The Official Tennessee Titans thread IV

[JMSqb11]

This interview is intresting. Amy tried to work with Vrabel and he said no. Sounds like Vrabel canned himself.

Amy getting upset about Vrabel (a former player and notable figure in a dynasty) getting fan fare over New England's Ring of Honor ceremony is hilarious to me

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Amy getting upset about Vrabel (a former player and notable figure in a dynasty) getting fan fare over New England's Ring of Honor ceremony is hilarious to me

I think that's just the tip of the iceberg. But honestly it's very weird that instead of being at home working to make the Titans better he's out hanging out in New England.

 

[JMSqb11]

I think that's just the tip of the iceberg. But honestly it's very weird that instead of being at home working to make the Titans better he's out hanging out in New England.

Lol. The guy was getting honored at a home game of the franchise where he won Super Bowls.....

 

[rocketskates]

Gotta say no.............There is some reason he isn't a HC already. I know he is a terrible interview, and the offense he's headed as OC, has never really been his offense.










And if I hear Arthur Smith's name in the chatter...............I'll explode.

This would be the most Titans thing ever. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s on their radar lol.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Lol. The guy was getting honored at a home game of the franchise where he won Super Bowls.....

That couldn't wait until he retired because??????
Fighting with Ran, fighting tanking, trip to NE, wanting more roster control..... it's just one more thing in a long list of things that makes it look like Vrabel wasn't committed to a bigger vision with the Titans.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

If Levis is their QB of the future, they have to rebuild the O-line to protect him and develop a complimentary run game to see if he is. If Levis turns out not to be the guy, they still need to do it so the next guy has a good shot. Levis would never be my choice to do that, but apparently he is Ran's.

If Levis doesn't work out, they'll likely be rebooting everyone including Ran.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[95 Vol Alum]

I think that's just the tip of the iceberg. But honestly it's very weird that instead of being at home working to make the Titans better he's out hanging out in New England.

It was a Titans bye week, and they beat Atlanta in the next game. Or do I have the timing wrong?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

It was a Titans bye week, and they beat Atlanta in the next game. Or do I have the timing wrong?

It was the bye..... I don't remember who we played after.
Again though it's just a bad look on how committed Vrabel was. How many other times has a player gone back whole playing for another team? It doesn't happen in any league.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

That couldn't wait until he retired because??????
Fighting with Ran, fighting tanking, trip to NE, wanting more roster control..... it's just one more thing in a long list of things that makes it look like Vrabel wasn't committed to a bigger vision with the Titans.

Could be because Robert Kraft will be dead when Vrabel retires.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Could be because Robert Kraft will be dead when Vrabel retires.

Speculation...... not allowed in a court of law.

 

[05_never_again]

Amy getting upset about Vrabel (a former player and notable figure in a dynasty) getting fan fare over New England's Ring of Honor ceremony is hilarious to me

If she's anything like her dad, then she can probably get fairly petty. This is the same person who fired J-Rob after the Eagles game last year. Not that J-Rob didn't deserve to get fired, but the odd timing of it suggests pettiness to me, IMO.

 

[loservol]

TL;dr

It's OK to doubt it. I have been right there with you based on org history. That's why I walked away as a fan with the new OC promotion, the draft and FA signings I saw, which were in line with how dumb things were done so often in the past. I just see a major shift and commitment this time. I have no idea how Ran will do in the future. I know he conducted a good draft overall and had to deal with Vrabel's demands. They apparently got crossways. Vrabs is an industry respected, powerful guy in the org who wanted things done his way. He apparently forgot that had produced crap results the past two seasons including huge numbers of injured players, an incompetent DUI OC, another incompetent OC replacement, a continuing incompetent O-line, etc. Who knows, maybe he pushed it so he would be released.

If Levis is their QB of the future, they have to rebuild the O-line to protect him and develop a complimentary run game to see if he is. If Levis turns out not to be the guy, they still need to do it so the next guy has a good shot. Levis would never be my choice to do that, but apparently he is Ran's. The news about Skoronski moving to where he should have been all along reveals a lot. The run game cannot be heavy ground and pound because it cannot be locked in on play action all of the time. They cannot secure the O-line to do that and DH is at the end of his career. He is unigue, no replacement of his type available. So, continue to do this right and make the change with the roster on O-scheme. Give it all a strong chance of working better than what has been trotted out there.

The controlling owner chose to go the opposite direction. I think that is a major paradigm shift. I believe when Ran was hired she was prepared for this day to happen down the road. The quick decision tells me it was planned and they know who they want as HC. It will be somebody they both trust to change the trajectory toward the goal of a SB. Ran has more respect and goodwill in the industry than people are giving him credit for having.

The easy thing would have been to sit tight with Vrabs, add a few players and staff, put a bandaid on it and soak the fanbase willing to pay for tickets and gear. Basically that is what they did for the past two years. Amy wants more. I like it.

I agree that he should of been fired, but Vrabel was right about the organization needing to hire a president or even a vice president of football operations. The state should have made that one of the requirements moving forward before cutting a $2billion dollar check.

 

[rocketskates]

If she's anything like her dad, then she can probably get fairly petty. This is the same person who fired J-Rob after the Eagles game last year. Not that J-Rob didn't deserve to get fired, but the odd timing of it suggests pettiness to me, IMO.

100%. It was warranted, but the timing was petty. It was basically "we just got spanked by the player that YOU let go so now you're getting the boot".

 

[95 Vol Alum]

Amy (implied yesterday in video): Vrabel was let go as not everyone (him) was collaborating

Ran (yesterday live): Vrabel and I got along great

This organization, lulz.

 

[tvolsfan]

Amy (implied yesterday in video): Vrabel was let go as not everyone (him) was collaborating

Ran (yesterday live): Vrabel and I got along great

This organization, lulz.

These statements are meaningless. Ran wasn't going to come out and say Vrabel's difficult to work with.

 

[loservol]

100%. It was warranted, but the timing was petty. It was basically "we just got spanked by the player that YOU let go so now you're getting the boot".

What I was reading from anotber board makes it sou nd like the league was leaning on her to make a diversty hire, so she used that as an oppurtunity /excuse to fire him and comply with their demands.

 

[rocketskates]

What I was reading from anotber board makes it sou nd like the league was leaning on her to make a diversty hire, so she used that as an oppurtunity /excuse to fire him and comply with their demands.

I wouldn't doubt it. You could be right.

 

[hog88]

This is one of the biggest problems with the Titans. There is not 1 Football guy in the executive leadership and as far as I can tell AAS is filling the role and she is a businesswoman not a football person. Carthon is not experienced enough to be GM and head of football operations. Sure the Adams family has always wanted to win but they don't know how to, the money side of the business has been their biggest concern.

• Burke Nihill President and Chief Executive Officer
• Adolpho Birch III Senior Vice President and Chief External & League Affairs Officer
• Courtney Carini Senior Vice President, Brand Marketing
• Shannon Myers Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
• Adam Nuse Senior Vice President and Chief Revenue Officer
• Daniel Werly Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Offic

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

No they won’t. Whoever hires him will have landed a coach who feasted on one of the worst divisions in football and was, at least in part, responsible for an epic collapse these past two seasons. He made poor assistant coaching hires. He never addressed his S&C issues, and there were clearly issues there given the amount of injuries his teams consistently experienced. Vrabel is average. There are worse coaches than him, but there are plenty of better ones. Will the Titans hire one of those better than him? Probably not. Was the decision to fire Vrabel the right one? Absolutely.

Name the plenty that are better and available

 

[TrueOrange]

*crazy conspiracy theory*
The Titans org probably wanted Vrabel to tank that Jags game.

If the Chargers would have won and the Titans lost to the Jags last Sunday, the Titans would have had the 4th round pick In the draft.

Crazy conspiracy theory would be more:

Amy wanted Vrabel fired ever since December 17th after losing in a way that humiliated her family’s / father’s legacy by doing such in all the old Oilers colors and gear and blowing a lead against the Houston team that eventually replaced them.

(Imagine two years in a row getting ****-talking fans in front of the owners box mocking you: this happening this year and the whole Eagles fans after the AJ Brown trade last year)

 

[05_never_again]

This is one of the biggest problems with the Titans. There is not 1 Football guy in the executive leadership and as far as I can tell AAS is filling the role and she is a businesswoman not a football person. Carthon is not experienced enough to be GM and head of football operations. Sure the Adams family has always wanted to win but they don't know how to, the money side of the business has been their biggest concern.

Amy badly needs a President of Football Ops (or whatever she wanted to call it) who would supervise/work with her GM.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

These statements are meaningless. Ran wasn't going to come out and say Vrabel's difficult to work with.

Yes, meaningless. But contradictory, nonetheless. Not exactly a cohesive collaboration even with Vrabel removed.

 

[hog88]

Amy badly needs a President of Football Ops (or whatever she wanted to call it) who would supervise/work with her GM.

Yes she does. A coach and GM will not always agree and she needs someone with a football background, someone that knows the game to mediate between the 2.

 

[tvolsfan]

Amy badly needs a President of Football Ops (or whatever she wanted to call it) who would supervise/work with her GM.

I'm here as well. Too many moves, while not necessarily the wrong ones, feel knee jerk and without real strategy in mind.