I love how people make excuses for him. He no longer has the fire. Proof is he isn't even calling his plays this year. Les Miles get's no credit because he is at LSU and many of you on this thread say that anyone could win there because of the talent. Yet the great one gets all the credit in the world for coaching one of if not the most talent laden states.
Is SOS a very good coach and better than Miles? Of course but both won at schools where the states are LOADED with talent. And dont give me the LSU is the only school crap. There is more than enough talent in FL for all the big schools there and many left over. Check UT roster over the years.
I'm guessing you just refuse to recognize the fact that South Carolina is not the easiest place to recruit to...that or you live under a rock. Not taking anything away from Miles, but until he dominates the conference in the same way SOS did, he is no where NEAR even comparable to Spurrier. Deal with it.
Fulmer is a better recruiter than Spurrier. When he was at Fla. he probably didn't put over a 1,000 miles on his car during recruiting season.
Maybe...but Spurrier didn't have to recruit at Florida. When he DID recruit, he would tell the recruits that Florida could win with or without them...and they did.
He had fire then. Now he doesnt. End of thread...
And to compare winning the ACC then and winning in the SEC now is apples to oranges.
Winning the ACC is one thing...winning the ACC with DUKE is a whole different beast. Granted, it wasn't the same ACC with Va. Tech and Florida State, but still...come on man, he won with DUKE. I think you just hate SOS.
It's my opinion, that SOS's defense has made them competative recently...not SOS. He has had NOTHING to do with the improvment of the defense...in fact, he now seems to be doing what he can to tame the defense(refer to canceling practice this week because a LB hit one of his receivers too hard!) SOS, with out the ability to use smoke and mirrors on offense because he can't get enough offensive tallent(no one with NFL aspirations wants to go to SC) has become the OLD ball coach, not the Ole Ball Coach of old.... :cool2:
You do know our defense following the UNC game last year was horrendous, right? And you do know our offense was averaging somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 pts per game prior to that late season break-down, correct? Until the breakdown, SOS didn't really have to worry about the defense. But I'll humor you...first of all, though, get your facts straight. SOS ended practice the other night because Eric Norwood laid a cheap shot on a defenseless Moe Brown and the defense was giggling about it...well, Spurrier didn't like that too much so he ran the piss out of them for the rest of practice. You made it sound like he just called it quits.
I'm with you on this one...
I'm not as eager as some on here to sniff his jock and give him a pass on what he has done (or hasn't done is more like it) at USCe...
He's had plenty of time to change the attitude there, he's had plenty of time to get decent players there and his well is not completely dry (i.e. he has had enough talent to work his magic with)
The man has lost his fire....if something extreme doesn't happen I see him leaving very soon
Well, keep in mind Spurrier is fighting over 100+ years of mediocrity and trying to get kids to come to a school that doesn't know what it means to be succesful.
10-Win seasons: 1
9-Win Seasons: 1
First Bowl: 1990's
Catch my drift?
You are just wrong. Sorry man and I don't mean to be a smart ass. But you look at how his defense looked post Bob Stoops. I will buy that there maybe a few defensive players who will go due to him but not very many. It's not a knock on him he is what he is. An offensive guy and a very, very good one.
The fact still remains that now with 4 years he cant even get a good QB to come play for him and he is even giving up the play calling. He has lost his fire IMO and just waiting to retire and give his son a shot at being a Head coach.
Stoops had good defenses at Florida, yes. But Spurrier still dominated after Stoops left. So I don't really see your point. Also, the fact that he is giving up play-calling has nothing to do with him losing fire. We went 6-6 last year after starting 6-1 and breaking the top 10 for like only the third time in our school's history. He is doing what he thinks is necessary for us to be succesful. I believe I will go with what SOS believes is best rather then your prognostication of him losing his fire.
k: I would not expect anything less from you or any other USCe fan.
And I would not expect anything less from an IGNORANT UT fan (and those are hard to find, UT fans, in my experiences, are the most intelligent football fans I have encountered)...to use hatred to try and justify SOS not being a good coach. Because thats all you are...a hater.
At South Carolina, three non-losing seasons in a row counts as "turning it around."
Again...check our history. We have none. Spurrier has made more progress in the last three years then any other coach we have ever had.
I'm getting really sick of this logic...
He won a title at Duke almost 20 years ago....what exactly does that have to do with the job he has done at USCe over the past 3 years?
Answer: nothing
So many people on here who are in awe of Spurrier use this as a defense to his coaching greatness....and it has exactly zero to do with what he is doing right now at USCe...
If he turns it around there then I will be completely convinced of his greatness....but as of right now I'm starting to lean towards his legend being as much about the talent he had as it is about his ability
He took Duke (the Vandy of the ACC, mind you) and won the conference with them. You, like beef, are a hater.
He took Florida from the brink of prohbation to being the most scary team in America.
I don't know that he will ever even win the division with us. But I admire him for trying.
Your right VHB. USCe has been just as good as us. :crazy:
Don't worry I knew you would take a chance to bash our team on this thread. The only question was how long would it take. Once again you didnt disapoint.
I was wrong...you are a more then a hater...you are a homer. Now it makes sense...
Good post. I don't think Spurrier has completely lost it but the gap between him and the rest of the SEC coaches has closed significantly. I still wouldn't want that cocky jerk coaching UT. How could you guys accept him after all he has said to disrespect his home state and team? I don't care if it got us an NC every year I wouldn't want him as the coach. I would take Tommy Turbeville, Phil Fulmer or Mark Richt over Spurrier. Heck even Croom. Surround any of those guys with the right OC and DC and with their recruiting abilities they will bring you a NC just as easily as Spurrier and they will do it with class.
Spurrier and CPF have one...Richt has 0...Tubbs has 0...and Croom...:birgits_giggle:...you are too funny.
Spurrier should have went back to UF when he had the chance.
He did and he told Foley to go look in the damn trophy case when he had the gaw to ask for a resume.
I admire SOS for taking on the challenge of guiding the Gamecocks to some sort of sunlight.