The Walking Dead

[n_huffhines]

Every long running show bleeds viewers. People love new things then get bored over time.

What does that say for the rest of TV if TWD is losing viewers but still the top rated show by double?

What would you say constitutes a long-running show?

I was thinking about this the other day...when was the first major TV drama that was reliant on a episode-to-episode story telling?

The old Law & Order was amazing for years, I believe they did 22 episodes per year, but it's different than TWD, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, because the story was 98% self-contained in each episode.

 

[VolnJC]

Every long running show bleeds viewers. People love new things then get bored over time.

What does that say for the rest of TV if TWD is losing viewers but still the top rated show by double?

It says that TV is dying a slow death...almost none of my students(18-24) watch any weekly shows they will catch a movie or binge watch but nothing like my generation(X) who was raised on TV..and to be honest, outside of football season, I watch less than 10 hours of TV a week.

Teens (12-17) watched 17 hours of traditional TV per week in Q3, an 11.5% drop year-over-year and a 30% contraction from 2011;
•Older Millennials (25-34) watched 21 hours and 10 minutes per week in Q3, an 8.6% decrease year-over-year and a 23.8% drop from 2011;
•Gen Xers (35-49) watched 28 hours and 41 minutes per week, a 3.4% decrease year-over-year (equating to 1 hour per week) and a 10.7% contraction from 2011;
•Adults aged 50-64 watched 39 hours and 21 minutes per week, flat year-over-year (down only 2 minutes per week) and down just 2% from Q3 2011 (about three-quarters of an hour per week); and
•Adults aged 65 and older watched 47 hours and 33 minutes per week, up 20 minutes per week from the previous year (<1%) and up about 5% from 2011.

 

[hndog609]

What would you say constitutes a long-running show?

I was thinking about this the other day...when was the first major TV drama that was reliant on a episode-to-episode story telling?

The old Law & Order was amazing for years, I believe they did 22 episodes per year, but it's different than TWD, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, because the story was 98% self-contained in each episode.

That's a good question but I guess there could be some debate about what qualifies. I'm trying to think if any of the old Westerns would really make the cut. Dr Who maybe? The original Battlestar Galactica did have "stand alone" episodes but certainly had a distinct linear trajectory.

And I'm assuming any so called "soap operas" don't count.

 

[BenGrimm]

What would you say constitutes a long-running show?

I was thinking about this the other day...when was the first major TV drama that was reliant on a episode-to-episode story telling?

The old Law & Order was amazing for years, I believe they did 22 episodes per year, but it's different than TWD, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, because the story was 98% self-contained in each episode.

In this day and age I would say once a show completes it's 4th season and renewed for 5th it's a long running show.

It says that TV is dying a slow death...almost none of my students(18-24) watch any weekly shows they will catch a movie or binge watch but nothing like my generation(X) who was raised on TV..and to be honest, outside of football season, I watch less than 10 hours of TV a week.

Teens (12-17) watched 17 hours of traditional TV per week in Q3, an 11.5% drop year-over-year and a 30% contraction from 2011;
•Older Millennials (25-34) watched 21 hours and 10 minutes per week in Q3, an 8.6% decrease year-over-year and a 23.8% drop from 2011;
•Gen Xers (35-49) watched 28 hours and 41 minutes per week, a 3.4% decrease year-over-year (equating to 1 hour per week) and a 10.7% contraction from 2011;
•Adults aged 50-64 watched 39 hours and 21 minutes per week, flat year-over-year (down only 2 minutes per week) and down just 2% from Q3 2011 (about three-quarters of an hour per week); and
•Adults aged 65 and older watched 47 hours and 33 minutes per week, up 20 minutes per week from the previous year (<1%) and up about 5% from 2011.

I don't disagree. I've been saying for the last few years the cable companies are in trouble. Cord cutting is niche now but there is a whole generation of kids that are growing up watching what they want when they want. Outside of sports, live TV will be a thing of the past.

 

[Sandvol]

Nah, the Eeny-meeny-miny-moe thing was perfect.

Nah, they didn't even use the right phrase. Don't use a phrase you have to make politically correct.

 

[bigdaddy]

Episode is getting crushed in forums, Twitter, critics all around. They may have done themselves in with the gimmick. I don't even pay attention to the show as another poster stated. I DVR and watch the end most of the time but I have this week a shot. Hot garbage

 

[bigdaddy]

Nah, they didn't even use the right phrase. Don't use a phrase you have to make politically correct.

It was from the books, and the original didn't have slang in it. It origin is simply just eenie meenie miney mo. The other verses where added over years and tiger was added in the late 60s 70s

 

[butchna]

It was from the books, and the original didn't have slang in it

Sand loves the N word.

 

[bigdaddy]

Sand loves the N word.

I see

 

[UTK]

Well got around to watching it. Cliffhanger. Thats really disappointing. It's this kind of stuff that prevents this show from going to a good show to a great show. And Jon Snows death wasny a cliffhanger. What the heck? He died. It showed him die. Whether he comes back to life will be seen. But it wasnt anywhere near the same thing as thing garbage. Walking Dead is good. GOT is great.

 

[WarDamnVols]

Well got around to watching it. Cliffhanger. Thats really disappointing. It's this kind of stuff that prevents this show from going to a good show to a great show. But it wasny anywhere near the same thing as thing garbage. Walking Dead is good. GOT is great.

yep 100% agree. don't get the GoT comparison at all.

 

[SWIL]

It says that TV is dying a slow death...almost none of my students(18-24) watch any weekly shows they will catch a movie or binge watch but nothing like my generation(X) who was raised on TV..and to be honest, outside of football season, I watch less than 10 hours of TV a week.

Teens (12-17) watched 17 hours of traditional TV per week in Q3, an 11.5% drop year-over-year and a 30% contraction from 2011;
•Older Millennials (25-34) watched 21 hours and 10 minutes per week in Q3, an 8.6% decrease year-over-year and a 23.8% drop from 2011;
•Gen Xers (35-49) watched 28 hours and 41 minutes per week, a 3.4% decrease year-over-year (equating to 1 hour per week) and a 10.7% contraction from 2011;
•Adults aged 50-64 watched 39 hours and 21 minutes per week, flat year-over-year (down only 2 minutes per week) and down just 2% from Q3 2011 (about three-quarters of an hour per week); and
•Adults aged 65 and older watched 47 hours and 33 minutes per week, up 20 minutes per week from the previous year (<1%) and up about 5% from 2011.

Good - it needs too... maybe some will then finally remove their head from arse. (and, yeah, I see the irony in posting this in a thread about TV)

 

[Coug]

Did they attempt to return to Alexandria? Thats what I would have done after the second roadblock. Get back, map out and plan the trip. Regroup as there is a real threat. They have a ton of antibiotics of there is an infection with Maggie.

(Was she having an early "birth" or a miscarriage? )

Having a miscarriage is a distinct possibility but it could also be something like food poisoning. Maybe the fetus died and is gumming it's way out of her. Maybe Enid poisoned her with the pickles.

Let's go over who we know for sure wasn't killed. It's not Carl or Rick as Negan threatened to pluck Carl's other eye out and feed it to Rick if anyone tried anything. It's not a woman so that eliminates Maggie, Michonne, Rosita, Sasha. This leaves Abraham, Eugene, Glenn, Aaron, Daryl to be possible victims.

I don't think it's Glenn because when Glenn popped out to defend Maggie and Negan sized him up and was like "No". I personally don't think it's Daryl because he's already been shot and that was enough trauma for his fanbase. Aaron is just prime Lucille bashing material. He's literally been mostly absent this season and I think his character's story has been told. Abraham and Eugene are also fair game at this point. I could see Negan offing Abraham for showing his defiance while on his knees. I could see Negan pegging Abraham as someone who is never going to do what Negan says so the only option is to eliminate him.

 

[RikidyBones]

Every long running show bleeds viewers. People love new things then get bored over time.

What does that say for the rest of TV if TWD is losing viewers but still the top rated show by double?

Today's TV sucks. Not really a good person to ask lol.

 

[SWIL]

Surprised noone has mentioned this yet. Anyone else see the commerical featuring new AMC show starring one Norman Reedus??

 

[BenGrimm]

Having a miscarriage is a distinct possibility but it could also be something like food poisoning. Maybe the fetus died and is gumming it's way out of her. Maybe Enid poisoned her with the pickles.

Let's go over who we know for sure wasn't killed. It's not Carl or Rick as Negan threatened to pluck Carl's other eye out and feed it to Rick if anyone tried anything. It's not a woman so that eliminates Maggie, Michonne, Rosita, Sasha. This leaves Abraham, Eugene, Glenn, Aaron, Daryl to be possible victims.

I don't think it's Glenn because when Glenn popped out to defend Maggie and Negan sized him up and was like "No". I personally don't think it's Daryl because he's already been shot and that was enough trauma for his fanbase. Aaron is just prime Lucille bashing material. He's literally been mostly absent this season and I think his character's story has been told. Abraham and Eugene are also fair game at this point. I could see Negan offing Abraham for showing his defiance while on his knees. I could see Negan pegging Abraham as someone who is never going to do what Negan says so the only option is to eliminate him.

You make a valid case for Abraham but I kinda think the writers want him around for the war to come. Kirkman has expressed regret about killing g his character too soon in the comics.

Aaron is just too minor. If they think k fans are pissed about the cliffhanger they will absolutely jump ship if they wait 5-6 months for it to be him.

Glenn is the obvious choice. Maybe too obvious. I think they will go another direction to keep comic readers on their toes.

Daryl seems like the most likely candidate to me. He's popular but his character has kind of run its coarse.

That said, I think k it's Eugene. His attempt at a hero moment and giving Rick the recipe for bullets combined with his closure with Abraham is just the perfect set up to send him off.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I think the presence of the first person POV was a big clue to whom you can narrow down who was killed at the end of the episode. Through out the episode they kept showing the view from inside the trailer where the hostages where kept. So that is the view of the person that was killed in my opinion. So that narrows it down to Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, or Michonne.

 

[bigdaddy]

Coug, what makes you think it's not a woman?

 

[BadJerry20]

If it's Aaron or Eugene this show has zero stones and I'll be done with it.

 

[BenGrimm]

I think the presence of the first person POV was a big clue to whom you can narrow down who was killed at the end of the episode. Through out the episode they kept showing the view from inside the trailer where the hostages where kept. So that is the view of the person that was killed in my opinion. So that narrows it down to Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, or Michonne.

Thays a good point. I'm going with Daryl then. He's one that would "take it like a champ" too.

 

[bigdaddy]

If it's Aaron or Eugene this show has zero stones and I'll be done with it.

I just don't care anymore. They had some moments where I thought there was a chance it might get better but then they pull that finale. And with banshee having that lack luster start I'm bummed.

 

[BadJerry20]

I just don't care anymore. They had some moments where I thought there was a chance it might get better but then they pull that finale. And with banshee having that lack luster start I'm bummed.

Yeah the first 4-5 episodes of the second half pulled me back in, then they burned that down. Yeah Banshee let me down, hopefully that was just a "this is what's happened" episode and it'll be back to the crazy this week.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Having a miscarriage is a distinct possibility but it could also be something like food poisoning. Maybe the fetus died and is gumming it's way out of her. Maybe Enid poisoned her with the pickles.

Let's go over who we know for sure wasn't killed. It's not Carl or Rick as Negan threatened to pluck Carl's other eye out and feed it to Rick if anyone tried anything. It's not a woman so that eliminates Maggie, Michonne, Rosita, Sasha. This leaves Abraham, Eugene, Glenn, Aaron, Daryl to be possible victims.

I don't think it's Glenn because when Glenn popped out to defend Maggie and Negan sized him up and was like "No". I personally don't think it's Daryl because he's already been shot and that was enough trauma for his fanbase. Aaron is just prime Lucille bashing material. He's literally been mostly absent this season and I think his character's story has been told. Abraham and Eugene are also fair game at this point. I could see Negan offing Abraham for showing his defiance while on his knees. I could see Negan pegging Abraham as someone who is never going to do what Negan says so the only option is to eliminate him.

In the GN, he originally says no to Glenn as well, so that really doesn't expel him.

 

[Sandvol]

It was from the books, and the original didn't have slang in it. It origin is simply just eenie meenie miney mo. The other verses where added over years and tiger was added in the late 60s 70s

Well, the N word was used for over 100 years and what we all grew up with. Never heard any other version. Can't imagine Neegan using any other version.

 

[Sandvol]

If it's Aaron or Eugene this show has zero stones and I'll be done with it.

I concur. Needs to be Michonne.