The Weekly/BiWeekly School Shooting Thread

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luthervol said:
That's almost Q-level absurd.
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says the guy claiming lowered respect for public education is the direct result of a "concerted effort over 30 years" by the right wing to diminish it. That's some serious long range strategizing to put together a plan that will last 30+ years.
 
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luthervol said:
Looks like they are going to charge the parents for not keeping the gun secure and the ammunition separate.

Good, about time.
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Did this happen in Canada? Wonder what would happen if he stole his parents car and wrecked and killed someone.
 
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luthervol said:
Good for him on raising the education $. I guess he's not all bad.
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He’s not bad at all. He’s a great governor. He’s just very right wing and logical. A lot of people want him to run for president but I hope he doesn’t because correct me if I’m wrong, once you (as a governor) enter the presidential race, you’re no longer the governor of your state, win or lose.
 
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C-south said:
Did this happen in Canada? Wonder what would happen if he stole his parents car and wrecked and killed someone.
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Nothing. There is no law requiring one to keep a car locked away and the keys and gas locked in separate locations.
 
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1vol8 said:
He’s not bad at all. He’s a great governor. He’s just very right wing and logical. A lot of people want him to run for president but I hope he doesn’t because correct me if I’m wrong, once you (as a governor) enter the presidential race, you’re no longer the governor of your state, win or lose.
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I'm not sure how that works.
 
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luthervol said:
Nothing. There is no law requiring one to keep a car locked away and the keys and gas locked in separate locations.
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There’s not one for guns either, at least in most states. I don’t think Michigan is one of them. He’s being charged as an adult, so you’re saying his parents are being charged as accomplices? If not he should be charged with stealing property and the horrific crimes he committed on his own.
 
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C-south said:
There’s not one for guns either, at least in most states. I don’t think Michigan is one of them. He’s being charged as an adult, so you’re saying his parents are being charged as accomplices? If not he should be charged with stealing property and the horrific crimes he committed on his own.
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The weapon authorities said was used in the shooting, a 9mm Sig Sauer SP2022 semiautomatic pistol, was purchased by Crumbley's father on Friday, four days before shots rang out at the school, Bouchard said.
Authorities are considering charges against both parents, with McDonald saying a decision would be made on that "swiftly." The potential charges stem from the parents owning a gun. McDonald said that means securing it properly, ensuring ammunition is kept separate, among other legal responsibilities.
"We have to hold individuals accountable who don't do that," she said.
 
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luthervol said:
The weapon authorities said was used in the shooting, a 9mm Sig Sauer SP2022 semiautomatic pistol, was purchased by Crumbley's father on Friday, four days before shots rang out at the school, Bouchard said.
Authorities are considering charges against both parents, with McDonald saying a decision would be made on that "swiftly." The potential charges stem from the parents owning a gun. McDonald said that means securing it properly, ensuring ammunition is kept separate, among other legal responsibilities.
"We have to hold individuals accountable who don't do that," she said.
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Not sure about Michigan law. It’s pointless own a firearm for self defense if you’re hamstrung from having realistic access to it should that situation arise. Luckily it’s a nonissue here and most places. Gun fear mongers (idiot liberals) are always trying to pass blame to as many people as possible instead of the actual criminals. If he’s being charged as an adult then he should be solely to blame.
 
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luthervol said:
The weapon authorities said was used in the shooting, a 9mm Sig Sauer SP2022 semiautomatic pistol, was purchased by Crumbley's father on Friday, four days before shots rang out at the school, Bouchard said.
Authorities are considering charges against both parents, with McDonald saying a decision would be made on that "swiftly." The potential charges stem from the parents owning a gun. McDonald said that means securing it properly, ensuring ammunition is kept separate, among other legal responsibilities.
"We have to hold individuals accountable who don't do that," she said.
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https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/msp-203_-_PDF_286476_7.pdf
 
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luthervol said:
The weapon authorities said was used in the shooting, a 9mm Sig Sauer SP2022 semiautomatic pistol, was purchased by Crumbley's father on Friday, four days before shots rang out at the school, Bouchard said.
Authorities are considering charges against both parents, with McDonald saying a decision would be made on that "swiftly." The potential charges stem from the parents owning a gun. McDonald said that means securing it properly, ensuring ammunition is kept separate, among other legal responsibilities.
"We have to hold individuals accountable who don't do that," she said.
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I think it’s an old law that parents are responsible for their kids actions under the age of 18. However, it seems to be loosely applied these days. Seems Rittenhouses dad would’ve gotten locked up himself as well if it were applied the way it used to be?
 
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#239
#239
luthervol said:
Thanks.
"Both the ammunition and the firearm should be stored in a safe place out of the reach of children. You may be criminally and civilly liable for any harm caused by a person less than 18 years of age who lawfully gains unsupervised access to your firearm if unlawfully stored"
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Pretty vague recommendations. If a gun is being used for home/self defense shouldn’t it be always considered “in use”. I guess they can’t try him as an adult either based on the law.
 
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1vol8 said:
But you learned cursive first to give you a base to start from to make it legible. Correct?
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Nothing legible about my signature except the first letter, which is definitely not in cursive. I agree with @utvolpj that when I'm taking notes, I usually print. It's not very legible for anybody except me, but it's quicker.
 
#246
#246
1vol8 said:
It’s funny. Right before the message parlor in Atlanta I was telling my best friend “I wouldn’t be surprised if a mass shooting happens using an AR-15 soon because the Biden administration needs something to happen because of how hard they’re pushing for them “. It wasn’t a week later.
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Timed events, just like viruses.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Nothing legible about my signature except the first letter, which is definitely not in cursive. I agree with @utvolpj that when I'm taking notes, I usually print. It's not very legible for anybody except me, but it's quicker.
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If you don’t mind, tell us how old you are. Maybe you both went through school at the time cursive was being wedded out and therefore didn’t learn it the way some of us others did. I can confidently say that cursive is 1/3 faster to write than print even though I don’t use it. So maybe you guys are just younger or cursive was never your thing. Nevertheless, it was thought because it was proven to be faster and therefore NOT useless.
 
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1vol8 said:
If you don’t mind, tell us how old you are. Maybe you both went through school at the time cursive was being wedded out and therefore didn’t learn it the way some of us others did. I can confidently say that cursive is 1/3 faster to write than print even though I don’t use it. So maybe you guys are just younger or cursive was never your thing. Nevertheless, it was thought because it was proven to be faster and therefore NOT useless.
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I'm a man, I'm 40.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Nothing legible about my signature except the first letter, which is definitely not in cursive. I agree with @utvolpj that when I'm taking notes, I usually print. It's not very legible for anybody except me, but it's quicker.
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Actually, I figured out a better way of putting it. I took shop class in school but I’m not a carpenter. Never have been. However the education of shop class made me more attentive to detail when I am working with wood. If I “need” to build something I absolutely can and have. Cursive is the same way. Just because YOU don’t use it doesn’t mean it’s useless. There may come a time where it would come in handy if you were proficient at it. The uneducated don’t have that option now.
 
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