The Official NCAA Selection Show Thread (Monday May 27 NOON EST ESPN2 )

[knoxvol52]

FL got in because if Cags. Made for TV.

FL got in because if Cags. Made for TV.

This is most likely true but still doesn't make the selection right.

Teams like Penn State and Pittsburgh got left out because they aren't known for baseball. Even though they had a good enough season to get in.

 

[taylorvol]

FL got in because if Cags. Made for TV.

Also being runner up last year in Omaha didn’t hurt FL either.

 

[VolPack22]

Would Tennessee got selected for Tournament with a record of 28-27.

Not unless Danny White were on the selection committee.

 

[VolPack22]

Also being runner up last year in Omaha didn’t hurt FL either.

Guess they will just have to settle for runner up in their regional this year.

 

[VolPack22]

The SECT should have been used as a de facto play in for those 13-17 teams to get into the NCAAT. Alabama and Florida didn’t win a game so they should be left out.

 

[WillisWG]

Tennessee Vols No Longer Favorites to Win College World Series

The Tennessee Volunteers are no longer the odds on favorite to win the College World Series in Omaha, according to some books in Vegas. The road to Omaha and t

www.si.com

that curse

Odds to Win The College World Series

• Texas A&M +500
• Tennessee +600
• LSU +900
• Kentucky +1000
• Arkansas +1000
• Wake Forest +1200
• Clemson +1300
• Oregon State +1500
• North Carolina +1500
• Florida State +1800
• Duke +2000
• Georgia +2200

Entering Monday's selection show, it was Tennessee who was the odds on favorite at +500 to win the title. Though following the selection show where Tennessee was awarded the No. 1 overall seeding and given their regional opponents, Texas A&M's odds were adjusted ahead of the Vols.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Not unless Danny White were on the selection committee.

Now there’s an idea that I can get behind.

 

[AthensVol2007]

We aren’t talking “what ifs”. What if we didn’t blow those SEC games in late innings? We would have at least 3 more wins, right? See how what ifs work? We didn’t play well enough to win those games so we LOST. We’re talking what actually happened, and what actually happened on the field was five teams finished 13-17 (two of them 13-18 if you include the SECT) and not all of them deserved to make it. Maybe be better and get those hits or don’t give up those runs as a pitcher or don’t throw that ball away as a defender and you end up a little better team with a little better record. Either get better and cut down on your mistakes or stop getting hand outs from biased selection committees. Go out and earn it. Alabama and Florida did not earn it.

You’re assuming though that the teams you’re lobbying for would do better or at minimum as good. That’s the question the committee is posed with; is a 13-17 LSU team better than an 18-12 Troy team. I’d pose it to you this way, if you had the money to wager and were a gambling man who would you bet on to go further in the NCAAT; Troy/CofC/GaSo or LSU/Vandy/Scar/UF? The 3 teams you’ve lobbied for played a combined 36 Q1 games, UF played 31 by themselves. Ga So won 22% of their Q1 games if that held and they did that over UF’s schedule they’d be 7-24 in Q1 games compared to UF’s 13-18. If they had gone 5-6 in their Q1 games and had a comparable winning % as UF or LSU they’d have a case. But when the at large field is, in essence, all Q1 teams we see how they would be expected to perform based on their data from the very recent past. JMU who had a worse or equal conference record as Troy and Ga So, also got in out of the Sun Belt, why? Because they played 15 Q1 games and went 7-8 and their SOS was 47 places higher.

 

[AthensVol2007]

This is most likely true but still doesn't make the selection right.

Teams like Penn State and Pittsburgh got left out because they aren't known for baseball. Even though they had a good enough season to get in.

Pitt was 3 games below .500, they’re terrible.

 

[knoxvol52]

Pitt was 3 games below .500, they’re terrible.

4 games worse than Florida, so Florida isn't much better. Maybe another team I was thinking about. Wait let me run and google .

TCU was the team don't know why I kept saying Pittsburgh.

33-21 overall record
39 RPI 27 KPI
5-12 in Quad 1 games.

 

[VolGee4]

The SOS is a component of the RPI so they go hand in hand. Coastal was 17 spots better in the RPI than GSU and 21 spots better than Troy because of that SOS. I won’t disagree that shenanigans go on behind the scenes and the criteria changes by the year (or hour) but as @VolGee4 said not all records are equal. I won’t pretend to understand the RPI and the SOS formulas cause they don’t make sense. When I look at UNC having SOS than us despite playing less Q1 and Q2 games combined and playing more Q3 and Q4 games combined than us I see no way their SOS can be higher. We both played 9 Q2 games however we played 30 Q1 games to their 17. That should offset our 20 Q4 games to their 12 but clearly it doesn’t.

The low RPI teams like Albany, Alabama A&M, Queens, and Bellarmine really hurt. The SOS is your opponents’ winning percentage and opponents’ opponents’ winning percentage, and the SOS makes up a bunch of the RPI.

UNC played a 3 game series with ECU, played VCU, Campbell, UNCW, South Carolina, and Coastal- all with 30+ wins. They didn’t play a team with less than 18 wins. We played six of those games.

There is a sweet spot for midweek games. Need to play teams that you can beat playing young talent but will also win some games.

 

[DazzleVol]

that curse

Odds to Win The College World Series

• Texas A&M +500
• Tennessee +600

Already changing, ut is +500, am is +550

All that money popping on UT

 

[Tenacjim]

Tennessee Vols No Longer Favorites to Win College World Series

The Tennessee Volunteers are no longer the odds on favorite to win the College World Series in Omaha, according to some books in Vegas. The road to Omaha and t

www.si.com

that curse

Odds to Win The College World Series

• Texas A&M +500
• Tennessee +600
• LSU +900
• Kentucky +1000
• Arkansas +1000
• Wake Forest +1200
• Clemson +1300
• Oregon State +1500
• North Carolina +1500
• Florida State +1800
• Duke +2000
• Georgia +2200

Entering Monday's selection show, it was Tennessee who was the odds on favorite at +500 to win the title. Though following the selection show where Tennessee was awarded the No. 1 overall seeding and given their regional opponents, Texas A&M's odds were adjusted ahead of the Vols.

The curse and look who they have as the 6th most likely team to win it (ahead of multiple #1 seeds)……

 

[VolPack22]

You’re assuming though that the teams you’re lobbying for would do better or at minimum as good. That’s the question the committee is posed with; is a 13-17 LSU team better than an 18-12 Troy team. I’d pose it to you this way, if you had the money to wager and were a gambling man who would you bet on to go further in the NCAAT; Troy/CofC/GaSo or LSU/Vandy/Scar/UF? The 3 teams you’ve lobbied for played a combined 36 Q1 games, UF played 31 by themselves. Ga So won 22% of their Q1 games if that held and they did that over UF’s schedule they’d be 7-24 in Q1 games compared to UF’s 13-18. If they had gone 5-6 in their Q1 games and had a comparable winning % as UF or LSU they’d have a case. But when the at large field is, in essence, all Q1 teams we see how they would be expected to perform based on their data from the very recent past. JMU who had a worse or equal conference record as Troy and Ga So, also got in out of the Sun Belt, why? Because they played 15 Q1 games and went 7-8 and their SOS was 47 places higher.

I have said this numerous times, I will never bet on baseball. It’s the most unpredictable sport of the major sports, so if you like betting on the sport then by all means more power to you. We always say “how often does the best team really win the whole thing?” That question right there should tell you all you need to know. In the last 20 CWS, 4 of them have been mid majors so I don’t want to hear that it can’t be done. People want to talk all these metrics but at the end of the day if can’t even perform well within your own conference throughout the season you shouldn’t be in the tournament. So what are we going to do next year? Start letting 11 win SEC teams in because Texas and Oklahoma are joining. The whole thing is a joke.

 

[tn4elvis]

Agreed.... especially about wake vs a sec for. Only fly in the ointment is Burns. Love him or hate him, the dude is a darned good pitcher. He'll be dialed in for that one as will we, but as the saying goes....good pitching beats good hitting more often than not.

We have a lot of left hand power . Burk ,Tears,Drieling, and who ever the DH is that game. Plus Lns has a short rf porch.

 

[VolPack22]

Tennessee Vols No Longer Favorites to Win College World Series

The Tennessee Volunteers are no longer the odds on favorite to win the College World Series in Omaha, according to some books in Vegas. The road to Omaha and t

www.si.com

that curse

Odds to Win The College World Series

• Texas A&M +500
• Tennessee +600
• LSU +900
• Kentucky +1000
• Arkansas +1000
• Wake Forest +1200
• Clemson +1300
• Oregon State +1500
• North Carolina +1500
• Florida State +1800
• Duke +2000
• Georgia +2200

Entering Monday's selection show, it was Tennessee who was the odds on favorite at +500 to win the title. Though following the selection show where Tennessee was awarded the No. 1 overall seeding and given their regional opponents, Texas A&M's odds were adjusted ahead of the Vols.

The love for Wake since the preseason has been ridiculous. They finished .500 in the ACC and woefully underperformed compared to their preseason expectations. They lost to an awful Notre Dame and only won half their series. I’m still baffled how they swept Clemson. That was way out of the ordinary for them. I really don’t get it, all for one player. You need a lot more than one pitcher to win these regionals and super regionals. It’s going to be a struggle just to get to Knoxville, let alone get to Omaha.

 

[knoxvol52]

I have said this numerous times, I will never bet on baseball. It’s the most unpredictable sport of the major sports, so if you like betting on the sport then by all means more power to you. We always say “how often does the best team really win the whole thing?” That question right there should tell you all you need to know. In the last 20 CWS, 4 of them have been mid majors so I don’t want to hear that it can’t be done. People want to talk all these metrics but at the end of the day if can’t even perform well within your own conference throughout the season you shouldn’t be in the tournament. So what are we going to do next year? Start letting 11 win SEC teams in because Texas and Oklahoma are joining. The whole thing is a joke.

Betting on Baseball is for suckers.

 

[knoxvol52]

The love for Wake since the preseason has been ridiculous. They finished .500 in the ACC and woefully underperformed compared to their preseason expectations. They lost to an awful Notre Dame and only won half their series. I’m still baffled how they swept Clemson. That was way out of the ordinary for them. I really don’t get it, all for one player. You need a lot more than one pitcher to win these regionals and super regionals. It’s going to be a struggle just to get to Knoxville, let alone get to Omaha.

Wow, Wake Forest 6th best odds to win CWS and are a 2seed.

 

[fryeguy93]

Really looking forward to attending the Friday afternoon Indiana/USM game and yelling

“WINNER WINNER RIBLETS DINNER!”

At the victor.

 

[WillisWG]

The toughest regional in the 2024 DI baseball bracket, according to Michella Chester

Out of 64 teams only eight will make it to the College World Series in Omaha. Michella Chester has made her pick for who will have the toughest journey there.

www.ncaa.com

She may be right on Stillwater but Knoxville?

According to her, teams in the Stillwater Regional (hosted by Oklahoma State) can expect the most daunting path ahead of the CWS.

Honorable Mentions​

• Knoxville Regional hosted by Tennessee
  • No. 1 Tennessee (50-11)
  • No. 2 Southern Miss. (41-18)
  • No. 3 Indiana (32-24-1)
  • No. 4 Northern Ky. (35-22)

 

[VolPack22]

Wow, Wake Forest 6th best odds to win CWS and are a 2seed.

Already setting making sure the fix is in. Can’t have the number 1 pick miss Omaha. Oh the travesty.

 

[WillisWG]

NCAA baseball tournament preview: Regions to watch, national championship prediction and more

NCAA's Michella Chester was joined by D1Baseball's Kendall Rogers and Aaron Fitt to make predictions ahead of the 2024 NCAA DI baseball tournament.

www.ncaa.com

Toughest region for a hosting team:​

• Knoxville: Southern Miss played Tennessee last year, they have a great pitching staff and an experienced line-up
• Clemson: The experience and depth of both Coastal Carolina and Vanderbilt make it tough for Erik Bakich's Tigers
• Stillwater: Offense, offense, offense in Stillwater. This region will provide some fireworks

Most exciting super regional potential:​

• Georgia vs. NC State: Two of the best offenses and hottest teams in the country squaring off to get to Omaha.
• LSU vs. Arizona: The return of Jay Johnson. LSU's head coach took Arizona to the championship series in 2016.
• Kentucky vs. Oregon State: Blue blood vs. new blood. Kentucky has been outstanding this year, but would have to go through Travis Bazzana and the Beavers to get to Omaha for the first time.
• Tennessee vs. Wake Forest: Clear your schedule. Chase Burns returns to Knoxville in what would be an electric super regional.

National championship series predictions:​

Kendall:

• Tennessee to beat Texas A&M

 

[VolPack22]

The toughest regional in the 2024 DI baseball bracket, according to Michella Chester

Out of 64 teams only eight will make it to the College World Series in Omaha. Michella Chester has made her pick for who will have the toughest journey there.

www.ncaa.com

She may be right on Stillwater but Knoxville?

According to her, teams in the Stillwater Regional (hosted by Oklahoma State) can expect the most daunting path ahead of the CWS.

Honorable Mentions​

• Knoxville Regional hosted by Tennessee
  • No. 1 Tennessee (50-11)
  • No. 2 Southern Miss. (41-18)
  • No. 3 Indiana (32-24-1)
  • No. 4 Northern Ky. (35-22)

After this weekend, Clemson is going to be tired of playing SEC teams for Tennessee in their regional every year

 

[knoxvol52]

Already setting making sure the fix is in. Can’t have the number 1 pick miss Omaha. Oh the travesty.

Oh lawd not the conspiracy theory before first pitch .

 

[VolPack22]

NCAA baseball tournament preview: Regions to watch, national championship prediction and more

NCAA's Michella Chester was joined by D1Baseball's Kendall Rogers and Aaron Fitt to make predictions ahead of the 2024 NCAA DI baseball tournament.

www.ncaa.com

Toughest region for a hosting team:​

• Knoxville: Southern Miss played Tennessee last year, they have a great pitching staff and an experienced line-up
• Clemson: The experience and depth of both Coastal Carolina and Vanderbilt make it tough for Erik Bakich's Tigers
• Stillwater: Offense, offense, offense in Stillwater. This region will provide some fireworks

Most exciting super regional potential:​

• Georgia vs. NC State: Two of the best offenses and hottest teams in the country squaring off to get to Omaha.
• LSU vs. Arizona: The return of Jay Johnson. LSU's head coach took Arizona to the championship series in 2016.
• Kentucky vs. Oregon State: Blue blood vs. new blood. Kentucky has been outstanding this year, but would have to go through Travis Bazzana and the Beavers to get to Omaha for the first time.
• Tennessee vs. Wake Forest: Clear your schedule. Chase Burns returns to Knoxville in what would be an electric super regional.

National championship series predictions:​

Kendall:

• Tennessee to beat Texas A&M

Great, we have the kiss of death…