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Ruby de la Rosa, Webster, Barnes, Owens, possibly Ranaudo all have a shot to provide some life to this rotation a few years down the road. Add them to Buchholz and Doubront and it could be a big strength for the Sox moving forward if they pan out.
 
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I agree they could, but definitely not putting the AL East title on that possibility. Ruby yes, Webster and Barnes might not see time till Sept.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
Is there any legs to this Hamilton/Red Sox rumor or is it a tire kick job?
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With 2 corner OF spots open I am sure they are in the converstation at least. But I have yet to see anything more than speculation.

I would like to think that after the Crawford deal among others, they would be a little more cautious in regards to throwing money and more importantly, years, into a contract with someone with this many red flags.

Having said that, 3 or 4 years max, say 70-80 mill, sign me up. Stick him in left field, he can have the DH slot in 2 years after Ortiz hangs them up.
 
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ionaVOL said:
With 2 corner OF spots open I am sure they are in the converstation at least. But I have yet to see anything more than speculation.

I would like to think that after the Crawford deal among others, they would be a little more cautious in regards to throwing money and more importantly, years, into a contract with someone with this many red flags.

Having said that, 3 or 4 years max, say 70-80 mill, sign me up. Stick him in left field, he can have the DH slot in 2 years after Ortiz hangs them up.
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If he stays healthy, I think it would be a huge get. IMO.
I'd love to see him produce in Boston.
 
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Interesting article on how flexible they really are this year in terms of payroll...this obviously won't happen, but the article points out they have enough to offer some key free agents huge one year deals if they can't find multi year offers anywhere else...

They began the offseason with not even $40 million committed to 2013. They have since pushed that total to about $55 million, following free agent deals for David Ortiz and David Ross.

That leaves a staggering $123 million (or thereabouts) to spend on 2013 without crossing the $178 million luxury tax threshold. And if the goal is simply to be under the $189 million threshold by 2014 (and thus become eligible for revenue-sharing rebates), then the Red Sox could treat this offseason as one very grand experiment.

Now a chunk of their surplus will be consumed by players under team control (like Jacoby Ellsbury who could earn $10 million in arbitration), but using the arbitration projections from MLB Trade Rumors, let’s say the Sox spend $30 million on their 11 arbitration-eligible players.

That still leaves over $90 million for the rest of the roster, some of which will go to pre-arbitration players like Felix Doubront, Will Middlebrooks and Co., with another $10 million set aside for the ancillary costs (medical benefits, etc.) that apply to the payroll for luxury tax purposes.

Even conservatively, then, the Red Sox could very comfortably spend $70 million this winter. And if the only luxury tax year they’re concerned with is 2014 (the boat the Yankees are in), then they could spend even more.

And here’s where. If Hamilton’s market fails to materialize, would he consider a one-year deal for $30 million? How about $18 million for Kuroda and $16 million apiece for Napoli and Haren? Throw another $5 million at PED question mark Melky Cabrera and suddenly the Red Sox boast a deep lineup and a rotation capable of competing with Tampa, Toronto, or anyone else.
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Ben Cherington, knock them over - BostonHerald.com
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
Is there any legs to this Hamilton/Red Sox rumor or is it a tire kick job?
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Just saw this actually...

Rob Bradford of WEEI.com reports that the Red Sox' interest in Josh Hamilton is "overblown."
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CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reported earlier Thursday that many believe the Sox will make a big play for the top free agent hitter, but Bradford says Hamilton "doesn't appear to be near the top of the team's list of players it hopes to target." He adds that Boston, like other teams, is hesitant to commit to the number of years Hamilton is looking for. The Mariners, Brewers, Orioles and Braves reportedly have some interest in Hamilton, but where he ends is totally up in the air at this point.
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ionaVOL said:
Some points from a recent podcast with Alex Speier and BA's Jim Callis talking about the Sox top 10 prospects according to BA.

http://audio.weei.co...-jim-callis.htm



Admittedly I don't know much about this kid Henry Owens, but I like what I read. Hope he isn't the next Andrew Miller.

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Also found this article on Brentz, good, quick read with a short video on a couple guys playing in the AFL. I know Brentz is your boy jmoore, definitely hoping to see him continue to develop and play at Fenway, seems to have a great attitude.

Bryce Brentz working in Arizona Fall League at shaking off bad at-bats | redsox.com: News
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Good read on Brentz, thanks for the link. I'm really hoping he continues to develop & takes over RF at Fenway. I'm trying not to get all caught up in our farm system ATP, I have a habit of thinking everyone can play on the ML team. Lol. But it's hard not to get excited about some of these guys we do have.

Getting Webster & DLR back from the Dodgers was huge IMO, we really needed to add to Barnes/Raunodo. That was the first time I had heard about the Owens kid, I'll have to start keeping up w/ him also.

I'm really anxious to see how Boagearts & Bradley Jr. develops. Some people are saying Boagearts may make a impact in Boston by the end of the 2013 season.

It's crazy, about 1 1/2 years ago the farm system seemed delpeted in talent. Now it has some nice depth to it.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
Is there any legs to this Hamilton/Red Sox rumor or is it a tire kick job?
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IF it's on a 1-2 year deal I wouldn't be to upset about it but the Sox better NOT go in on a long term deal. That would go against everything that traded away back in August. They need to be smart w/ their $ & build the farm system It's not about how many All-Stars you can sign b/c that doesn't guarantee anything.
 
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Read the other day that the Sox may be negotiating a extension w/ Pedroia. I'm very excited about that b/c Pedey is my favorite player in MLB, but I can't hide the fact that his reckless play does worry me in the long term, he's prone to getting injured.
 
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I'm the same way with prospects, i always tend to over value them. Cost controlled young talent is definitely the way to go in todays game tho. Its important to stock up the farm system but you have to identify which ones to trade and which to hang on to. I think Boston is really pretty successful at that to, Rizzo being the only one that jumps out at me that I wish they would have kept. Going back further, maybe Annibel Sanchez.

Hopefully out of this current system they have some real impact players, there's a good chance of it i think.

Love to extend Pedey, he needs to be here his whole career. Perfect mentality for this town and a real team leader.
 
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From Boston.com

Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that the Red Sox deal for Jonny Gomes is $10 million over two years, $5 million each season.

That's quite a raise for Gomes, who made $1 million last season.

That seems like a lot for one-dimensional player with severe platoon splits. But this is a market where 37-year-old Torii Hunter received two years and $26 million from the Tigers.

That the Sox are willing to drop $10 million on Gomes suggests they could view him as a regular player and not part of a platoon.
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Gomes, who turns 32 on Thursday, hit .262/.377/.491 for Oakland last season with 18 home runs and 47 RBIs in 333 plate appearances and 99 games.

Gomes is a righthanded hitter who has always hit lefthanders well. He hit .299 with a .974 OPS against lefthanders last season in 164 at-bats. He hit .209 with a .715 OPS against righthanders in 115 at-bats.

Gomes has primarily played left field in his career, and not very well. But the Sox appear willing to take that risk in return for righthanded power.

Gomes was the regular left fielder for the Reds in 2010 and had a solid season, hitting .266/.327/.431 with 18 home runs.
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Red Sox are closing in on a 3-year deal for Mike Napoli, he will be the 1B & catch a little.

Sox will now turn their attention to Swisher & Ross.

Also, Sox will bring De La Rosa to Spring Training as a Starter to see how he looks.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Red Sox are closing in on a 3-year deal for Mike Napoli, he will be the 1B & catch a little.

Sox will now turn their attention to Swisher & Ross.

Also, Sox will bring De La Rosa to Spring Training as a Starter to see how he looks.
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LOL just came to post this. Guess he didn't get that 4th year he was looking for, or at least he made the smart decision not to take it in Seattle. Have a feeling Ruby will start in the minors, hope he shows out this spring tho and makes the team, a lot of talent there.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Me too.

Hoping they can get a deal in place w/ Ross now.
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Sounds like Gomes is in line to get a ton of AB's, pretty much a full time player from what Cherington has said. Don't know how I feel about that yet. Kalish is supposedly in the best shape ever (again) and hopefully finally healthy.

Ellsbury - CF
Ross - RF
Gomes - LF
Kalish - 4th OF

Napoli - 1B
Pedey - 2B
Iglesias - SS (Heard the Sox are still in on S Drew at this point)
Middlebrooks - 3B

Lavarnway/Ross - C
Ortiz - DH

Hoping to see Salty traded...we still need pitching, bring Aceves back.
 
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Napoli wRC+ over the past four seasons:

09: 121
10: 115
11: 177
12: 114

you tell me which is the outlier. He's fun when he's hot, though.
 
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005 said:
Napoli wRC+ over the past four seasons:

09: 121
10: 115
11: 177
12: 114

you tell me which is the outlier. He's fun when he's hot, though.
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Ehh I see what you're saying here and by no means is a savior, but I don't see his '11 as that much of an outlier.

Wasn't really a full time player in LA, plus the park effect and lineup in Boston should be pretty favorable. Wouldn't shock me to see similar production to what Ross did this year, probably more HR's/RBI, lower Avg. Consistently has a good/great OBP, I'm on board for 3 years.

@PeteAbe: Among RH hitters, Napoli's .931 OPS the last two seasons trails only Cabrera, Bautista, Braun and Kemp
 
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