The Worst Firing In Sports History Was

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Gramps said:
Have a good day.

It is obvious you choose to overlook reality.

I give Fulmer praise where it is due. I give Fulmer blame when it is warranted.

The facts are Fulmer did a great job then he did a bad job.
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Sorry Gramps. His full-house beats your two-of-a-kind.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Midpack? He finished 1st or 2nd in the division in 4 of the 7 years from 2002 to the end.

On top? It took Florida 10 years to win the big one (people fired Fulmer when he didn't win another in 10 years). Florida went to the SECCG 3 times from 2000-08, same as Tennessee. Florida finished 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 1st in the East from 2001-08. Florida had multiple 8-5 records in there, etc.

The fact is it was down from where Fulmer brought them up, but it was never down in regards to the history like you and others make it out to be.
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Uh---how many times did CPF beat Meyer? And you seem to be forgetting that Fla won 2 National Championships between 2006 and 2008....CPF choked on his chance in the 2001 SEC CG...and wasn't even close again...It's a dead argument....I respect CPF & anyone who won 152 games in the SEC...but he got arrogant and his ignorance (hiring Clawson) did him in...and he needed to go....
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Uh---how many times did CPF beat Meyer? And you seem to be forgetting that Fla won 2 National Championships between 2006 and 2008....CPF choked on his chance in the 2001 SEC CG...and wasn't even close again...It's a dead argument....I respect CPF & anyone who won 152 games in the SEC...but he got arrogant and his ignorance (hiring Clawson) did him in...and he needed to go....
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Needed to go for what? Bringing the Vols to consistent 9+ win seasons, and then having some 8 win seasons multiple years, with a couple crap ones? He had 2 awful years (which one loss in one season wouldn't have happened if he wasn't fired when he was, in turn being bowl eligible all but one year), most likely would've fired Clawson after that one year, would've brought in Tajh Boyd (who I have no doubt would've won about 5 more games with the surrounding cast than Bray did over the past 3 years), and had more stability regarding in bringing in better classes. People act like 8-4 seasons were unheard of in UTs history, when in fact they were the norm for the majority of it. People got spoiled with what he did, then felt like they were entitled to everything.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Needed to go for what? Bringing the Vols to consistent 9+ win seasons, and then having some 8 win seasons multiple years, with a couple crap ones? He had 2 awful years (which one loss in one season wouldn't have happened if he wasn't fired when he was, in turn being bowl eligible all but one year), most likely would've fired Clawson after that one year, would've brought in Tajh Boyd (who I have no doubt would've won about 5 more games with the surrounding cast than Bray did over the past 3 years), and had more stability regarding in bringing in better classes. People act like 8-4 seasons were unheard of in UTs history, when in fact they were the norm for the majority of it. People got spoiled with what he did, then felt like they were entitled to everything.
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You cannot just look at our record those last few years under Fulmer. You have to look at how we were competing against the teams that mattered. It was extremely obvious to everyone that we didn't even look like we belonged on the field sometimes. Those Florida, Bama, and Georgia losses in 08 were awful! Plus the fact that we managed to lose to one of the worst, most depleted UCLA teams in their history on national TV was an embarrassment! It had become crystal clear that Fulmer was being out worked, out coached, and out recruited by the newer, younger coaches that had come into the league.
 
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Gramps said:
The fact is in 2000 TN was one of the very elite programs in the nation. When Fulmer was fired in 2008 the program had fell to an average mid pack SEC team That is fact.
You can make any excuse you choose to make but the facts are Fulmer let the program take a huge downturn.

In regard to your post. I ask you one question.

Florida was a midpack program until Spurrier turned it into a powerhouse.
It was on top when he quit. Myers continued the winning tradition, now Muschamp is continuing the tradition.
Why hasn't Florida fell back to mediocrity?
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Because Foley didn't hire Dooley
 
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Tennsolider1 said:
They say PAT SUMMIT stepped down or was forced out. To me she was made to do it so to me that's firing.
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I think this may have been done to protect Pat due to her health. She is still involved to an extent. I have no inside info on the situation but I assume this may have been an agreement by the university and Pats family. I cannot see anyone at the university disrespecting Pat in any way. She is a living legend.
 
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volfanecs said:
Jerry Jones firing Jimmy Johnson as the Dallas Cowboys coach.

The second happened in Knoxville.

Before this is merged, Happy Thanksgiving to all the good folks of VN.
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Come on man...

Phil deserved to be fired.. It was handled badly though..

People around here have such a hard time letting go... SMH
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
You cannot just look at our record those last few years under Fulmer. You have to look at how we were competing against the teams that mattered. It was extremely obvious to everyone that we didn't even look like we belonged on the field sometimes. Those Florida, Bama, and Georgia losses in 08 were awful! Plus the fact that we managed to lose to one of the worst, most depleted UCLA teams in their history on national TV was an embarrassment! It had become crystal clear that Fulmer was being out worked, out coached, and out recruited by the newer, younger coaches that had come into the league.
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By that logic, we should've fired Kiffin after his one year if given the opportunity because he lost to the same terrible UCLA team AT HOME, and then lost to an Auburn team as bad as this one AT HOME. Regarding the recruiting, you can't say that if we traded Bray for Boyd, there wouldn't have been about 5 more wins over the past few years. That one recruit is enough to say that Fulmer was doing alright. Not great, but good enough to be given the chance to turn it around.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
You cannot just look at our record those last few years under Fulmer. You have to look at how we were competing against the teams that mattered. It was extremely obvious to everyone that we didn't even look like we belonged on the field sometimes. Those Florida, Bama, and Georgia losses in 08 were awful! Plus the fact that we managed to lose to one of the worst, most depleted UCLA teams in their history on national TV was an embarrassment! It had become crystal clear that Fulmer was being out worked, out coached, and out recruited by the newer, younger coaches that had come into the league.
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And he played Saban, what, 4 times total? Was 1-3 against him? 0-2 while he was at Bama? Do you not realize how streaky that series is?
 
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Slydell said:
The biggest thing I remember was that I had been a Cowboy fan for life and Landry was my coach. Then, this ignorant and arrogant ******* came in and fired him. I lasted a few more years watching the NFL and finally quit it all together around '92. Landry is now dead and still loved by many and Jones is still a fat ass ignorant arrogant *******.

Yeah, not too many ways to gracefully fire someone.
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Jerry Jones bought the team fair and square for a cool $140 million. He has every right to run his team into the ground. :banghead2:

For the record, I grew up a Cowboys fan and threw in the towel at about the same time.
 
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90 Vol said:
Jerry Jones bought the team fair and square for a cool $140 million. He has every right to run his team into the ground. :banghead2:

For the record, I grew up a Cowboys fan and threw in the towel at about the same time.
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I grew up as a Cowboy fan too. All of Texas wanted Coach Landry replaced....until it happened the way it did. Sound familiar???
 
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