The Scotty Hopson thread (merged)

#76
#76
VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
We're just stating this is what he has done since he has been here, play good then play like this. What if he goes in a stretch like this for 5 or 6 games, like he has in years past.
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thank you for proving my point. if he DOES go in a stretch like this for 5 or 6 games, THEN i will eat my crow. This was ONE off night like i have said numerous times already.

And as far as him playing good in the past, i dont remember him ever winning mvp of the early season tourny we are in or dropping 27 in a win against a top 5 team. hate all you want, he will bounce back.
 
#77
#77
Indianavol4eva said:
thank you for proving my point. if he DOES go in a stretch like this for 5 or 6 games, THEN i will eat my crow. This was ONE off night like i have said numerous times already.

And as far as him playing good in the past, i dont remember him ever winning mvp of the early season tourny we are in or dropping 27 in a win against a top 5 team. hate all you want, he will bounce back.
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Don't get me wrong, I hope i am wrong. I'm just saying he has done this on numerous occassions in the past.

And as far as playing CONSISTENTLY, he needs to do it for more than 7 games.
 
#79
#79
Indianavol4eva said:
thank you for proving my point. if he DOES go in a stretch like this for 5 or 6 games, THEN i will eat my crow. This was ONE off night like i have said numerous times already.

And as far as him playing good in the past, i dont remember him ever winning mvp of the early season tourny we are in or dropping 27 in a win against a top 5 team. hate all you want, he will bounce back.
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I am with you, he seriously didn't play all that bad. He missed shots, which is just gonna happen. This is the best game he has probably ever had passing the ball, he made some seriously pretty passes that had some umph on them. He played defense and didn't turn it over infinite times like some people are suggesting.

Another thing I noticed is that he was obviously being double teamed early, something he clearly is not use to seeing.
 
#80
#80
Indianavol4eva said:
thank you for proving my point. if he DOES go in a stretch like this for 5 or 6 games, THEN i will eat my crow. This was ONE off night like i have said numerous times already.

And as far as him playing good in the past, i dont remember him ever winning mvp of the early season tourny we are in or dropping 27 in a win against a top 5 team. hate all you want, he will bounce back.
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Ummm so basically you're considering the Nova and Pitt games the "standard Hopson games"??? Those games were ON nights for him. That was not normal (in fact Pitt was his career high).

What you saw tonight is more normal than him scoring 27. Look at the stats. Not only points but turnovers and barely visible on the rebounding or assist stat line.
 
#82
#82
kidbourbon said:
Yeah, let's just call off the message board completely then. We'll wait until the end of the year before we start praising Hopson. Let's also wait until Tyler Bray has played 8 years in the NFL before we attempt to draw conclusions about how good he might be. And, Tobias Harris, well he's just a freshmen, we shouldn't be able to discuss his play until at least 2012.

Terrible post.
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yumadtho?
 
#83
#83
MrBamSeydu said:
Ummm so basically you're considering the Nova and Pitt games the "standard Hopson games"??? Those games were ON nights for him. That was not normal (in fact Pitt was his career high).

What you saw tonight is more normal than him scoring 27. Look at the stats. Not only points but turnovers and barely visible on the rebounding or assist stat line.
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Avatar bet that he ends up first team All-SEC? Oh wait ....
 
#84
#84
VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
Don't get me wrong, I hope i am wrong. I'm just saying he has done this on numerous occassions in the past.

And as far as playing CONSISTENTLY, he needs to do it for more than 7 games.
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1 off game in every 8 sounds pretty consistent to me.

MrBamSeydu said:
Ummm so basically you're considering the Nova and Pitt games the "standard Hopson games"??? Those games were ON nights for him. That was not normal (in fact Pitt was his career high).

What you saw tonight is more normal than him scoring 27. Look at the stats. Not only points but turnovers and barely visible on the rebounding or assist stat line.
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if you looked at the stats, you would see that all of his numbers are pretty close to his season averages except points. he even had less turnovers tonight than he averages this season. So what stat sheet are you looking at?

and no, im not saying 27 is normal for hopson RIGHT NOW, but i believe that as the season goes on, he will become more known for consistently scoring highly in each game.

MrBamSeydu said:
Melvin Goins was more important than Hopson.

I'm not surprised you're still following me around. :hi:
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way to say something that doesnt matter... at all. Even if Goins was more important than Hopson, we still lose that game without Hopson.
 
#85
#85
SpringBokVol said:
I am a Hopson hater. And I have no problems admitting it. It is shameful that in three years his career high is 27 points.

I will eat crow and come around on Hopson if he can do that every game with the exception being an off night - not the exception being a breakout performance.
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This. And yes, I am quoting myself. I'm hungry.
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#87
#87
Tonight was a reminder of what the problem is with Hopson: dude can simply disappear on the court when you need leaders. He was a non-factor the first 30 minutes of the game. He might as well not have even suited up.
 
#88
#88
Indianavol4eva said:
1 off game in every 8 sounds pretty consistent to me.

and no, im not saying 27 is normal for hopson RIGHT NOW, but i believe that as the season goes on, he will become more known for consistently scoring highly in each game.
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And others believe he won't. At this point I don't think there's any reason to prove that your view is more likely. He's had 2 seasons of inconsistency and a small part of a season of consistent good play. I'm sure everyone wants him to turn it around, but it's hardly surprising that everyone isn't strapped into the Hopson bandwagon just yet.
 
#89
#89
Indianavol4eva said:
its one game. idiot. hes been consistantly better for the previous seven.
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This is what kills me about Scotty lovers. It was one game! BS. It has been three years of one game.

The one game should refer to games like Pitt where he does show up. He did the exact thing last year. Played really well the first 7-10 games and then showed up at different times during the year after that.

I didn't originally respond to this thread, but tonight was just another glorious point of why Scotty Hopson is one of the most overrated players in Vol history. Too much hype to be this way three years in.
 
#90
#90
Great players don't have games where they are not a factor for their team. Certainly, any player can have an off night, but Hopson is one of the most frustrating players due to his immense talent that he only uses in some games. Lack of focus and intensity game after game is his problem.
 
#91
#91
BasketvolsFan said:
Great players don't have games where they are not a factor for their team. Certainly, any player can have an off night, but Hopson is one of the most frustrating players due to his immense talent that he only uses in some games. Lack of focus and intensity game after game is his problem.
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Obviously Griffith didn't address the team before the game.
 
#92
#92
BasketvolsFan said:
Great players don't have games where they are not a factor for their team. Certainly, any player can have an off night, but Hopson is one of the most frustrating players due to his immense talent that he only uses in some games. Lack of focus and intensity game after game is his problem.
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he did everything perfectly fine except shoot. It was an off shooting night, yet people proclaim he was uninvolved, lazy, turnover happy, etc. look at the stats. all it was was an off shooting night.
 
#93
#93
BasketvolsFan said:
Great players don't have games where they are not a factor for their team. Certainly, any player can have an off night, but Hopson is one of the most frustrating players due to his immense talent that he only uses in some games. Lack of focus and intensity game after game is his problem.
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Yes they do. It happens all the time with great players. Now, is Scotty a "great" player? I don't think so, but he is a da** good one and I, for one, am not going to over analyze his off night. I've been watching basketball far too long to let one game like this worry me.
 
#94
#94
Actually, it is not a one game situation with Hopson. Look at his three years on this team and a pattern actually starts to develop. If this was the only game, I would agree with you completely.
 
#95
#95
BasketvolsFan said:
Actually, it is not a one game situation with Hopson. Look at his three years on this team and a pattern actually starts to develop. If this was the only game, I would agree with you completely.
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He's only played two years. He is starting his third year. This year has been nothing like his first two, IMHO. He is driving to the basket MUCH MORE agressively than the previous two years.
 
#96
#96
I agree that he has looked better this year, but there is still a pattern that we saw last night that continues this, his third year.
 
#98
#98
hldngaflush said:
This is why I hate this basketball forum, a bunch of retarded *******s who expect us to be world beaters night in and night out. Would you like UT hoops to return to the early 90's? We're 7-1 with wins over Pitt and Villanova.
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The 2 big wins away from Knoxville is what's really impressive.
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