The Presidential Election Was Legitimate. Conspiracies Are Not.

I believe that looking at both with the same standard shows Biden to be a much better person than Trump. By any honest and reasonable measure of human decency, Biden is a good man. Trump is not.
I don't find your measure reasonable. I'm perfectly willing to admit Trump is not a good person. That doesn't make Biden a good person. This isn't an argument of who you think the better person is. Two bad people are still two bad people. And I'd be careful using the word "honest" when talking about a plagiarist.
 
I believe that looking at both with the same standard shows Biden to be a much better person than Trump. By any honest and reasonable measure of human decency, Biden is a good man. Trump is not.
I’m sure Biden has his foibles, all of us do. But there is absolutely no question that he is a better man that Trump. I would submit that Trump is one of the worst people walking the planet so it wouldn’t take much to be better than him. That is a low, low bar. Too many negatives in Trump’s character, ethics and morals to list. Those have been discussed ad nauseum and are not debatable.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch. Trump and his spawn are reaching the end of the line on their delay tactics. Arizona has been called so it doesn’t even matter about Georgia or Pennsylvania. And I’m pretty sure those will be in the Biden column too when it’s over. More law firms quitting the fraud effort this morning and more Republicans in Congress are finally growing some backbone. Trump’s delays in allowing security briefings are a serious issue. No President in this position has ever denied them and this should be evidence to everybody that he doesn’t give one 💩 about this country. He only cares about advancing TRUMP. But I’m sure his supporters will figure out some excuse to justify it in their feeble brains. I would call it pathetic but that word doesn’t do it justice. Never seen a worse excuse for a man and I hope I never do.
 
I’m sure Biden has his foibles, all of us do. But there is absolutely no question that he is a better man that Trump. I would submit that Trump is one of the worst people walking the planet so it wouldn’t take much to be better than him. That is a low, low bar. Too many negatives in Trump’s character, ethics and morals to list. Those have been discussed ad nauseum and are not debatable.
Biden lied about the death of his wife and child to get elected and ruined a man's life in the process. He then ruined a marriage to get his second wife. Those aren't simply foibles, they speak to character. Foibles would be blatant plagiarism or nearly getting kicked out of school for cheating. That didn't even get into his pay for access scam

They're both trash
 
Well that obviously isn't the case just based on voting patterns and taxes and govt services provided.

Are you really not seeing a significant difference in people's view of the role of government in their daily life?
You’re pointing out causation which is a different conversation than voter ratios. How many counties/parishes nation-wide have less than 30% of the population that votes democrat or republican? Find that answer and you’ll find my point.
 
I’m sure Biden has his foibles, all of us do. But there is absolutely no question that he is a better man that Trump. I would submit that Trump is one of the worst people walking the planet so it wouldn’t take much to be better than him. That is a low, low bar. Too many negatives in Trump’s character, ethics and morals to list. Those have been discussed ad nauseum and are not debatable.

It took more than what Hillary could pull off .. you ummm , you didn’t vote for her did you ? I mean if she couldn’t beat the worst human walking the earth ..
 
IDK about odds, I'm just saying it's plausible and shouldn't immediately be dismissed. IDK enough about it to say a few hacktivists couldn't pull this off. Let's see the evidence. If there isn't any, throw it out.
The voting software in Michigan seems pretty concerning. I don’t know how much verifiable fire there is but there is some smoke.
 
Biden lied about the death of his wife and child to get elected and ruined a man's life in the process. He then ruined a marriage to get his second wife. Those aren't simply foibles, they speak to character. Foibles would be blatant plagiarism or nearly getting kicked out of school for cheating. That didn't even get into his pay for access scam

They're both trash
It was a lie that his wife and two children died tragic deaths? Dang, he is a magician to be able to do that and get elected President.
 
Biden lied about the death of his wife and child to get elected and ruined a man's life in the process. He then ruined a marriage to get his second wife. Those aren't simply foibles, they speak to character. Foibles would be blatant plagiarism or nearly getting kicked out of school for cheating. That didn't even get into his pay for access scam

They're both trash
Wait, what?? No way. Next you’re gonna tell me that Biden skipped out on the draft claiming chronic bone spurs.
 
It was a lie that his wife and two children died tragic deaths? Dang, he is a magician to be able to do that and get elected President.

The lie was and has always been that Biden claimed his wife died from being hit by a drunk driver. The other driver was not drunk and it was his wife’s fault. He used that story to gain sympathy from voters and in turn ruined another man’s life. If you think that shows character, you are delusional
 
It took more than what Hillary could pull off .. you ummm , you didn’t vote for her did you ? I mean if she couldn’t beat the worst human walking the earth ..
Nope. I haven’t pulled the lever for President in either of the last two elections. Not one of them deserved or earned my vote. I just have major issues with Trump’s character, morality and personality and always have. First time in my 48 years of eligibility that I haven’t voted for the Republican candidate. Hopefully the party can get back to what it once was and I can do it again. Right now, it doesn’t bear a resemblance to Ronald Reagan’s party.
 
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The lie was and has always been that Biden claimed his wife died from being hit by a drunk driver. The other driver was not drunk and it was his wife’s fault. He used that story to gain sympathy from voters and in turn ruined another man’s life. If you think that shows character, you are delusional
Evidently 75 million people either don’t believe you or didn’t care.
 
Nope. I haven’t pulled the lever for President in either of the last two elections. Not one of them deserved or earned my vote. I just have major issues with Trump’s character, morality and personality and always have. First time in my 48 years of eligibility that I haven’t voted for the Republican candidate. Hopefully the party can get back to what it once was and I can do it again. Right now, it doesn’t bear a resemblance to Ronald Reagan’s party.
Same here on the voting republican history. Unfortunately many of these trumpers don’t even realize he’s hijacked the Republican Party for his own sake. If some true republicans don’t step up soon and kick him to the curb, they may permanently ruin the party.
 
No. He claimed asthma for his deferments, but it didn't stop him from being a lifeguard or playing football in high school.
Awesome. Next you’re gonna tell me that he made fun of American POWS that served in the very war he dodged.
 
You're talking about a specific conspiracy that I guess has been debunked. I'm saying that I wouldn't dismiss all election conspiracy accusations. It depends on the conspiracy. If it's a vast conspiracy, I'm out. If it's not, it's plausible. Here I am repeating myself, but sometimes people get it the 2nd time ; )
This type of fraud seems most plausible
 
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McCain started the altercation with Trump.
Haha. Of course he did. And any president that had any dignity at all would’ve said he only liked soldiers that didn’t get caught.

And you guys wonder why the DOD don’t like him and how troops didn’t vote for him in droves. Smdh
 
I believe that looking at both with the same standard shows Biden to be a much better person than Trump. By any honest and reasonable measure of human decency, Biden is a good man. Trump is not.
You are full of ****. Not because Trump is good.
 
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Biden lied about the death of his wife and child to get elected and ruined a man's life in the process. He then ruined a marriage to get his second wife. Those aren't simply foibles, they speak to character. Foibles would be blatant plagiarism or nearly getting kicked out of school for cheating. That didn't even get into his pay for access scam

They're both trash
The left makes this about Trump vs Biden as people. For the right it was about maintaining the economic status quo. For the left it was orange man bad. Now stuck with Biden and the racist they are scrambling to defend based on who's the better person. Deflection is strong on the left side of the aisle. I have never said Trump was a good person, ever. He's a POS that I would never care for in personal life. As a politician he hasn't hurt me or the country and thats all I care about.
 
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Haha. Of course he did. And any president that had any dignity at all would’ve said he only liked soldiers that didn’t get caught.

And you guys wonder why the DOD don’t like him and how troops didn’t vote for him in droves. Smdh
McCain criticized Trump and his supporters very early in the campaign in 2015 by saying that they didn't need those crazies in Arizona. Then, he played an instrumental role in leaking the Steele Dossier against Trump. I'm sorry I voted for that sorry piece of sh!t McCain.
 

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