The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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n_huffhines said:
The group who has lived long enough to have contributed more. Who will have contributed more in 40 years?
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We have absolutely no idea who will have contributed more in 40 years because we have no idea what it will look like. It cannot persist in its current form. Plain and simple.

Edit: or... see post above too.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok Percy let me be clear. I am against any political message from any professional athlete or coach when they are in the process of executing that sport. It has no place. If I agree with it most likely I’ll shrug it off more easily yes. But I will still recognize it has no place. And your context for me being a snowflake due to their message is invalid. You chose to shrug it off. Meh. I chose to tell them stfu and play. Read above. The content of the message is irrelevant and not triggering anything. And thus the hypocrite comment is invalid also!

Now threre are situations where sports and messages intersect. For example the military support in NASCAR. That is a core message in the sport and everybody toes the line in the talking points.
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Stating it's invalid without proper reasoning rings hollow, especially within the context of your positions on feelings and snowflakes outside of this topic. I've demonstrated what I needed to. You may continue contradicting yourself now.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Stating it's invalid without proper reasoning rings hollow, especially within the context of your positions on feelings and snowflakes outside of this topic. I've demonstrated what I needed to. You may continue contradicting yourself now.
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You’ve demonstrated nothing and claimed victory in doing so. Congrats. Carry on.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
We have absolutely no idea who will have contributed more in 40 years because we have no idea what it will look like. It cannot persist in its current form. Plain and simple.

Edit: or... see post above too.
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So boomers gave us Medicare

They pay into it

They realize we're upside down on entitlements and still drastically increase Medicare under W

They get benefits until they die

Millennials pay into it

Millennials don't get the benefits

What was the point again? That BB's aren't entitled?
 
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NashVol11 said:
If the Super Bowl "stops being fun" because a guy takes a knee during the anthem, that says a lot about the viewer, IMO
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It causes issues bc of what taking the knee causes....the majority of the convo on Twitter and the rest of the net is about this stupid crap.... I don’t care if they stand or not but I want to enjoy the nfl.....it takes away from the enjoyment when their are so many other things to do.... I still watch but it was no where near enjoyable last season as it was before.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So boomers gave us Medicare

They pay into it

They realize we're upside down on entitlements and still drastically increase Medicare under W

They get benefits until they die

Millennials pay into it

Millennials don't get the benefits

What was the point again? That BB's aren't entitled?
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Have you been assured by the government that you will get no benefits? How about all the people who paid in all their working lives and died in their 60's?
 
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n_huffhines said:
So boomers gave us Medicare

They pay into it

They realize we're upside down on entitlements and still drastically increase Medicare under W

They get benefits until they die

Millennials pay into it

Millennials don't get the benefits

What was the point again? That BB's aren't entitled?
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I had no say in this plan. Sorry my stance doesn’t fit your narrative but gimme my money back and we’ll call it even.

And I’ve never felt society owed me a living with my doctorate in ancient non spoken languages with a minor in middle American stone pottery history which I incurred 100k in debt in getting.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So boomers gave us Medicare

They pay into it

They realize we're upside down on entitlements and still drastically increase Medicare under W

They get benefits until they die

Millennials pay into it

Millennials don't get the benefits

What was the point again? That BB's aren't entitled?
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Of the two groups, which has the ability to plan for the inevitable failure of all those entitlements? If the millennials are counting on SSN and Medicare, they are truly idiots.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I had no say in this plan. Sorry my stance doesn’t fit your narrative but gimme my money back and we’ll call it even.

And I’ve never felt society owed me a living with my doctorate in ancient non spoken languages with a minor in middle American stone pottery history which I incurred 100k in debt in getting.
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We're talking about your generation, not you specifically. If I wanted to point out how you are entitled, I'd just bump a post from this thread.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So boomers gave us Medicare

They pay into it

They realize we're upside down on entitlements and still drastically increase Medicare under W

They get benefits until they die

Millennials pay into it

Millennials don't get the benefits

What was the point again? That BB's aren't entitled?
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Medicare started in 1965. The boomers would have been in their 20’s. The greatest generation started Medicare. And their parents started social security.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It sucks. These entitlements were terrible ideas.
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Absolutely. That's why I never planned on my defined benefit retirement plan (pension) that was taken in bankruptcy. I didn't count on SSN either. Now I am to the point of trying to figure out what to do for health care when I leave the company.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
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You're directing that question to the wrong side. Ask that question to the people that believe sports are the entertainment arm of the govt.
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I don't know who that might be. I don't think the .gov really cares that much about professional sports other than the tax revenue it gets, but go on with your thought.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Medicare started in 1965. The boomers would have been in their 20’s. The greatest generation started Medicare. And their parents started social security.
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They were in their 20's, so some were of voting age and you completely glossed over the fact that they DRASTICALLY increased medicare liability after they saw we were upside down on entitlements. You can't absolve them, hard as you may try.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They were in their 20's, so some were of voting age and you completely glossed over the fact that they DRASTICALLY increased medicare liability after they saw we were upside down on entitlements. You can't absolve them, hard as you may try.
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Are YOU planning on those entitlements?
 
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I'm really tired of the subject, myself, but heard an interesting comment from a caller on one of the stations this morning (not MSM). She said it angered her that Trump demanded a show of patriotism like this when his entire schtick has been to contravene and reject political correctness, whereas this is the ultimate in that.



Interesting observation.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm really tired of the subject, myself, but heard an interesting comment from a caller on one of the stations this morning (not MSM). She said it angered her that Trump demanded a show of patriotism like this when his entire schtick has been to contravene and reject political correctness, whereas this is the ultimate in that.

Interesting observation.
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It's totally political correctness, and that statement is going to make more than a few butts pucker, around here.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
If the millennials are counting on SSN and Medicare, they are truly idiots.
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So if they are expecting these benefits that they are paying into, then they are idiots.

If they do NOT expect these benefits that they are paying into, what does that make them?

Neither scenario looks lIke an entitled class of people.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't know who that might be. I don't think the .gov really cares that much about professional sports other than the tax revenue it gets, but go on with your thought.
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The govt indeed uses it to promote their war propaganda and indeed pays money to the league for this type of promotion.
 
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