The Problems with Trans-ideology

[DinkinFlicka]

Help me out here. I have to be misunderstanding. Are you claiming minorities do not have the ability change jobs or to leave relationships?

What am I missing here

Social minority (in the context of this thread, the LGBTQ community).

People like Louder, myself, and you exist in a world of privilege. A trans person does not.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Isn't it much easier to be a straight white female in this society?

What benefits do straight white males get?

I need to sign up for them.

Easier than what? Being a man?

Surely, you jest.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Help me out here. I have to be misunderstanding. Are you claiming minorities do not have the ability change jobs or to leave relationships?

What am I missing here

Yeah, remember; to the left, minorities aren’t intelligent enough to get an ID, operate a computer, or speak basic English. Why without the guiding hand of superior white women they would starve or be unable to function. That is why The Karen’s keep them on the democrat plantation. It’s for their own good don’t you know

 

[OrangeTsar]

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Social minority (in the context of this thread, the LGBTQ community).

People like Louder, myself, and you exist in a world of privilege. A trans person does not.

A trans person went overnight from something like the 217th best MALE swimmer to the number 1 FEMALE swimmer. Sounds like quite the privilege to me.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

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A trans person went overnight from something like the 217th best MALE swimmer to the number 1 FEMALE swimmer. Sounds like quite the privilege to me.

I'm sorry about the hardships you face.

 

[LouderVol]

Being a straight white male in the places you mentioned is almost always easy street.

Recognizing your privilege in lieu of complaining about the people you date or the place you work is what I'm getting at. You can get another job. You can get out of that relationship. Minority classes have little choice in how they exist.

so its just more of the no-true-scotsman. unless you are a certain class you need to sit in the corner and shut up while others are talking. its more of the same, no real desire to improve, diversity without inclusion.

everyone has a choice about how you live your lives. sure others face more adversity, never disputed that, just saying its something some of us have a concept of. flat out rejection doesn't move the conversation forward or help anyone. if you want a solution that works for the widest swathe of people you need to include the widest swathe of people. otherwise you have the same problem just in a different location, and history repeats itself.

if people want a safe place to just yell at those who are different from them, I am not going to try and dig them out. but I also don't want to hear them complain that there are no solutions when they desperately hold to that mindset and express the very hate they claim to want changed.

 

[hog88]

Easier than what? Being a man?

Surely, you jest.

Good looking women have it pretty easy unless they are just plain dumb.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

so its just more of the no-true-scotsman. unless you are a certain class you need to sit in the corner and shut up while others are talking. its more of the same, no real desire to improve, diversity without inclusion.

everyone has a choice about how you live your lives. sure others face more adversity, never disputed that, just saying its something some of us have a concept of. flat out rejection doesn't move the conversation forward or help anyone. if you want a solution that works for the widest swathe of people you need to include the widest swathe of people. otherwise you have the same problem just in a different location, and history repeats itself.

if people want a safe place to just yell at those who are different from them, I am not going to try and dig them out. but I also don't want to hear them complain that there are no solutions when they desperately hold to that mindset and express the very hate they claim to want changed.

Saying you're familiar with the kind of adversity faced by a marginalized group is disingenuous. I don't disagree with the rest of what you said.

 

[utvolpj]

Off-the-charts lack of self-awareness here. Trans people constantly get doxxed by LOTT and get bomb threats for holding jobs as teachers, Rachel Levine holds a job as assistant HHS which normally no one cares about and she gets constant flack for holding that job as well

Who was doxxed for simply being a teacher? That seems like pretty boring content. Now, if it was a teacher that identified as a mythical garden gnome who was bragging about their entire 1st grade class coming out as non-binary then that may be a bigger issue.

Lott posts plenty of lies and trash. However it's hard to take issue with reposting crazy things from accounts that aren't private. Those accounts want all that positive attention until they come gave to face with the reality that most don't agree with their actions

 

[OrangeTsar]

I'm sorry about the hardships you face.

What do you mean? I don’t compete is NCAA swimming competitions. Do you?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Good looking women have it pretty easy unless they are just plain dumb.

Signed,

Hog88, who thinks the women's suffrage movement was a bad move.

 

[KB5252]

Easier than what? Being a man?

Surely, you jest.

Well yeah. Statistics would seem to back it up. Higher rate higher education, work fewer hours on average than men. There are certainly many other quantifiable examples.

Maybe we should make a positive/negative chart?

 

[OrangeTsar]

For about the first 48 hours after Trump was declared the winner, I feared that the left might actually learn something and maybe quit throwing away normal people’s votes by laying off the Trans dogma. It is a relief to see that this will continue to be the litmus test hill to die on for the foreseeable future.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Good looking women have it pretty easy unless they are just plain dumb.

I would never wish to step into the life of a biological female. The very thought of labor and giving birth gives me the cold sweats. Anyone who can go through that is many times braver than me.

 

[LouderVol]

Saying you're familiar with the kind of adversity faced by a marginalized group is disingenuous. I don't disagree with the rest of what you said.

because the source of the adversity was different I can't be familiar with hate, exclusion, or rejection?

that line of thinking is more divisive than helpful. I don't have to walk 2 miles in their shoes to appreciate that they are forced to wear uncomfortable shoes, or want to help them find more comfortable shoes.

it also just boils people down to their group instead of recognizing individualism, its more of the same division they claim to want to end.

 

[hog88]

Signed,

Hog88, who thinks the women's suffrage movement was a bad move.

Facts prove it.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Facts prove it.

Sure thing, bud.

 

[KB5252]

I would never wish to step into the life of a biological female. The very thought of labor and giving birth gives me the cold sweats. Anyone who can go through that is many times braver than me.

You would still have the choice as a female in whether to conceive or not.

 

[Cod]

And ya'll wonder why there is pushback.....

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You would still have the choice as a female in whether to conceive or not.

is that so?

 

[GVF]

so its just more of the no-true-scotsman. unless you are a certain class you need to sit in the corner and shut up while others are talking. its more of the same, no real desire to improve, diversity without inclusion.

everyone has a choice about how you live your lives. sure others face more adversity, never disputed that, just saying its something some of us have a concept of. flat out rejection doesn't move the conversation forward or help anyone. if you want a solution that works for the widest swathe of people you need to include the widest swathe of people. otherwise you have the same problem just in a different location, and history repeats itself.

if people want a safe place to just yell at those who are different from them, I am not going to try and dig them out. but I also don't want to hear them complain that there are no solutions when they desperately hold to that mindset and express the very hate they claim to want changed.

Choices without consequences is what people want.

 

[whodeycin85]

Help me out here. I have to be misunderstanding. Are you claiming minorities do not have the ability change jobs or to leave relationships?

What am I missing here

Apparently we had white heter males choose to be in those..but trans people are a minority even though the literally choose to be trans...like the lady that choose to blind herself to be trans disabled..she is not a minority she's a mentally ill person.

 

[C-south]

Saying you're familiar with the kind of adversity faced by a marginalized group is disingenuous. I don't disagree with the rest of what you said.

Yet you carry water for nothing you know. Are you saying you’re a “marginalized group”?

 

[VOLS INC.]

And ya'll wonder why there is pushback.....

She’s so brave!

 

[KB5252]

is that so?

Of course