small range this summer.


I'm glad to see a few more options as far as ranges go. The Knoxville Area could use a couple more options.
 
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#1,298
Finally got some range time with my new Sigs yesterday and Lawd, they are both awesome. We were at a friend's house where we have a redneck engineered target stand in his back 40. Long story short, we have two inch steel pipes we drive into the ground that hold up a wooden pallet for targets. Not exactly pretty, but it works very well.

Anyway, we're back about 35 yards or so and had hung some bottles on the pallet and were plinking away at them. I kept hearing a "ding, ding, ding" as I was taking shots. Thought it might have been the pistol for a moment, but found out I kept hitting the support pipes as I was shooting at one particular bottle.

The .45 is a tack driver and the .22 fed and cycled every .22 I had out there. Only managed to get 150 rounds out of each before we ran out of daylight, but they are keepers.
 
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#1,299
Grand Vol said:
Finally got some range time with my new Sigs yesterday and Lawd, they are both awesome. We were at a friend's house where we have a redneck engineered target stand in his back 40. Long story short, we have two inch steel pipes we drive into the ground that hold up a wooden pallet for targets. Not exactly pretty, but it works very well.

Anyway, we're back about 35 yards or so and had hung some bottles on the pallet and were plinking away at them. I kept hearing a "ding, ding, ding" as I was taking shots. Thought it might have been the pistol for a moment, but found out I kept hitting the support pipes as I was shooting at one particular bottle.

The .45 is a tack driver and the .22 fed and cycled every .22 I had out there. Only managed to get 150 rounds out of each before we ran out of daylight, but they are keepers.
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Nice. Refresh my memory, did you do the buy one/get one free deal Sig had?



As far as targets go, campaign signs and a can of the cheapest white spray paint are great backyard targets.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Nice. Refresh my memory, did you do the buy one/get one free deal Sig had?

As far as targets go, campaign signs and a can of the cheapest white spray paint are great backyard targets.
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No, I got the double deal from Palmetto, but the price pretty much meant I got the .22 for free.
 
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