The Walking Dead

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#8,277
I'm in the middle.
I do think they had to show everything they did to fully introduce Negan, fully break Rick, and let people who don't read spoilers absorb the deaths.

What I would have changed, a two hour season premiere like they have done in the past.
Could have covered everything they did and gave a little more for those of us who had seen the "you are it", a hundred times already.
 
#8,278
#8,278
chargervol said:
I'm in the middle.
I do think they had to show everything they did to fully introduce Negan, fully break Rick, and let people who don't read spoilers absorb the deaths.

What I would have changed, a two hour season premiere like they have done in the past.
Could have covered everything they did and gave a little more for those of us who had seen the "you are it", a hundred times already.
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They milked that line didn't they?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
For sure. Which is why I'm glad they didn't have a 2 hour episode.
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I assumed it was obvious I meant with completely different material. Not just extending those scenes.


Read one thought online that was decent. Could have killed the same two with better effect this way.

Killed Abe at the end of season 6.
Let people think that was the totality of death. Used "will Carl lose his arm?" As the cliffhanger and commercial material.
Then the Glenn death to open season 7.

Spoilers would have been more focused on Carl. People wouldn't have been as upset about the Cliffhanger death because they would have thought it already happened. Then the second death would have been much more of a surprise.

Of course that is with the full privilege of hindsight. Which always seems the easier way to go lol.
 
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chargervol said:
I assumed it was obvious I meant with completely different material. Not just extending those scenes.


Read one thought online that was decent. Could have killed the same two with better effect this way.

Killed Abe at the end of season 6.
Let people think that was the totality of death. Used "will Carl lose his arm?" As the cliffhanger and commercial material.
Then the Glenn death to open season 7.

Spoilers would have been more focused on Carl. People wouldn't have been as upset about the Cliffhanger death because they would have thought it already happened. Then the second death would have been much more of a surprise.

Of course that is with the full privilege of hindsight. Which always seems the easier way to go lol.
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Yes, but I'm saying I don't believe they would have done anything but pretty much drag out what they were already dragging out.
 
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#8,282
i thought the episode was alright. definitely not top 10 and definitely not bottom 10. just kind of in the middle.

I really like that they didn't hold back on the brutality of Lucille's beatings. That image of Glenn's smashed-in head trying to talk to Maggie was perfect and needed to be there. Just heartbreaking. Gonna miss him.

Also loved the hatchet scene (NOT where Rick has to go get it), but once they got back and Rick is put in the position to have to cut Coral's arm to save everyone. Even though I had a good idea it was going to end the way it did (replacing an arm, let alone Carl's [dude just lost an eye for pete's sake] would be a bit too much more effort, time, and money), I was still on the edge of my seat anticipating about the several ways it could have played out. Really intense scene there.

Non-verbal acting by Andrew Lincoln is phenomenal. His verbal acting was just ok, a little rough at one point. Maggie was actually kind of cringe-worthy to be completely honest. JDM is good, I think he's doing alright with what he is given.

Not really shocked at the outcome. Granted, I was well aware of the main rumor (Glenn first, Abe second after retaliating), but even still, it wasn't really all that surprising. It basically still kept completely to the comics (obviously by killing Glenn, but even Lucilling Abe isn't that much of a departure since he got the arrow through the eye like 2 issues prior). Abe dying first pretty much sealed the deal that there were going to be multiple deaths lol I don't mind his character that much, but a lot of the screentime/dialogue he was getting last season with Sasha, was ****ing dreadful. his death had absolutely no effect on me.

season finale gimmick they pulled last year is still garbage and was completely not needed. it really didn't serve any purpose in making this moment/episode any more impacting than it would have had they not done it.

oh well, on to a new season! to the diehards and critics of the board, here. we. go.
 
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chargervol said:
I assumed it was obvious I meant with completely different material. Not just extending those scenes.


Read one thought online that was decent. Could have killed the same two with better effect this way.

Killed Abe at the end of season 6.
Let people think that was the totality of death. Used "will Carl lose his arm?" As the cliffhanger and commercial material.
Then the Glenn death to open season 7.

Spoilers would have been more focused on Carl. People wouldn't have been as upset about the Cliffhanger death because they would have thought it already happened. Then the second death would have been much more of a surprise.

Of course that is with the full privilege of hindsight. Which always seems the easier way to go lol.
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I think a cliffhanger with Carl's arm would have been especially lame considering they didn't even go through with it. Plus that HAD to come last. That was the part that finally showed Rick got owned.

I was firmly in the not bothered by the cliffhanger camp. I thought it was fine how the returned to the scene with two deaths and the part with Carl.

Overall I think the Premiers to Season 3 (taking the prison) and Season 5 (terminus and Rambo Carroll) were better episodes but this one was definitely one to remember.
 
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When you ride TWD writers for not having a pair then they finally decide to bring it...
 

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Geeesh. I just came over here to get average reactions but some of you dig into this way more than I ever imagined. (Not saying your wrong for doing so) I just enjoy the show and not worry about the ins and outs of every move. I'll just continue doing that with Vol football.
I do enjoy some of the more detailed aspects y'all bring forth though
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I think a cliffhanger with Carl's arm would have been especially lame considering they didn't even go through with it. Plus that HAD to come last. That was the part that finally showed Rick got owned.

I was firmly in the not bothered by the cliffhanger camp. I thought it was fine how the returned to the scene with two deaths and the part with Carl.

Overall I think the Premiers to Season 3 (taking the prison) and Season 5 (terminus and Rambo Carroll) were better episodes but this one was definitely one to remember.
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I know a few pages back it's been talked about but I think last night was a little foreshadowing with Carl's hand and Rick's for that matter. I'm sure somebody will correct me but watch Talking Dead last night seems like I remember them saying either was a possibility. I was also half asleep watching that so somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

I also know the show writers like troll all of us.

I was mad when they left us hanging last season but I was alright with it too. I would have been much more aggravated had they made us wait this long to kill off somebody like Eugene and Sasha or somebody like that.
 
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bamawriter said:
Okay. Even if the writers felt it was necessary to go with an extra death and the near-amputation, the whole bit with the ax was utterly pointless. That went nowhere, and it was 1/3 of the runtime.
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So if you are truly a bama writer, you have had to dumb down your writing for your bama constituency for so long that you evidently caught the dumbs as well.

The ax was symbolic. If you couldn't follow the symbolism and how it affected Rick, well maybe just maybe you should move on to a simpler show. At the very least quit posting in this thread...

:hi:
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
So.....eventually it's gonna happen....but whom is going to be the one that kills Negan?
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Combo: call the episode "Girls' Night"

Maggie
Rosita
Sasha

Take turns beating Negan to death with Lucille.
But they start with hands and feet, then wrists and ankles, knees and elbows, then nads,
Then very slowly his head, but pluck out his eye and make him eat it first...

All this with ghostly images of Glenn and Abraham smiling and nodding a la Yoda and Obiwan

:)

( that is just spur of the moment, sure that I could be much more gruesome given a little time)


It could take an entire episode... :)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
So if you are truly a bama writer, you have had to dumb down your writing for your bama constituency for so long that you evidently caught the dumbs as well.

The ax was symbolic. If you couldn't follow the symbolism and how it affected Rick, well maybe just maybe you should move on to a simpler show. At the very least quit posting in this thread...

:hi:
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Yes it was symbolism. It was also 1/3 of the runtime while the entire rest of the show was the character doing the same thing without the symbolism. That's exactly why it was pointless.

"Did you catch the thinly-veiled metaphor with the ax? You did? Well screw you we're going to threaten an amputation anyway."
 
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I still think they went with the cliff hanger to gauge the audience and what they expected/demanded. I don't have any faith that this writing staff isn't lazy as **** with some of the crap they put on screen in the past.
 
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