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#127
#127
85SugarVol said:
Where on Earth did they learn that behavior?
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I see the similarities from the crazies on both ends of the spectrum. It once was that the crazies were made up by the extreme 1-2% of each end. It has grown to where now the crazies are up to about 10% on the left extreme and and 20% on the right extreme.
 
#128
#128
luthervol said:
I see the similarities from the crazies on both ends of the spectrum. It once was that the crazies were made up by the extreme 1-2% of each end. It has grown to where now the crazies are up to about 10% on the left extreme and and 20% on the right extreme.
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Those 10% on the right control the party and control education. Are you really denying the impact of critical theory (cultural Marxism) on American education?
 
#129
#129
luthervol said:
I see the similarities from the crazies on both ends of the spectrum. It once was that the crazies were made up by the extreme 1-2% of each end. It has grown to where now the crazies are up to about 10% on the left extreme and and 20% on the right extreme.
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Where do you come up with these percentages?
 
#131
#131
Vol8188 said:
Those 10% on the right control the party and control education. Are you really denying the impact of critical theory (cultural Marxism) on American education?
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Take what you have been conditioned to think the level of impact is and divide it by 20.
 
#132
#132
luthervol said:
People intent on wreaking havoc will use whatever is available that will wreak the most havoc.
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Thousands of interactions over decades.
Plus hundreds of conversations with others in a position to know.
 
#133
#133
luthervol said:
Take what you have been conditioned to think the level of impact is and divide it by 20.
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So we agree it does have a real impact and that things such as CRT are in education?

earlier you were talking about the lack of respect for teachers. A lot of that stems from this. The idea that we can’t have discipline in schools because it will end in disparities
 
#136
#136
Vol8188 said:
So we agree it does have a real impact and that things such as CRT are in education?

earlier you were talking about the lack of respect for teachers. A lot of that stems from this. The idea that we can’t have discipline in schools because it will end in disparities
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About to the same level it has impacted education and what is taught for the past 5 thousand years.
Can't have discipline because is will end it disparities? What does that mean.
 
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#139
luthervol said:
About to the same level it has impacted education and what is taught for the past 5 thousand years.
Can't have discipline because is will end it disparities? What does that mean.
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Idk how you don’t understand what that means. Schools are going out of their way to limit suspensions, referrals, etc. A lot of this motivation is due to racial disparities. How are you unaware of this?
 
#141
#141
luthervol said:
Have kids walking the halls openly carrying. That will fix it.

-utvolpj.......and every other gun nut

But yes, it's a damn shame.......as a nation, we are insane.
-luther
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No. The simple fact is evil exists. There are over 20,000 gun laws. Yet shootings and unnecessary murder happen everyday. You are not taking all guns out of circulation.
 
#142
#142
hog88 said:
So we agree that it's a people problem and not a gun problem.
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No, and the reason is that the people problem is known and cannot be fixed. People are mentally ill and teens are adolescents. The fact that those things cause them to be violent doesn't mean we ignore the mechanism of their violence that is so lethal, so fast.
 
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#143
lawgator1 said:
No, and the reason is that the people problem is known and cannot be fixed. People are mentally ill and teens are adolescents. The fact that those things cause them to be violent doesn't mean we ignore the mechanism of their violence that is so lethal, so fast.
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Then what is it? Some people will continue to be mentally ill and teens have always been adolescents regardless of time period. The people of today combined with their mindset is the problem. Guns have been available for centuries.
 
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#145
lawgator1 said:
No, and the reason is that the people problem is known and cannot be fixed. People are mentally ill and teens are adolescents. The fact that those things cause them to be violent doesn't mean we ignore the mechanism of their violence that is so lethal, so fast.
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Why are we seeing so much mental illness these days compared to the past?
Why can't that be fixed? It's a pretty new phenomenon so I would think fixing it is doable.
 
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#146
#146
luthervol said:
One of the biggest changes is the public's loss of respect and support for public education. There has been a concerted effort over the past 30+ years by the right to portray public education (government schools as one idiot always made it a point to call them) in the worst possible light. As a result, respect for teachers and the educational process is at an all time low. The days of most parents siding with the school or believing the teacher are over. Today, the first response for many is to defend the kid and immediately accuse the school/teacher of some type of wrongdoing. Students know this and play it to the hilt. The degree to which students are able to manipulate their parents is astonishing.
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Perhaps parents lost some respect for teachers when they started teaching garbage in schools instead of teaching students the basic fundamental skills necessary to function in the real world after leaving the school environment.

Civics, without political bias injection, would be great so folks have a clue as to how the election process and our government were created to work.

Basic math skills would be awesome so the cashier can count actually money without relying on the cash register.

History that discusses actual historical events with their cause and effects on the country and world that’s void of ideological twisting could be beneficial.

Proper grammar and spelling would be a treat to encounter and let’s not forget science so perhaps a true understanding of how viruses naturally evolve after emergence and how true vaccines were created in response.
 
#147
#147
Vol8188 said:
Idk how you don’t understand what that means. Schools are going out of their way to limit suspensions, referrals, etc. A lot of this motivation is due to racial disparities. How are you unaware of this?
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You might want to check your sources on that one.
 
#148
#148
BigOrangeTrain said:
No. The simple fact is evil exists. There are over 20,000 gun laws. Yet shootings and unnecessary murder happen everyday. You are not taking all guns out of circulation.
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I operate under this simple truth:
Our country would have been better off had 15 million guns been sold in 2020 rather than 23 million.
 
#149
#149
luthervol said:
I operate under this simple truth:
Our country would have been better off had 15 million guns been sold in 2020 rather than 23 million.
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That's an opinion not a truth. For example, if one of those cancelled sales was one I purchased then your truth is completely false
 
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#150
#150
luthervol said:
You might want to check your sources on that one.
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So to be sure I’m understanding you agree there’s a push to limit school discipline but you believe it’s unrelated to race?

You do know the naacp has sued multiple school districts due to racial disparities in discipline right?
 
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