The Star Wars 8 SPOILER thread.

[Jmyers1033]

I would say a book or comic book is 100% Guaranteed.

He served his purpose in this trilogy in the exact same way Palpatine served his in the OT. It just happened a movie sooner.

Any problems with Snoke really lie squarely on Abrams and the writers of TFA for introducing such a redundant character. If anything TLJ cleans the slate for a truly original ending to this trilogy.

Has to be a book something that goes in depth to his story, im intrigued in his story.

 

[bigdaddy]

He gave us the exact same amount that Palpatine gave us in the OT (Who btw was never even called Palpatine in the OT). The only difference is Palpatine died so Vader could redeem himself while Snoke died for Kylo to usurp his position.

And I say the same thing about Jedi, you would think they learned not to do it twice. Dumb

 

[bigdaddy]

I am so sick of that crap. Disney has humanized animals to the point it is insane. I love animals, and I'm a conservationist, but this crap is just stupid.

THE entire movie was full of Disney propaganda and agenda. That just made it suck and an entirely different level

 

[Jmyers1033]

And I say the same thing about Jedi, you would think they learned not to do it twice. Dumb

Why do you watch Star Wars if you dont like any of the movies?

 

[bigdaddy]

Why do you watch Star Wars if you dont like any of the movies?

I liked the original but not the Ewoks or how they handled the emperor and the force ghost scene at the end. The next three were garbage. I liked rouge one the most and the TFA. This one, I’ll never watch again. Good try though. You get a piece of candy for your effort

 

[Jmyers1033]

I liked the original but not the Ewoks or how they handled the emperor and the force ghost scene at the end. The next three were garbage. I liked rouge one the most and the TFA. This one, I’ll never watch again. Good try though. You get a piece of candy for your effort

It sounds to me like you put yourself threw torture by watching star wars... i mean if that your thing go for it.

 

[bigdaddy]

It sounds to me like you put yourself threw torture by watching star wars... i mean if that your thing go for it.

The last Jedi was painful, I thought about leaving. I kept waiting on it to get better then just waited for the end. I guess that makes me a masochist if that helps

 

[Rockytoptalker]

Rose..yeah..um..her sister flying the bomber in the beginning and sacrificing herself..ok..still pointless..but what was up with those bombers? Were they actually using old B-29 engines to fly in space? Wtf.

Finn has become filler fodder for the movie. He should have be allowed to make the ultimate sacrifice..but now hes got a chubby girlfriend he probably didn't want..He is officially the third wheel non comedic relief now.

Snoke..lots of build up then POOF gone like a fart in the wind. Guy had Emperor like powers...

Reys family - dead child trafficking drunkards.

Luke strokes out and becomes a force ghost...probably from some metals poisoning from drinking unpasteurized rock walrus milk or whatever the F that green stuff was.

They had a perfect chance to kill Leia off but NO..gotta try and force one of the most unimportant OT characters to the forefront while ignoring the fact she could barely talk or move her face from all the plastic surgery..and that chain smokers voice...

I think Abrams got back on with the movie because his original story literally got shredded and shot to sh!t and he has to salvage something.

I saw it a second time and enjoyed it more than my initial viewing mainly because I couldn't possibly be disappointed any more. I think the future of the franchise will see force users come about without any rigid structure like the Jedi or Sith around which sounds like we might start seeing guys who do some good and do some bad..or "the grey" force type people.

Still don't understand why space bombers get people so upset, if you focus on every little intricacy in Star Wars nothing will make sense.

Agreed on Finn and Rose. Finn's death could've been epic but they ruined it and Rose is absolutely pointless.

What buildup? Plus it'll be nice to see Kylo as the new "Supreme Leader". Everyone knew Snoke was going to die at some point, the question was when. Well, question answered.

Everybody and their mom doesn't have to be related in Star Wars. I was relieved when they said Rey's parents were nobodies.

A lightsaber battle would've been cool, but much like the parenting aspect not every important Jedi has to die the same way.

I didn't like what they did with Leia, so yea I get that.

All Abrams did was copy ANH. Starkiller base was the worst thing of all the new movies so far. It's supposed to be the biggest, baddest weapon in the history of the universe then proceeds to get blown up with relative ease.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Still don't understand why space bombers get people so upset, if you focus on every little intricacy in Star Wars nothing will make sense.

Agreed on Finn and Rose. Finn's death could've been epic but they ruined it and Rose is absolutely pointless.

What buildup? Plus it'll be nice to see Kylo as the new "Supreme Leader". Everyone knew Snoke was going to die at some point, the question was when. Well, question answered.

Everybody and their mom doesn't have to be related in Star Wars. I was relieved when they said Rey's parents were nobodies.

A lightsaber battle would've been cool, but much like the parenting aspect not every important Jedi has to die the same way.

I didn't like what they did with Leia, so yea I get that.

All Abrams did was copy ANH. Starkiller base was the worst thing of all the new movies so far. It's supposed to be the biggest, baddest weapon in the history of the universe then proceeds to get blown up with relative ease.

Ignoring the mechanics of "space bombing" the pace put me off. I mean you can jump to light speed..you'd think you'd have some quick bombers. But no, they plod along begging to be picked off by everyone. It was just annoying.

Star Wars has always been about the Skywalkers and TLJ pretty much said F that. I found that rather cheap.

The Rey/Kylo scene was pretty good I thought.


And now..the First order is like 30 dudes...and the rebels are like what, 8 people?

 

[FLVOL_79]

I liked the original but not the Ewoks or how they handled the emperor and the force ghost scene at the end. The next three were garbage. I liked rouge one the most and the TFA. This one, I’ll never watch again. Good try though. You get a piece of candy for your effort

I bet you liked Battle for Endor right?!










lol:

 

[Carl Pickens]

I enjoyed the movie, but I agree with this.

A stormtrooper giving his life for the greater good could have been incredible writing. That would have people talking about this movie for a decade since it would have set an unprecedented “no character is safe” concept for Star Wars.

Game of Thrones has taught us the audience eats that stuff up.

That's a much deeper thought than I had. I just thought I'd enjoy watching his character get vaporized so I wouldn't have to see him in the next movie. .....I was disappointed when I learned Rose wasn't dead for the same reason.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The last Jedi was painful, I thought about leaving. I kept waiting on it to get better then just waited for the end. I guess that makes me a masochist if that helps

It just means you recognize some Disneyed up BS.

After seeing TFA and realizing it was nothing more than a crapped up copy of A New Hope, I was hoping for a drastic improvement...... I was disappointed.

 

[rjd970]

The more I think about it, the more i realize it was not only that Disney brushed aside original storylines and dismissed TFA mysteries. It was they way they did it. The pretty much threw it in the face of the older fans.

Almost from the start when Luke takes the lightsaber and summarily tosses it aside like it was stupid. No reflection, no wondering how she got it. Nothing, and it was a big cliffhanger Disney intentionally put in only to not deliver. It was an in your face FU to the original story. A “this isn’t going to be a Star Wars movie like you want”. If you really want to get pissed, go back and watch the trailers. They build it up, and in fact the whole story, basically, is misconstrued from the trailers.

I agree with the Snoke complaints too. There should have been something more to him. We here all these stories about the history of the Jedi/Sith and darth plageues and what not, yet it turns out Snoke was a nobody.

I mean, where the **** was the stories that made the originals so good? Most of us wanted those type stories with modern CGI and fight choreography. We get nothing. We get timelines that don’t make sense. Rey is seemingly training for weeks/months with Luke, yet the fleet chase seems to happen over a matter of hours. At least put some effort in it.

We don’t want political commentary. We don’t care about Luke milking an animal or pole vault fishing. We don’t want the corny jokes. I mean, there was actually a mama joke in the first 5 minutes. Ridiculous. Rey’s parents were....well drunks that didn’t give a ****? Why bother to create this storylines, or at the very least cultivate them, only pull the rug out? There was no closure to anything from any of episodes 1-7. Well maybe there was closure, but it was not interesting or advancing the story in anyway.

Lukes line in the movie “this is not going to go the way you want it” is fundamentally true. So much, I have to wonder if Disney intentionally put it in there and in the trailers as a slap to the face. Almost as if saying to the original fans “thanks for your money and watching our millennial-centric non-story”.

 

[BenGrimm]

The complaints about Disney having some heavy hand in a radical shift in tone are quite funny. As if ROTJ and the prequels didn’t already share most of that same tone. Lucasfilm still operates independently from Disney studios in a similar way Marvel does. They aren’t slapping the Disney Castle lead to start the movie.

Plus not many are crying about Disney mucking up the Marvel movies.

I guess you could point the finger at Kathleen Kennedy to some degree but if you look at the list of movies she has produced over the past 40 years you will probably find more you liked than hated.

 

[Jmyers1033]

The complaints about Disney having some heavy hand in a radical shift in tone are quite funny. As if ROTJ and the prequels didn’t already share most of that same tone. Lucasfilm still operates independently from Disney studios in a similar way Marvel does. They aren’t slapping the Disney Castle lead to start the movie.

Plus not many are crying about Disney mucking up the Marvel movies.

I guess you could point the finger at Kathleen Kennedy to some degree but if you look at the list of movies she has produced over the past 40 years you will probably find more you liked than hated.

Star War fans hate Star Wars more than anyone lol

 

[BenGrimm]

Star War fans hate Star Wars more than anyone lol

Sounds like TN fans LOL

 

[BRTiger]

Still don't understand why space bombers get people so upset, if you focus on every little intricacy in Star Wars nothing will make sense.

It's just one glaring example of lazy writing and storytelling. I just don't understand how they story-board that scene and not have someone in the room speak up and say, "hey guys, this is a really dumb concept, why not just use larger photon torpedoes or some sort of missile to deliver the payload instead of bombers that look like they were straight out of a WWII movie?"

Similar to the whole space chase bit, it's just lazy. They even have one of the First Order officers explain that the Resistance cruiser is lighter... in space... with no gravity. Why not just have the resistance get caught in a pincer move and evacuate as many as they can to the abandoned base? They were already caught in a trap because the First Order could track them through hyperspace... the whole running out of fuel thing was lazy writing.

I get that, going back to the original Star Wars, you have to let some things go for the sake of cinema. There's gravity on board all space ships, X-Wings and other craft can somehow maneuver just the same in gravity on a planet than they can in zero-g space, there are sounds and fire despite being in a vacuum. It would be cool if everyone on board the Millenium Falcon was floating in zero gravity, but it would have been virtually impossible to film back then. This film just crossed that line more often and more egregiously than previous Star Wars films.

 

[rjd970]

Star War fans hate Star Wars more than anyone lol

Ehh. I think they really love it, and don’t want to see it bastardized.

 

[BenGrimm]

It's just one glaring example of lazy writing and storytelling. I just don't understand how they story-board that scene and not have someone in the room speak up and say, "hey guys, this is a really dumb concept, why not just use larger photon torpedoes or some sort of missile to deliver the payload instead of bombers that look like they were straight out of a WWII movie?"

Similar to the whole space chase bit, it's just lazy. They even have one of the First Order officers explain that the Resistance cruiser is lighter... in space... with no gravity. Why not just have the resistance get caught in a pincer move and evacuate as many as they can to the abandoned base? They were already caught in a trap because the First Order could track them through hyperspace... the whole running out of fuel thing was lazy writing.

I get that, going back to the original Star Wars, you have to let some things go for the sake of cinema. There's gravity on board all space ships, X-Wings and other craft can somehow maneuver just the same in gravity on a planet than they can in zero-g space, there are sounds and fire despite being in a vacuum. It would be cool if everyone on board the Millenium Falcon was floating in zero gravity, but it would have been virtually impossible to film back then. This film just crossed that line more often and more egregiously than previous Star Wars films.

So you realize Star Wars operates with its own rules of physics but the bombers were just two much?

Does it not bother you in ESB that the Falcon can’t jump to hyperapace but they just take off to Cloud City in first gear, in another solar system, in what seems like a few hours? With Boba Fett following them in open space like they wouldn’t spot him?

Oh and FWIW the dog fights in ANH were always based on WWI and II dog fights in cinema. The bombers are consistent with that visual.

 

[BRTiger]

So you realize Star Wars operates with its own rules of physics but the bombers were just two much?

Does it not bother you in ESB that the Falcon can’t jump to hyperapace but they just take off to Cloud City in first gear, in another solar system, in what seems like a few hours? With Boba Fett following them in open space like they wouldn’t spot him?

Oh and FWIW the dog fights in ANH were always based on WWI and II dog fights in cinema. The bombers are consistent with that visual.

Yes, that's what I just said. It was stupid.

I honestly haven't watched any of the original trilogy in many years, I don't remember that scene.

Dog fights work well in space visually... dropping bombs doesn't.

Probably also has a lot to do with watching those as a kid vs. this one as an adult.

 

[Jmyers1033]

Sounds like TN fans LOL

I never seen a more accurate statement in my life!

 

[BenGrimm]

Yes, that's what I just said. It was stupid.

I honestly haven't watched any of the original trilogy in many years, I don't remember that scene.

Dog fights work well in space visually... dropping bombs doesn't.

Probably also has a lot to do with watching those as a kid vs. this one as an adult.

DING DING DING

This isn’t Game of Throwns. They aren’t made for adults. They are made for 8 year olds and general audiences. Always have been. Always will be (most likely).

 

[BRTiger]

That still doesn't excuse the lazy writing, in my opinion. There are plenty of movies out there geared more toward kids that still have well written adult moments.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

DING DING DING

This isn’t Game of Throwns. They aren’t made for adults. They are made for 8 year olds and general audiences. Always have been. Always will be (most likely).

This.

I remember watching the prequels and having a "meh, not great but it's still more Star Wars" type feeling.

I also remember going over to people's houses with kids, in the same range I was when I saw the OT, and they loved the prequels. They had posters of TPM and AOTC up in their rooms, the toys, and watched the DVDs all the time. 15 years later they are older and still defend the prequels.

 

[BenGrimm]

This.

I remember watching the prequels and having a "meh, not great but it's still more Star Wars" type feeling.

I also remember going over to people's houses with kids, in the same range I was when I saw the OT, and they loved the prequels. They had posters of TPM and AOTC up in their rooms, the toys, and watched the DVDs all the time. 15 years later they are older and still defend the prequels.

Yup... and as I’ve said before, I appreciate the prequels more after watching them with my kids and seeing the wonder in their eyes.

I guarantee most of us who were kids when the OT came out had parents that rolled their eyes at all the Star Wars hype back then.

I still remember my Grandfather taking us to see ESB and falling asleep in the middle. My sisters and I were like “HOW DO YOU FALL ASLEEP DURING THAT AWESOME MOVIE?!?!?”