The old ball coach????

#51
#51
BigPapaVol said:
I don't care if you're a complete smartass, you know that it makes 0 sense for a D coordinator to avoid picking Spurrier's brain at every turn and it makes no sense that Spurrier wouldn't force him to at every turn, regardless of the media drivel.

I'll give Stoops a lot of the credit for UFs defenses, but he can't take it all. I think even Stoops would tell you that.
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Man it's the way of the game. Very few coaches have a good grasp of both sides of the ball. You have head coaches that are D minded and some who are O minded. Then you have the SOS of the world who are way above average at Offense. When he turned the play calling over to his son it spoke volumes to me. Calling plays is what made him who he is. On defense he hires guys who are good at it and leaves it to them. I have no problem with that and think it's a good way to manage. But it is what it is.
 
#52
#52
ihateorange4 said:
Spurrier is about as honest as they come in case you havent noticed.
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He is blunt. But if you think he is going to come out and tell you when he is about to retire especially a few years out you are crazy as hell. No coach can or should do that.
 
#53
#53
BigPapaVol said:
I don't care if you're a complete smartass, you know that it makes 0 sense for a D coordinator to avoid picking Spurrier's brain at every turn and it makes no sense that Spurrier wouldn't force him to at every turn, regardless of the media drivel.

I'll give Stoops a lot of the credit for UFs defenses, but he can't take it all. I think even Stoops would tell you that.
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BTW I'm not saying he doesnt talk to his coaches because I now he does. But if you broke his career down to % spent on one side of the ball to the other it would blow your mind.
 
#54
#54
I wouldn't mind Spurrier as coach at UT...Even after all the stuff he's said in the past, Watching him destroy his own school "UF" every year would be priceless...God UF would disown him for that.
 
#55
#55
VolBeef88 said:
He is blunt. But if you think he is going to come out and tell you when he is about to retire especially a few years out you are crazy as hell. No coach can or should do that.
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He didn't say when he would retire he just said he plans on staying 4 or 5 more years and if he says it I will believe it.
 
#56
#56
ihateorange4 said:
What are you trying to say
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I was pointing out to another poster that just because a coach runs up and down the sideline or stands there has nothing to do with the game. It's style. Coach O while at Miss was like a caged Gorilla and see what that got him. That is style only. I know SOS preps before games.
 
#57
#57
VolBeef88 said:
BTW I'm not saying he doesnt talk to his coaches because I now he does. But if you broke his career down to % spent on one side of the ball to the other it would blow your mind.
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back to the original point, it is absurd to suggest that he has O impact on the defensive side of the ball.
 
#61
#61
Look if Spurrier didn't like to recruit, he wouldn't have hauled in the #6 class in the nation in '07. If he had lost his fire he wouldn't have gotten so pissed that he had to call off practice the other day. If you've seen him at a practice he is up yelling and cussing constantly and teaching them too. You also can't expect to take a USC team that was a joke when Lou left to the championship in 3 years especially in the toughest division in football. There's nothing that tells me he has lost his fire.
 
#62
#62
I don't know if it is a loss of fire. I think his expectations are tempered to the athletes that he has.

At the very least I would say that he is frustrated at his inability to find the personnel he was used to. As soon as he has the players (it may never happen) he will regain some of his "competitive juices".
 
#63
#63
ihateorange4 said:
Look if Spurrier didn't like to recruit, he wouldn't have hauled in the #6 class in the nation in '07. If he had lost his fire he wouldn't have gotten so pissed that he had to call off practice the other day. If you've seen him at a practice he is up yelling and cussing constantly and teaching them too. You also can't expect to take a USC team that was a joke when Lou left to the championship in 3 years especially in the toughest division in football. There's nothing that tells me he has lost his fire.
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Spurrier doesn't like to recruit. The #6 class is indicative of the fact that recruits like him more than anything else.
 
#64
#64
...or it could simply be that losing bothers him too much. Maybe his disappointment is miscontrued as a lack of fire.
 
#65
#65
BigPapaVol said:
Spurrier doesn't like to recruit. The #6 class is indicative of the fact that recruits like him more than anything else.
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He left some significant parts of the Florida cupboard rather bare when he left. Offensive line, in particular. Word was he had delegated recruiting for the most part in the last couple of years before the "experiment" in the NFL.
 
#66
#66
Rasputin_Vol said:
Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke... end of thread.
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I'm getting really sick of this logic...

He won a title at Duke almost 20 years ago....what exactly does that have to do with the job he has done at USCe over the past 3 years?

Answer: nothing

So many people on here who are in awe of Spurrier use this as a defense to his coaching greatness....and it has exactly zero to do with what he is doing right now at USCe...

If he turns it around there then I will be completely convinced of his greatness....but as of right now I'm starting to lean towards his legend being as much about the talent he had as it is about his ability
 
#67
#67
blamie said:
I'm getting really sick of this logic...

He won a title at Duke almost 20 years ago....what exactly does that have to do with the job he has done at USCe over the past 3 years?

Answer: nothing

So many people on here who are in awe of Spurrier use this as a defense to his coaching greatness....and it has exactly zero to do with what he is doing right now at USCe...

If he turns it around there then I will be completely convinced of his greatness....but as of right now I'm starting to lean towards his legend being as much about the talent he had as it is about his ability
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He had NO talent at Duke when he got there.
ACC championship a few years later.


He had NO talent at Florida when he got there.
Turned it into a dynasty.

He had NO talent when he got to SC.
Just give him time.
 
#68
#68
blamie said:
If he turns it around there then I will be completely convinced of his greatness....but as of right now I'm starting to lean towards his legend being as much about the talent he had as it is about his ability
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At South Carolina, three non-losing seasons in a row counts as "turning it around."
 
#70
#70
ihateorange4 said:
He had NO talent at Duke when he got there.
ACC championship a few years later.


He had NO talent at Florida when he got there.
Turned it into a dynasty.

He had NO talent when he got to SC.
Just give him time.
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So are you saying that USCe is worse than Duke? I mean he won after a few years at Duke and he's been at USCe a few years and well lets just say he hasnt hoisted anything heavier than 12 OZ on the Golf course.
 
#71
#71
VolBeef88 said:
So are you saying that USCe is worse than Duke? I mean he won after a few years at Duke and he's been at USCe a few years and well lets just say he hasnt hoisted anything heavier than 12 OZ on the Golf course.
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Maybe this is the year, who knows. The team is getting better and deeper every year and no one can deny that.
 
#72
#72
SC has as many bowl wins in Spurrier's tenure as UTK has gained in the same amount of time, so both programs have the same amount of trophy hoisting in the past three years.
 
#73
#73
I know one thing for certain. When I have been to games at Neyland, whenever Spurrier stepped on the field during pre-geame warm ups, I would get kind of a sinking feeling. I have seen the Gators play at Knoxville numerous times and with Spurrier as the head coach. Only once did I leave the field once without a sinking feeling, 98. Myself, I'm starting to think Meyer may be Spurrierizing us sometimes. He has a good track record against us to date.
 
#74
#74
VolunteerHillbilly said:
SC has as many bowl wins in Spurrier's tenure as UTK has gained in the same amount of time, so both programs have the same amount of trophy hoisting in the past three years.
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Your right VHB. USCe has been just as good as us. :crazy:

Don't worry I knew you would take a chance to bash our team on this thread. The only question was how long would it take. Once again you didnt disapoint.
 
#75
#75
BACKDOC said:
Fulmer is a better recruiter than Spurrier. When he was at Fla. he probably didn't put over a 1,000 miles on his car during recruiting season.
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He didnt have to the talent comes to him. As it will in SC give it a yr or two more. I Hate the prick but he is good at what he does
 
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