The Problems with Trans-ideology

[NashVol11]

Can you show a single time anyone has claimed trans people steal the womanhood from actual women?

Or are you just beating strawmen for the sake of it?

…her entire point has been that trans women pose this grave threat to womanhood

Because female to male trans don’t do these things. You don’t see them trying to fundamentally change “manhood”.

I have seen trans women do alllll these things to attempt to change (and actually quite successfully) change what it means to be a woman.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

“I never said boys should beat up GIRLS, I said boys should beat up TRANS PEOPLE” lmfao okay, it’s funny that you thought this was a smart rebuttal

Nah I actually never said that either. Your reading comprehension is just as good as the rest of your communication skills...deficient. Done wasting time on your ignorant nonsense. Nobody cares that you like dressing up like an ugly woman instead of an ugly man.

 

[NashVol11]

Nah I actually never said that either. Your reading comprehension is just as good as the rest of your communication skills...deficient. Done wasting time on your ignorant nonsense. Nobody cares that you like dressing up like an ugly woman instead of an ugly man.

Good. If you’re done, then keep your 20 IQ thoughts to yourself rather than mentioning me in some passive aggressive post every single day like a little b!tch. Thanks and good talk

 

[utvolpj]

Nah I actually never said that either. Your reading comprehension is just as good as the rest of your communication skills...deficient. Done wasting time on your ignorant nonsense. Nobody cares that you like dressing up like an ugly woman instead of an ugly man.

Know why dudes who were scared to compete in sports with their actual peers didn't try to compete in the girls versions of those sports in the 90s when I played sports? Because they would have been ridiculed endlessly and got their azzes whipped by guys like me who wouldn't have put up with a boy bullying a bunch of girls. Thats why.


These boys need their azzes beat.

The quoted part above shows you did say it. Why not own your stance?

 

[Vol8188]

…her entire point has been that trans women pose this grave threat to womanhood

In no way did either of those imply that her personal womanhood was being stolen.

 

[creekdipper]

Yes, it is.

Perhaps you could cite some actual statistics to support your assertion.

 

[85SugarVol]

Perhaps you could cite some actual statistics to support your assertion.

You’re not interested.

Go find the Gay Whales thread

 

[creekdipper]

I'm sure homosexuals feel pity for your ignorance.

Difference is, your "pity" is a choice, and a sad one at that.

"Ignorance?"

Ignorance of what? Tell me something about homosexuality that I don't know. It's not a complicated subject.

 

[NashVol11]

The quoted part above shows you did say it. Why not own your stance?

 

[creekdipper]

You’re not interested.

Go find the Gay Whales thread

Or maybe the gay penguin couple in captivity that converted back to heterosexuality when presented with that option.

 

[85SugarVol]

Not convinced it’s very prevalent. But even if so, that’s not an argument in favor of homosexuality. Rape and murder are prevalent in the natural world too. Natural should never be the standard

Arguments in favor or against are matters of opinion. It’s subjective.

He was trying to imply it was weird or unnatural, which is objectively false. It is observed throughout the natural world.

 

[85SugarVol]

Or maybe the gay penguin couple in captivity that converted back to heterosexuality when presented with that option.

Rack up another Win for Gay penguin conversion therapy!

 

[Vol8188]

Arguments in favor or against are matters of opinion. It’s subjective.

He was trying to imply it was weird or unnatural, which is objectively false. It is observed throughout the natural world.

weird would also be an opinion more so than something you could claim to be objectively false. Given it’s rare, it would seem to fit the definition of weird

 

[85SugarVol]

weird would also be an opinion more so than something you could claim to be objectively false. Given it’s rare, it would seem to fit the definition of weird

It’s not the norm. Neither is it in Homo Sapiens.

But it’s certainly not unnatural.

 

[Vol8188]

It’s not the norm. Neither is it in Homo Sapiens.

But it’s certainly not unnatural.

Sure, but you are the one who brought up natural vs unnatural. Seems you’re joining Nash in defeating strawmen.

 

[gcbvol]

It’s not the norm. Neither is it in Homo Sapiens.

But it’s certainly not unnatural.

It has been around forever and will persist as long as the species survive. It must serve some evolutionary purpose.

 

[85SugarVol]

Sure, but you are the one who brought up natural vs unnatural. Seems you’re joining Nash in defeating strawmen.

“Unnatural” has long been the standard charge against homosexuality.

Weird and Creepy is but a proxy.

But yes, homosexual activity in the greater animal kingdom is not the norm. If you want to classify that as “weird” then that is your prerogative.

 

[85SugarVol]

It has been around forever and will persist as long as the species survive. It must serve some evolutionary purpose.

It is present in multiple species that have populated the Earth for 10’s of millions of years.

I don’t want to try and label it - so I won’t.

But I am more and more convinced that a portion of it lay somewhere in the 98% of the genome that is “empty, useless code” - we just can’t read it today.

 

[Vol8188]

It has been around forever and will persist as long as the species survive. It must serve some evolutionary purpose.

I’d be curious to know if you have any specific ideas as to what that purpose would be?

Population control?
Promotion of greater male unity within a species as opposed to the typical male fighting?
Something else?

 

[gcbvol]

I’d be curious to know if you have any specific ideas as to what that purpose would be?

Population control?
Promotion of greater male unity within a species as opposed to the typical male fighting?
Something else?

Those two you mention have been theorized and make sense to me. I've always thought it might be some sort of natural population control, but the less competition/male unity theory is intriguing. Could be a combination.

 

[creekdipper]

It’s not the norm. Neither is it in Homo Sapiens.

But it’s certainly not unnatural.

The poster said "prevalent," which means "widespread" (as in common). That is untrue. Moving the goalposts to "has been observed" is being disingenuous. All sorts of human and animal behavior has "been observed" (pretty much anything that is possible to occur).

That does not make the behavior "prevalent." The fact is that even researchers who have observed the behavior have concluded that homosexual predispositions are a rarity. It's like Kinsey's flawed "research" that concluded that ten percent of the population is homosexual...a fallacy that was accepted and repeated for years. The problem was that Kinsey was relying upon information obtained from prisoners without heterosexual options.

Researchers have also suggested that some homosexual behavior observed in animal social groups was likely a social method used to assert dominance (or, conversely, to instill bonding). As far as individual homosexual encounters go, anyone who has been around dogs very long has probably witnessed them humping human legs or even inanimate objects. Doesn't mean that dogs have some deep sexual attraction to human legs.

As for being "natural," that's a semantical canard. Any incident that has ever been observed even once is technically "natural" since it happened in nature.

 

[Vol8188]

Those two you mention have been theorized and make sense to me. I've always thought it might be some sort of natural population control, but the less competition/male unity theory is intriguing. Could be a combination.

Worked for the Spartans

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Good. If you’re done, then keep your 20 IQ thoughts to yourself rather than mentioning me in some passive aggressive post every single day like a little b!tch. Thanks and good talk

No b!tch nowhere in me sport. You're the one that likes to dress up like a girl.

The quoted part above shows you did say it. Why not own your stance?

I just saw the bolded part at the end. I very nearly did say that, didnt I? Oh well. I have mixed feelings about this honestly. Boys have no business whatsoever competing against girls...I don't care if they are impersonating girls or not. They should have enough honesty and self respect to prevent themselves from doing so. Apparently quite a few do not though, so something must be done to police girls athletics. The adults in charge of these events are not doing their jobs.

 

[creekdipper]

Arguments in favor or against are matters of opinion. It’s subjective.

He was trying to imply it was weird or unnatural, which is objectively false. It is observed throughout the natural world.

The "observed throughout the natural world" has nothing to do with being weird or creepy. Name one thing that you find weird or creepy, and I guarantee that it's "found in the natural world."

(Unless you just sit around imagining bizarre scenarios with no known recorded instances or some futuristic/horror/mutant fiction, which is not the topic).

Yes, "weird' and "creepy" are subjective terms which can be applied to anything. So?

 

[utvolpj]

No you don't get to put words in my mouth either PJ. A person either says something or they dont. I clearly did not. Also wasnt talking to you. For the 5th time. Go bother someone else. Dont care if you're a mod.

So you literally posted these words below but claim they don't actually mean you would beat someone up or approve of it being done? That's your hill?

What do these words truly mean then?

got their azzes whipped by guys like me who wouldn't have put up with a boy bullying a bunch of girls.

These boys need their azzes beat.