The Official NCAA Selection Show Thread (Monday May 27 NOON EST ESPN2 )

#528
#528
knoxvol52 said:
I've never saw so many individuals scared of a pitcher, who can only pitch one time in a weekend series.
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I’ve never seen so many individuals be the flag bearer for 13-17 teams. It’s a great feeling, knowing that 45% of our SEC participants are a combined 65-85 while the others are a combined 117-63. Think about that for a moment. Our top 6 teams have less losses combined than all of those 13 win teams have wins combined. Pathetic.
 
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#529
#529
VolPack22 said:
I’ve never seen so many individuals be the flag bearer for 13-17 teams. It’s a great feeling, knowing that 45% of our SEC participants are a combined 65-85 while the others are a combined 117-63. Think about that for a moment. Our top 6 teams have less losses combined than all of those 13 win teams have wins combined. Pathetic.
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Bama and Florida both should not have been in this tournament. Those are the most laughable.
 
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#530
#530
Orange931 said:
Bama and Florida both should not have been in this tournament. Those are the most laughable.
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Wholeheartedly agree. Prior to the conference tournaments I was open to the idea of 2, MAYBE 3 of the 13-17 teams in if they all proved it in the SECT but Alabama and Florida were one and done so essentially they finished 13-18 in conference play. That is crazy whenever we start letting teams like that get at large bids. But Florida’s AD has a seat at the table so…
 
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#531
#531
VolPack22 said:
Wholeheartedly agree. Prior to the conference tournaments I was open to the idea of 2, MAYBE 3 of the 13-17 teams in if they all proved it in the SECT but Alabama and Florida were one and done so essentially they finished 13-18 in conference play. That is crazy whenever we start letting teams like that get at large bids. But Florida’s AD has a seat at the table so…
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@cobbwebb0710 putting on his Jack Caglione jersey as we speak.
 
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#533
#533
VolPack22 said:
Wholeheartedly agree. Prior to the conference tournaments I was open to the idea of 2, MAYBE 3 of the 13-17 teams in if they all proved it in the SECT but Alabama and Florida were one and done so essentially they finished 13-18 in conference play. That is crazy whenever we start letting teams like that get at large bids. But Florida’s AD has a seat at the table so…
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And to me it doesn’t matter what they do in this tournament considering how strange baseball is and how teams can make a run at any time. Earn it during the time you’re supposed to which is regular season and SEC tournament. How far either of those two go in this tournament will never take away the bs factor that they got in. It’s truly sickening.
 
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#536
#536
VolPack22 said:
Guess we will never know because they weren’t afforded the opportunity even though they won their conference while those two teams finished 10th and 11th in their conference. Crazy how all it takes is one week of baseball to change people’s minds whenever we saw how they looked over a 30 game schedule. LSU was considered a bubble team going into the SECT and all because they won 4 games (2 against the 10 seed mind you) in 1 week they are now magically a 2 seed.
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Thats how it always works, they’re on the bubble and have work to do going into Hoover; and that work included picking up 4 more Q1 wins. They lost all 6 games to Arkansas and UT on the road by 15 combined runs. One extra hit in one game apiece in both of those series and maybe we’re talking about a 15-15 or 16-14 team and there’s no debate. That’s the margin for error in this league between a winning league record and a losing one; 1-2 hits over a series.
 
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#540
#540
AthensVol2007 said:
Thats how it always works, they’re on the bubble and have work to do going into Hoover; and that work included picking up 4 more Q1 wins. They lost all 6 games to Arkansas and UT on the road by 15 combined runs. One extra hit in one game apiece in both of those series and maybe we’re talking about a 15-15 or 16-14 team and there’s no debate. That’s the margin for error in this league between a winning league record and a losing one; 1-2 hits over a series.
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We aren’t talking “what ifs”. What if we didn’t blow those SEC games in late innings? We would have at least 3 more wins, right? See how what ifs work? We didn’t play well enough to win those games so we LOST. We’re talking what actually happened, and what actually happened on the field was five teams finished 13-17 (two of them 13-18 if you include the SECT) and not all of them deserved to make it. Maybe be better and get those hits or don’t give up those runs as a pitcher or don’t throw that ball away as a defender and you end up a little better team with a little better record. Either get better and cut down on your mistakes or stop getting hand outs from biased selection committees. Go out and earn it. Alabama and Florida did not earn it.
 
#542
#542
VolPack22 said:
As long as humans are left to be in charge of selecting teams there will always be biased decisions. We were always told that RPI was the biggest factor in selecting teams but now it is strength of schedule all the sudden. I’m being serious whenever I say if Florida was so deserving with their SOS then why wasn’t Ole Miss? They had the 2nd SOS and only finished 2 games back and 2 spots back in RPI along with 1 less Q1 win. Florida wasn’t even a bubble team in the committee’s eyes so Ole Miss should have been in based on the criteria they used. Next year it will be head to head. The year after it will be your record in day games vs nights games. The year after it will be run differential. The next year will be how many bat flips you do. They will always pick and choose what to use to make an argument for their team to get in and if they run out of arguments they make a gentleman’s agreement to vote for each other’s teams.
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The SOS is a component of the RPI so they go hand in hand. Coastal was 17 spots better in the RPI than GSU and 21 spots better than Troy because of that SOS. I won’t disagree that shenanigans go on behind the scenes and the criteria changes by the year (or hour) but as @VolGee4 said not all records are equal. I won’t pretend to understand the RPI and the SOS formulas cause they don’t make sense. When I look at UNC having SOS than us despite playing less Q1 and Q2 games combined and playing more Q3 and Q4 games combined than us I see no way their SOS can be higher. We both played 9 Q2 games however we played 30 Q1 games to their 17. That should offset our 20 Q4 games to their 12 but clearly it doesn’t.
 
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#544
#544
Orange931 said:
That has nothing to do with them not earning it. It doesn’t matter to me who we play at all. They shouldn’t have a chance to make a run.
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not earning it is very subjective and left up to lots of interpretations. This year, winning 13 games in the SEC was enough in the minds of the committee
 
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#547
#547
OldTimer said:
not earning it is very subjective and left up to lots of interpretations. This year, winning 13 games in the SEC was enough in the minds of the committee
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It was enough for selection committee member Scott Strickland, Florida’s AD.
 
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#548
#548
VolPack22 said:
I’ll go ahead save you that “best 64 teams” crap. Any tournament that offers auto bids to a conference tournament champion regardless of record is not the best 64 teams 😂
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I always felt the automatic qualifier is winning the reg season. The tourneys should add (or subtract) to resumes of bubble teaMs but not automatically get them into postseason.
 
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