The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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SLICKYINC said:
When all else fails. Call them a racist or neo-Nazi and make them try to defend themselves. The play book is public now.
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Well, you can blame yourselves for that playbook...


Tried to rewrite history and make the civil war about states rights. You guys wrote the code and got pissed when it got cracked.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Well, you can blame yourselves for that playbook...


Tried to rewrite history and make the civil war about states rights. You guys wrote the code and got pissed when it got cracked.
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So you're tell me that Saul Alinsky cracked some unknown code and now California is the new confederacy?
 
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SLICKYINC said:
So you're tell me that Saul Alinsky cracked some unknown code and now California is the new confederacy?
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No, I will make my statement easier to digest. I said that for decades white southerners used the states rights argument when discussing the civil war. They tried to rewrite history and pretend that they weren't racist. Thankfully, their forefathers shined neon lights on why the south was fighting the civil war by putting it front and center in their declarations. Now when that term gets trotted out it is likely to be met with cries of racism because that was what it was historically used for by white southerners. There is some distrust when a white southerner is advocating for states rights especially when it is in support of a policy that has a negative impact on minorities.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Pretty broad brush you are using here.
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How is that a broad brush? Implying that the Unite the Right rally was about peacefully responding to the cruel destruction of their heritage deserves about 5 eyerolls at the very least.

Neo-Nazis literally organized the rally. If I go to a KKK-organized rally and there ends up being violence against black people, I don't get to say I'm actually a nice person and only came for the free coffee. People knew what they were getting into.
 
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If I defended some protestors in Germany by saying, "Hey, defending Nazi statues was really only about heritage. Ignore the histories of who organized the rally, ignore the anti-Semitic remarks screamed out, ignore the guy running someone over...a lot of them were just some nice guys concerned about heritage," how much sympathy would there be?

What reason is there to fight for Nazi or Confederate "heritage" in the first place?
 
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luthervol said:
How do you react to the tweet? Some of you act as if the tweet is true and indicative of how Trumpers feel. How should some one combat that? It's an ignorant tweet that reflects the division with which Trump works so diligently to create.

And to think you guys accuse the left of thinking with their feelz....that is exactly what this person is doing along with every person that agrees that this tweet has any relevance.
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The left is accused of thinking with their feelz because they needed safe spaces, coloring books, puppies, and play dough to cope with election results. While I agree republicans have their issues, they can handle a loss much better.
 
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joevol33 said:
The left is accused of thinking with their feelz because they needed safe spaces, coloring books, puppies, and play dough to cope with election results. While I agree republicans have their issues, they can handle a loss much better.
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With monkey drawings, racist remarks, and birth certificate questions. Much better.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, I will make my statement easier to digest. I said that for decades white southern democrats used the states rights argument when discussing the civil war. They tried to rewrite history and pretend that they weren't racist. Thankfully, their democrat forefathers shined neon lights on why the south was fighting the civil war by putting it front and center in their declarations. Now when that term gets trotted out it is likely to be met with cries of racism because that was what it was historically used for by white southern democrats . There is some distrust when a white southerner is advocating for states rights especially when it is in support of a policy that has a negative impact on minorities.
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ClearwaterVol said:
Well, you can blame yourselves for that playbook...


Tried to rewrite history and make the civil war about states rights. You guys wrote the code and got pissed when it got cracked.
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Please don’t tell me you think the civil war was strictly about slavery....
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, I will make my statement easier to digest. I said that for decades white southerners used the states rights argument when discussing the civil war. They tried to rewrite history and pretend that they weren't racist. Thankfully, their forefathers shined neon lights on why the south was fighting the civil war by putting it front and center in their declarations. Now when that term gets trotted out it is likely to be met with cries of racism because that was what it was historically used for by white southerners. There is some distrust when a white southerner is advocating for states rights especially when it is in support of a policy that has a negative impact on minorities.
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That sounds like lazy thinking and lazy argumentation to me.

I mean... Seriously?

You claim some "code", which entails a regional group of people being racist over a hundred years ago, being used more recently, entailing a regional group of people being racist, thus informing that a regional group of people today are racist for using the "code"...? As opposed to looking at each individual states rights claim, and each individual person that makes it.

And who sounds more like a bigot here?
 
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SLICKYINC said:
There is just as much racism towards whites as it is towards blacks. To act like it isn't, is just willful ignorance.
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Lmao. Our country is becoming more diverse, meaning white people and Christians are less dominant in American culture than they're accustomed to being, and they're throwing a temper tantrum over it. The "attack on white people/Christianity" and "take our country back" rhetoric, the nationalism, the anger toward minorities, it's all part of that. It'll pass.
 
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NashVol11 said:
With monkey drawings, racist remarks, and birth certificate questions. Much better.
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Of course there were some racist yahoo's while he was president, but believe it or not, some people had legitimate reasons to not like Obama. Heck, I pulled for him until he started apologizing on behalf of terrorists for killing Americans.
 
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Obsessed said:
Please don’t tell me you think the civil war was strictly about slavery....
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It wasn't, but something that took me a long time to grasp and I see that other people still don't grasp it is that what the Confederacy was and what it became postbellum are two very different things. Like it or not, white supremacists and the KKK changed the image of the Confederacy forever and that's why Confederate symbols are offensive today. Blame the KKK for the removal of these statues. It's their fault. That's the reality.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
There is just as much racism towards whites as it is towards blacks. To act like it isn't, is just willful ignorance.
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Republicans didn't respond to Obama winning by asking for safe spaces. They said a bunch of racist sh*t and questioned his heritage instead.

Democrats responded to Trump winning by asking for safe spaces. Trump is not dealing with racism in any serious way.

The Republican approach isn't any "better." Instead of safe spaces, it was racism. And Obama dealt with a lot more of that than Trump has; to say otherwise is just willful ignorance.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Republicans didn't respond to Obama winning by asking for safe spaces. They said a bunch of racist sh*t and questioned his heritage instead.

Democrats responded to Trump winning by asking for safe spaces. Trump is not dealing with racism in any serious way.

The Republican approach isn't any "better." Instead of safe spaces, it was racism. And Obama dealt with a lot more of that than Trump has; to say otherwise is just willful ignorance.
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Looks like you've borrowed LG's broad brush. Might want to use a disinfectant.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I stand on the side of common sense that tells me that statues can't hurt anyone.
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OK, I get it. You still think it was about statues even though it was organized by the following groups:

The Nationalist Front
The Daily Stormer
Vanguard America
The Traditionalist Worker Party

....just name a few of the White Nationalist Groups who helped organize the rally.

When I think of the above, I don't think of them trying to protect your 1A Rights. They are there for one reason and one reason only. A telltale sign should have been when they lit their torches the night before and chanted "Seig Heil", or maybe you would have noticed all the Swastika signs they were carrying.

Sorry, I don't know of any "good people" who attend this type of rally.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Lmao. Our country is becoming more diverse, meaning white people and Christians are less dominant in American culture than they're accustomed to being, and they're throwing a temper tantrum over it. The "attack on white people/Christianity" and "take our country back" rhetoric, the nationalism, the anger toward minorities, it's all part of that. It'll pass.
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Lulz. Notice my statement was specific and didn't wonder off into over yonder. You obviously live in a gated community barren of the real world.
 
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MG1968 said:
Looks like you've borrowed LG's broad brush. Might want to use a disinfectant.
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As opposed to the constantly-repeated opinion on this board that all Democrats are SJWs who need safe spaces? Both are generalizations, genius. That's my point.
 
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