The Presidential Election Was Legitimate. Conspiracies Are Not.

[Vol Main]

Blah, blah blah. There's also a good reason why democrats want more of it(mail ballots)... Blah, blah blah

What reason could there be?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Lol. Yeah it had nothing at all to do with fraud.

You have to be registered to vote, right,?

So any vote from an unregistered voter would be fraud, right?

Anything more than 100% is fraud. Normal runs about 65% to 80% ....

So what is this bullsheit?

 

[TennesseeTopHat]

Lol. Yeah it had nothing at all to do with fraud.

You have to be registered to vote, right,?

So any vote from an unregistered voter would be fraud, right?

Anything more than 100% is fraud. Normal runs about 65% to 80% ....

So what is this bullsheit?

I’m glad you’re on the case. Have you submitted this to the trump legal team yet? With evidence as clear as this I’m surprised it hasn’t been entered into court already

 

[Vol Main]

Lol. Yeah it had nothing at all to do with fraud.

You have to be registered to vote, right,?

So any vote from an unregistered voter would be fraud, right?

Anything more than 100% is fraud. Normal runs about 65% to 80% ....

So what is this bullsheit?

Actually, this problem is caused by failures to remove names of registered voters when they relocate, and it is common in both red and blue counties. That is not evidence of voter fraud, which would mean double voting. It is evidence that lists for registered voters are not being kept up to date when voters move somewhere else. It now seems to be a crime to vote by mail in Tennessee if you are registered in another state. When I spoke to the Electoral Commission in my previous state of residence to request that my name be removed from his list, the guy told me not to worry about it, that my name would be removed from the list of registered voters if I did not vote, that is from inactivity. I told him I needed it removed to vote here, because voting while registered to vote in another state was made a crime. So he told me how to do it. I downloaded the form from that county's web site, printed it, filled it out, signed it, photographed it with my cell phone, and emailed the picture to the Electoral Commission in my previous state of residence. There are millions of people relocating every year. That does not mean that there are millions of cases of voter fraud. You can act like it is a big Democratic conspiracy, but it is just a clerical problem common in both Democratic and Republican counties around the country, caused by people relocating without removing their names from the list of registered voters.

 

[82_VOL_83]

FIFY

Nah, I would have spell checked. Typical all you got is making **** up and putting someone else's name on it.

 

[RockyTop85]

Nah, I would have spell checked. Typical all you got is making **** up and putting someone else's name on it.

Says the guy parroting fake claims of mass fraud.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Here in the Outer Banks, no physical ID was requested when I voted.

Just provide name and address. Nothing else.

Also, we allow dogs in our Home Depot.

If you bring your dog out shopping with you, you are the problem with society.

 

[NashVol11]

It is a system that can work if done correctly. To counter your article there's a piece from the NYTs in 2012 I believe where they discuss why mail voting is more prone to fraud.

It is more prone to fraud than in person voting.

A state that has been doing it for years is different than states who tried to adopt it less than 6 months before an election and we are seeing the results of that last minute change in rules.

I'm not making any claim that there was sufficient fraud to sway the election or that any Trump lawsuit has merit.

I am pointing out that mail in voting (particularly where unsolicited ballots are mailed to anyone on the voter rolls) is more prone to fraud than other methods we use and we ought to work to get it right rather than pretend it isn't the case.

Well yes, considering that in general there were 32 documented cases of fraud in one billion votes cast in 2000-2014, 14 out of 15.5 million does make mail-in voting “more prone to fraud,” but that’s not saying much

 

[NashVol11]

But you said Trump was not legitimate, you fools made up a bunch of lies about him and even tried to impeach him. Oh you hypocrites.

No one was saying Hillary actually won the Electoral College

 

[NashVol11]

I'd just like to ask the anti-"voter fraud" crowd one question... do you honestly think a party that spent the last 3 years and millions of dollars trying to impeach Trump would leave this election up to chance?

No, they’d rig it to win the Presidency and just not care about Congress

 

[FLVOL_79]

Strange no one seems concerned about the election meddling from China, Iran, and Russia, especially considering in the memes thread there are actual pro democrat posts utilizing media created from these countries. Strange I tell ya, strange....

Guess those Macedonian content farmers took this election cycle off.

 

[Weezer]

No, they’d rig it to win the Presidency and just not care about Congress

I don't believe the election was rigged, but why is this implausible? You're arguing from the point of the left wanting to take control, but what if the goal were just to get rid of Trump and return to status quo?

 

[NashVol11]

I don't believe the election was rigged, but why is this implausible? You're arguing from the point of the left wanting to take control, but what if the goal were just to get rid of Trump and return to status quo?

It doesn’t make sense for any “goal” not to include the Senate and Mitch McConnell

 

[82_VOL_83]

Says the guy parroting fake claims of mass fraud.

Funny when all we heard from you socialist progressives was orange man bad, it was lauded most excellent original, ground breaking socially important thought even though that was the single talking point that you could remember. Now I make my own mind up about the fallacies of mass mail voting and I'm parroting? You guys need to come up with a new shtick. You are so predictable and pitiful.

 

[82_VOL_83]

It doesn’t make sense for any “goal” not to include the Senate and Mitch McConnell

You didn't have a chance with McConnell. You haven't imported enough refugees into Louisville and Lexington yet. The ones that get sent to the redneck areas become gainfully employed and understand that voting for a lying POS she-man just wasn't the right thing to do if they want to keep those jobs.

 

[Weezer]

It doesn’t make sense for any “goal” not to include the Senate and Mitch McConnell

Sure it does. Like it or not, moderate Dems benefit from a GOP controlled Senate. They have the perfect excuse for not accomplishing the "progressive" agenda of the far left. Change is something best brought about slowly, but the progressive wing wants to institute mass change quickly. That's a good way to alienate many Americans and totally screw yourself in the next election. The main goal of the left for this particular election was oust Trump. It was never about taking complete control IMO. Complete control leaves you no one to blame for your failures. Individuals may be disappointed, but I'd say those in the upper party hierarchy are perfectly okay with a split Congress. It allows them to blame a GOP controlled Senate rather than admit failures. That's how politics in this country work.

 

[theFallGuy]

Anger is eating you up. Accept the result and move on.

you didn't refute a single point he made

 

[RockyTop85]

Funny when all we heard from you socialist progressives was orange man bad, it was lauded most excellent original, ground breaking socially important thought even though that was the single talking point that you could remember. Now I make my own mind up about the fallacies of mass mail voting and I'm parroting? You guys need to come up with a new shtick. You are so predictable and pitiful.

No, I assume you’re parroting because I pointed out that this election took place by the constitutional and legislative processes that were agreed upon at the founding and have been sufficient for the 231 years since and you weren’t able to come up with any better reply than “yawn” and “rabble rabble socialist progressive rabble rabble.”

If you’re not parroting, then.... bless your heart.

 

[82_VOL_83]

No, I assume you’re parroting because I pointed out that this election took place by the constitutional and legislative processes that were agreed upon at the founding and have been sufficient for the 231 years since and you weren’t able to come up with any better reply than “yawn” and “rabble rabble socialist progressive rabble rabble.”

If you’re not parroting, then.... bless your heart.

Boy everything is constitutional, legal and what the founders wanted now that the scary orange man is gone. Typical. And you wonder why we stereotype you so often, you fit so well. Your BS is literally a script. Have an original thought for once in your pitiful life.

 

[Serene]

Lol. Yeah it had nothing at all to do with fraud.

You have to be registered to vote, right,?

So any vote from an unregistered voter would be fraud, right?

Anything more than 100% is fraud. Normal runs about 65% to 80% ....

So what is this bullsheit?

The numbers of registered voters in that chart are based off of registered voters in 2018. If you go to the url that's referenced in that chart, you can look at the 2020 registered voter numbers and see that, in each case, the actual number of registered voters in higher than the number of votes. Now, to be fair, that info was not updated on worldpopulationreview.com until November 4, so it was incorrect on election day (and more importantly, the 2018 data was presented on the website as data from 2020). However, if you actually clicked on the link that showed the source of the previous data, you would see that it was sourced from November 2018 election statistics. Keep in mind, worldpopulationreview.com is not a government website; it is entirely private. Now, the analysis from RCP could theoretically be an honest mistake, but even then it's just plain negligent to claim election fraud in this manner by using outdated data from nonofficial sources without doing the most cursory of research to make sure your information is actually correct.

 

[Vol Main]

Funny when all we heard from you socialist progressives was orange man bad, it was lauded most excellent original, ground breaking socially important thought even though that was the single talking point that you could remember. Now I make my own mind up about the fallacies of mass mail voting and I'm parroting? You guys need to come up with a new shtick. You are so predictable and pitiful.

There are many, many, many compelling reasons for saying orange man bad. You talk like there is something wrong with people who react correctly to the terrible things he has done. No! There is something wrong with people who do not.

 

[Weezer]

There are many, many, many compelling reasons for saying orange man bad. You talk like there is something wrong with people who react correctly to the terrible things he has done. No! There is something wrong with people who do not.

There's something wrong with people who don't look at Biden with the same critical eye, especially those who refuse based solely on politics. Trump was/is bad, that doesn't automatically make Biden good. For some odd reason, some people seem to be under the belief it does.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

but I think the difference between “urban” and “rural” in a majority of America isn’t as stark as some here want to make it.

Well that obviously isn't the case just based on voting patterns and taxes and govt services provided.

Are you really not seeing a significant difference in people's view of the role of government in their daily life?

 

[Vol Main]

The numbers of registered voters in that chart are based off of registered voters in 2018. If you go to the url that's referenced in that chart, you can look at the 2020 registered voter numbers and see that, in each case, the actual number of registered voters in higher than the number of votes. Now, to be fair, that info was not updated on worldpopulationreview.com until November 4, so it was incorrect on election day (and more importantly, the 2018 data was presented on the website as data from 2020). However, if you actually clicked on the link that showed the source of the previous data, you would see that it was sourced from November 2018 election statistics. Keep in mind, worldpopulationreview.com is not a government website; it is entirely private. Now, the analysis from RCP could theoretically be an honest mistake, but even then it's just plain negligent to claim election fraud in this manner by using outdated data from nonofficial sources without doing the most cursory of research to make sure your information is actually correct.

Still, the fact that lists of registered voters include names which should no longer be on them is not evidence of voter fraud. It is evidence that people who move from one state to another have so many things to do that they tend to neglect removing their names.

 

[Vol Main]

There's something wrong with people who don't look at Biden with the same critical eye, especially those who refuse based solely on politics. Trump was/is bad, that doesn't automatically make Biden good. For some odd reason, some people seem to be under the belief it does.

I believe that looking at both with the same standard shows Biden to be a much better person than Trump. By any honest and reasonable measure of human decency, Biden is a good man. Trump is not.