The Win over South Carolina Looks pretty good

[sjt18]

I don't think you caught my sarcasm. I'm not saying there shouldn't be an attempt to find a consensus middle, but every single thread on here seems to eventually devolve from the subject matter to bad coaching and the loss to Vandy. TBH, it gets really old, tiring, and boring.

So does the constant chant that a lack of talent was the only cause for this year's results.

 

[jeffmcflurry27]

Save yourself some time and just credit Marquez North.

What about Palardy or the play of the entire ST?

What about Worley and his ability to manage the game well?

What about the defense playing a solid game?

It was a team win and for the record, that final catch by North was a perfect pass with Clowney in Worleys face and with perfect coverage by the DB.

 

[Rockytoptalker]

What about Palardy or the play of the entire ST?

What about Worley and his ability to manage the game well?

What about the defense playing a solid game?

It was a team win and for the record, that final catch by North was a perfect pass with Clowney in Worleys face and with perfect coverage by the DB.

So what you're saying is that they were coached well?

 

[KBVol]

A thread started to do that invites criticism of the poorly coached games. You can't have 5 or 6 poor coaching efforts, start a thread about the one good win, and expect no response.

Why? I can look at this thread and say "yep, that was an outstanding win, job well done done by all, especially with how SCar ended the season", without having to immediately try and "balance" the discussion.

Just like if you started a thread about how awful our passing game was vs Vandy that cost us an incredibly meaningful game. I could, and would very easily respond to and agree with that thread without invoking the SCar or any other game that UT won.

 

[tim]

Was the greatest win since 2009 maybe. Butches coaches game planned well and we had just enough talent to eek out a win. Heres to more coaching and more talent!

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

So what you're saying is that they were coached well?

No. That's not what he said. Hold on, let me read it again to make sure.......yeah, still no. He said a lot of players played well, but that can't be right because all of the players on this team suck according to many of their fans.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

Yes he can. He was talking only about the SCar game. You can separate the two....one wasn't dependent on the other.

I can say that the team was very well coached, played with great intensity, made clutch plays, had their most experienced QB under center and beat a top 10 team. Great job by the coaching staff. That game was great.

I can then, separate from the SCar game, discuss the vanderbilt game which was arguably the most disappointing game of the season because our offense, in particular the passing game was completely inept, we had a couple of unforgivable special teams breakdowns, and our defense, which had kept us in the game all day, folded like a cheap tent on the last drive when it was time to win the game. Bad overall job by the coaching staff, in particular those responsible for the passing game... Bajakian and Azzani, and Jones. That game was awful.

Solid post.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Worley has proven in every game he played in that he sucks man. He almost blew the SC game multiple times. Worley would of had 3 picks if he played all UF.

You say he sucks I say hes the best qb on the roster and was under center when we had the most important win in about 4 years. So ill take him over anyone else I've seen. I'm not saying hes gonna be playing on Sundays but hes our best option.

 

[Wylo]

And you want to inflate the Vandy loss whilst minimizing the signature win...equally typical
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I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

 

[tim]

I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

AT what point in the game did Shaw get injured? And... What option was Dobbs? 2,3,4?

 

[volgrad500]

I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

To me, that is what a lot of people forget. USC never even got a first down once he went out lol.

 

[Wylo]

AT what point in the game did Shaw get injured? And... What option was Dobbs? 2,3,4?

Shaw got hurt in crunch time. During all the 3 and outs UT had, surely you realize that Shaw could have closed UT out.

But I guess the best staff in America couldn't overcome the loss of 1 player in the first half vs Vandy. Oh, even though Vandy lost most of their starting db's...

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Shaw got hurt in crunch time. During all the 3 and outs UT had, surely you realize that Shaw could have closed UT out.

But I guess the best staff in America couldn't overcome the loss of 1 player in the first half vs Vandy. Oh, even though Vandy lost most of their starting db's...

We were already playing our co 3rd string QB and that one player you mentioned was our biggest threat at WR. Dobbs wasn't having his best day at QB that day before North was hurt. After he went out some of the other WRs had some big drops where the ball literally hit them in the hands and they didn't make the catch. Guess that was on the coaches too.

 

[1972 Grad]

You say he sucks I say hes the best qb on the roster and was under center when we had the most important win in about 4 years. So ill take him over anyone else I've seen. I'm not saying hes gonna be playing on Sundays but hes our best option.

I think that some of the credit for beating So. Carolina should go to Worley's improved play. He was no doubt motivated because he is from So. Carolina and was not wanted by the Gamecocks.

 

[Rockytoptalker]

No. That's not what he said. Hold on, let me read it again to make sure.......yeah, still no. He said a lot of players played well, but that can't be right because all of the players on this team suck according to many of their fans.

Yea because Palardy's play this year had NOTHING to do with coaching.

So yea, hold on, still yea.

 

[butchna]

I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

Shame their hack of a coach couldn't adjust in such an easily winnable game
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[thadolphinman]

Shaw was out for a play and a series in which they were winning the game with little time left in the game. Guess what Spurrier would have done if Shaw was in the game? Run the ball and make Tennessee use their timeouts. It wasn't like they were down by a touchdown and had to bring a backup in to win it. I have no doubt in my mind that even with Shaw in the game, Spurrier would have still run the ball three times and punted the ball.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

I guess you forgot we had our 3rd string quarterback in?

I guess you forgot we would've won without one clipping call?

I guess you forgot we won the game until they overturned the 4th down call (which has happened to us more times the past few years than it should have)?

So you're saying they were coached poorly? That the coaching staff couldn't prepare a back up qb over the course of several weeks including a bye week against an injury riddled secondary? That our staff can't convey not to block if you can read the player's name? That's interesting coming from you bro. Don't be so negative.

 

[KBVol]

I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

No, what and the other haters do is go away, go silent, go dark when anything positive like the the SCar win happens, etc. Then when the Auburn or Vanderbilt losses happen you're everywhere taking shots, criticizing any and everything you can.

I've had no problem praising the South Carolina win and I've had no problem criticizing the Vandy debacle. Any fan can do both pretty easily. And most have.

 

[tim]

Shaw got hurt in crunch time. During all the 3 and outs UT had, surely you realize that Shaw could have closed UT out.

But I guess the best staff in America couldn't overcome the loss of 1 player in the first half vs Vandy. Oh, even though Vandy lost most of their starting db's...

Soo..The best qb coach in the SEC didnt have his back up qb ready? Do you see what a flimsy argument you and stdouche have? Injuries are game changers. ESPECIALLY on a team with a thin roster and walk ons playing critical positions.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

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[BigOrangeTrain]

I disagree. But I gave you a like for using "whilst."

the signature win is lessened by the utter garbage of the Vandy debacle.

You guys say that "UT always plays SC and Georgia close."

Then you act like Butch won the SEC by beating USCe with their qb out injured in crunch time. You like to point to UT losing their top WR against Vandy and use that as a crutch, but you say that Shaw getting hurt didn't cripple USCe.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth.

Ok so Shaw got a little dinged up in the last 5 minutes right? Ok I will give you that. So what is your excuse for Shaw playing like crap in the first half? Answer? There isn't one. Our defense stopped him again and again. Shaw had plenty of chances to put the game out of reach in the first half and couldn't do it with ALL of their players healthy.

North got injured early in the first quarter. Shaw played 3&3/4 of the game. HUGE DIFFERENCE. Your argument just failed.

 

[Wylo]

Ok so Shaw got a little dinged up in the last 5 minutes right? Ok I will give you that. So what is your excuse for Shaw playing like crap in the first half? Answer? There isn't one. Our defense stopped him again and again. Shaw had plenty of chances to put the game out of reach in the first half and couldn't do it with ALL of their players healthy.

North got injured early in the first quarter. Shaw played 3&3/4 of the game. HUGE DIFFERENCE. Your argument just failed.

Shaw played bad and still had the lead when he got hurt. my argument is valid.

a wr alone shouldn't decide a game when you have the best staff in America... right?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Shaw played bad and still had the lead when he got hurt. my argument is valid.

a wr alone shouldn't decide a game when you have the best staff in America... right?

No your argument is invalid because your assumption is that if Shaw wasn't a little dinged up, he would have put the game away. Our defense played a good game and could have stopped him.

So you took Jones literally when he said best staff in America? lol:lol: Seriously man you need help. That was coach speak. What was he supposed to say? Well my staff is just decent? Good Lord. He said that to fire everybody up.

So apparently losing your best offensive player makes no difference right? So it shouldn't have mattered that Shaw was a little banged up then. See how stupid your logic is?

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

I agree. They beat Mizzou and Clemson. I think that game shows that Butch and our staff has what it takes to win and win big. They just need a few new horses.

While I hate to use these round about comparisons, I'll take it in this case. I think k this cancels out the " lack of talent" argument. We have the talent and skills right now to be a SEC championship team. We lack is consistency at the coaching to allow player development. Once we are off the coaching merry-go-round, we will be a solid team.