The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

When I watch football I want to be free of politics. I watch it to clear my mind of things and have a good time.
If someone want to spit on our flag and national antheim, they can go straight to hell.
I vote with my pocketbook. I`m done with pro sports. I will not consider buying a ticket to a pro football game or watch them on TV ever again. My country is much more important than a goofy football game.
I`m done with pro football forever.
The fans can deal with this problem better than anyone.
 
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When I watch football I want to be free of politics. I watch it to clear my mind of things and have a good time.
If someone want to spit on our flag and national antheim, they can go straight to hell.
I vote with my pocketbook. I`m done with pro sports. I will not consider buying a ticket to a pro football game or watch them on TV ever again. My country is much more important than a goofy football game.
I`m done with pro football forever.
The fans can deal with this problem better than anyone.

The kneelers' point is that too many people don't have the option of blissfully ignoring those issues like you do
 
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As the Tennessee Titans finally snapped an 11-game losing streak with a 36-22 victory against the Indianapolis Colts, the game only achieved a low 6.1 in metered markets, Deadline Hollywood reported on Tuesday.

The Week 6 game fell over 3% from the October 17, 2016, game between the Arizona Cardinals and the New York Jets. This year’s Week 6 saw a season low with a 3.0 among the 18-49 age demographic and only 8.4 million viewers.

The bad showing is only a small part of the 12 percent tumble that Week 6 took over last year’s ratings. This week’s 8.4 million viewers was also a drop from last Monday’s 10.3 million viewers. Though, as Deadline noted, last Monday featured the debut of the new Star Wars: The Last Jedi movie trailer, and that might have helped boost the numbers.

Ratings have been bad across all the NFL’s partner networks. At CBS, for instance, things have gotten so bad that investors are even being warned the network could find a 3 percent loss of advertising revenue. Another report recently noted that the networks could lose up to $200 million in earnings, due to the NFL ratings crash.
 
As the Tennessee Titans finally snapped an 11-game losing streak with a 36-22 victory against the Indianapolis Colts, the game only achieved a low 6.1 in metered markets, Deadline Hollywood reported on Tuesday.

The Week 6 game fell over 3% from the October 17, 2016, game between the Arizona Cardinals and the New York Jets. This year’s Week 6 saw a season low with a 3.0 among the 18-49 age demographic and only 8.4 million viewers.

The bad showing is only a small part of the 12 percent tumble that Week 6 took over last year’s ratings. This week’s 8.4 million viewers was also a drop from last Monday’s 10.3 million viewers. Though, as Deadline noted, last Monday featured the debut of the new Star Wars: The Last Jedi movie trailer, and that might have helped boost the numbers.

Ratings have been bad across all the NFL’s partner networks. At CBS, for instance, things have gotten so bad that investors are even being warned the network could find a 3 percent loss of advertising revenue. Another report recently noted that the networks could lose up to $200 million in earnings, due to the NFL ratings crash.

Well Forbes just reported that Trump's net worth is down $600 million in the last year. Since the NFL is worth about 20x's more than Trump Real Estate, maybe people are tuning him out too. I wonder who is in more financial trouble??

Forgot the link...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...une-falls-600-million-in-a-year/#7175789e141b
 
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Well Forbes just reported that Trump's net worth is down $600 million in the last year. Since the NFL is worth about 20x's more than Trump Real Estate, maybe people are tuning him out too. I wonder who is in more financial trouble??

Forgot the link...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...une-falls-600-million-in-a-year/#7175789e141b

Trump is poor - he should get into the money for arms and uranium deals, he obviously isn't doing it right.

Trump is wrong, America is a great place - only here could a poor couple from Arkansas that have only really worked but a few years in their lives be able to a mass 100s of millions of fortune from simply approving a few arm/uranium sales.
 
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Am I unpatriotic if, after all this discussion, I don’t really care about the Anthem protests, their reasons for protesting, the league’s response and the jingoism of the far right and it’s faux-boycott?
 
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Am I unpatriotic if, after all this discussion, I don’t really care about the Anthem protests, their reasons for protesting, the league’s response and the jingoism of the far right and it’s faux-boycott?

Maybe it (patriotism) depends on what you do care about? Just something to consider since I am not sure "patriotism" can exist without caring about anything.
 
I just think the indignation of the right is a little forced.

Is it?

Well, imo this isn't about just one thing either. What's the big deal? I mean people boycott, so? Its not life or death to the general public whether the stands are filled or Jerry Jones makes another billion. How about we just let everyone fight it out, what's the harm in that?
 
Is it?

Well, imo this isn't about just one thing either. What's the big deal? I mean people boycott, so? Its not life or death to the general public whether the stands are filled or Jerry Jones makes another billion. How about we just let everyone fight it out, what's the harm in that?

Do you always ask rhetorical questions?
 
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My $0.02 on patriotism...way too much of our patriotic focus is on the government aspect of our country and not nearly enough on the community aspect.
 
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I just think the indignation of the right is a little forced.

Sheeeyiit Ol' Son!
Evidently you don't know nuthin.
The temp my blood boils at has been determined.
Players (and their agreeable fans) trifling with the flag and anthem ceremony is what it takes.

The NFL can go to h3ll in a handbasket for all I care.
 
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Sheeeyiit Ol' Son!
Evidently you don't know nuthin.
The temp my blood boils at has been determined.
Players (and their agreeable fans) trifling with the flag and anthem ceremony is what it takes.

The NFL can go to h3ll in a handbasket for all I care.

I have to agree...the establishment left will do anything to exploit an agenda....including ****ting on the flag and anyone who has faught or died under this banner...
 
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Sheeeyiit Ol' Son!
Evidently you don't know nuthin.
The temp my blood boils at has been determined.
Players (and their agreeable fans) trifling with the flag and anthem ceremony is what it takes.

The NFL can go to h3ll in a handbasket for all I care.

I wonder how you got through life without hulking out if something as petty as this gets you so flustered.
 
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I wonder how you got through life without hulking out if something as petty as this gets you so flustered.

And they same could be said of the people not liking the boycott, how do they get through life, you really aren't doing anything different. I have no idea how we all would get through life without the NFL. (giggle)
 
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I wonder how you got through life without hulking out if something as petty as this gets you so flustered.

We see the world differently.
Mine is the correct way.
Whether or not you decide live your cushy life honoring all those who died or were wounded to insure you have the freedoms to disrespect the flag and anthem ceremony, to protest where legal -and the "Well just look back at the way the '60s & '70s civil rights protestors and venues they chose were treated, & etc & so on DOES NOT apply. Virtually any and all combat Vets have served and fought alongside enough black brothers that we indeed would support them. But this group of trifling bozos in the NFL don't get to piss on my dead friends sacrifice and claim their BLM issue supercedes the solumn respect they deserve without me, and millions more of our comrades in arms and their surving families taking issue and calling BS.

When I first saw players taking a knee, I lost caring about any team in the NFL, or any single player on any team, in about a New York second. I doubt I'll ever care again.
 
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We see the world differently.
Mine is the correct way.
Whether or not you decide live your cushy life honoring all those who died or were wounded to insure you have the freedoms to disrespect the flag and anthem ceremony, to protest where legal -and the "Well just look back at the way the '60s & '70s civil rights protestors and venues they chose were treated, & etc & so on DOES NOT apply. Virtually any and all combat Vets have served and fought alongside enough black brothers that we indeed would support them. But this group of trifling bozos in the NFL don't get to piss on my dead friends sacrifice and claim their BLM issue supercedes the solumn respect they deserve without me, and millions more of our comrades in arms and their surving families taking issue and calling BS.

When I first saw players taking a knee, I lost caring about any team in the NFL, or any single player on any team, in about a New York second. I doubt I'll ever care again.

I have friends in the military who for the most part do not care at all. If they aren't angry, why the hell would I be.

This has become a giant south park episode in real life where every easily triggered hot head in this country is trying to one up each other in a game of who can scream the loudest about how big of a patriot they are. It's just blatant and cringeworthy.
 
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