The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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Who cares. The idea of this country is freedom, you are free to do what you want during the anthem. If you want to boycott because of it in any way, do it. Case closed. Much ado about nothing.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They were in their 20's, so some were of voting age and you completely glossed over the fact that they DRASTICALLY increased medicare liability after they saw we were upside down on entitlements. You can't absolve them, hard as you may try.
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I was adding context.

Jesus you get pissy when you’ve picked a point to fight about.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm just responding to what others are saying about it being insolvent.



It sucks. These entitlements were terrible ideas.
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I wish that neither existed, and they could cancel my benefits tomorrow, and I wouldn't shed a tear. I planned for my retirement. Those programs were designed to get votes.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So if they are expecting these benefits that they are paying into, then they are idiots.

If they do NOT expect these benefits that they are paying into, what does that make them?

Neither scenario looks lIke an entitled class of people.
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Yes.

Smart.

Scenario 1 looks entitled to me. Hey I don't care what they do. I will be 1) retired or 2) dead by the time they try to collect. If there is no money for them then you can't say they weren't warned, or more importantly didn't have time to plan for that inevitability. The boomers for the most part were led to believe those entitlements would always be there until it was/is too late.
 
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hog88 said:
So what do ya'll think of the new kickoff rules. Myself, I think they suck.
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They are an extension of the government’s grand plan to condition the people to accepting exploiting 3rd world country resource grabs by elitist capitalists whom the politicians are beholding to.

Right Ras and huff?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Is saluting a flag or pledging allegiance a condition for citizenship?
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Not a condition, but since millions have died fighting for this country and the symbol of this country is its flag, you could at least show some respect for those who take it seriously. If you have no appreciation for those who fought or those that just served that is your right but the anthem is not a place to protest. I am actually on the side of the protesters, the bad cops need to be weeded out of the force, so protest anywhere else and I am with you.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's not a paranoid lens. It's just fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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The only fact is the military paid $53M, probably out of recruiting money didn’t see it explicitly stated in the article, to professional sports for their support. Hey at NASCAR events they have an actual recruiting presence. Why not? The military continually needs new personnel also and they have a budget to recruit them. And let’s face it sporting events are a great place to connect with young people are they not?
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
Not a condition, but since millions have died fighting for this country and the symbol of this country is its flag, you could at least show some respect for those who take it seriously. If you have no appreciation for those who fought or those that just served that is your right but the anthem is not a place to protest. I am actually on the side of the protesters, the bad cops need to be weeded out of the force, so protest anywhere else and I am with you.
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It's not the military's flag, it's America's flag. You can protest America without the protest having anything to do with the military and people who died. Soldiers don't fight for the bad parts of America, they fight for the good parts. These protesters fight the bad parts, not the good parts.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
meh. If you want to view it in the same paranoid lens that RAs does, knock yourself out.
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No paranoia, just a provable fact that you are wrong. They're spending millions upon millions of our money so they can fly 100 million dollar planes that have never seen combat over a stadium full of people who "want politics out of it", when in reality the gov has been all up in it....with our money.

Stay in the locker room. Enough with the sponsorship dollars. Enough with the flyovers. Personally, I think the only thing they should keep is the occasional troop surprise return home to his/her family at halftime, as that's an actual tribute to our soldiers.
 
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PeterNincompoop said:
No paranoia, just a provable fact that you are wrong. They're spending millions upon millions of our money so they can fly $100 million planes that have never seen combat over a stadium full of people who "want politics out of it", when in reality the gov has been all up in it....with our money.

Stay in the locker room. Enough with the sponsorship dollars. Enough with the flyovers. Personally the only thing they should keep is the occasional troop surprise return home to his/her family at halftime, as that's an actual tribute to our soldiers.
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It's done under the guise of recruiting. That money is going to be spent regardless.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's not the military's flag, it's America's flag. You can protest the America without the protest having anything to do with the military and people who died. Soldiers don't fight for the bad parts of America, they fight for the good parts. These protesters fight the bad parts, not the good parts.
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Can one be against illegal immigration without being called anti-immigrant? Can one be against Muslim terrorist without being labeled an Islamaphobe? Can one be against the bad parts of these?
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
Not a condition, but since millions have died fighting for this country and the symbol of this country is its flag, you could at least show some respect for those who take it seriously. If you have no appreciation for those who fought or those that just served that is your right but the anthem is not a place to protest. I am actually on the side of the protesters, the bad cops need to be weeded out of the force, so protest anywhere else and I am with you.
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I thought they took an oath to defend the Constitution... not the flag?

Seems like we can have attacks on our liberties all the time and the Patriots and flagwavers don't budge an inch. But don't disrespect the flag or all hell breaks loose.
 
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