This one is on Barnes

#76
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cncchris33 said:
How is that on Barnes??? Barnes jumped all over Phillips for not taking the shot.
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So somebody put a kid on the floor that didnt know what to do. Who was that? A player that the play was DESIGNED to go to. A player that doesnt know to score in that situation? Who shouldve made SURE he knew what the time and situation called for? A coach maybe? ****.
 
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JBD_Vol said:
Some say it is on a player, but why was Tennessee anywhere close to the commode doors regarding score?

Why is the supposedly number 6 team in the country playing close games with teams with which it should not be anywhere near playing close games?

Some will say it happens, but does it happen so consistently with very good to great teams?

Why is it always the players when one did not perform at the end and the coach evidently pointed out to him and thus, the rest of the world? Where was the coaching many times this season when 3 pointers would not go down?

If it is lack of inside players, why can the right inside players not be brought in? This is a great staff correct?


Maybe it is just a good way to make money until retirement and hey, it's better than any other coach we had except one, but we're not North Carolina so I guess we should just suck it up.
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Seriously? A top 10 team in a tight game? Happens EVERY week. Literally. Good teams dunk the ball and finish a close win.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
What exactly might he more explicit about. “Put the round object through the circle?” It’s a pretty simple scenario. Phillips either just froze, or genuinely didn’t expect to be open. It’s one play. He choked. Some of our best players played worse than Phillips tonight. He actually found some scoring space inside and at the elbow. Awaka had a nice game too. Key shot well. Vandy played the game of the season. They shot well, defended pretty well, and made a play at the end. We didn’t. While Phillips could’ve put it away, we didn’t really deserve to win tonight. Team loss. Get over it. More big games coming up.
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Pretty sure he froze, if you watch the play he is driving to the basket then hesitates then tries to dribble out. He had a clear dunk.
 
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cgrish said:
I think what he is trying to say is did Barnes tell them not to shoot, but run the clock.
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Actually no, I don’t think in that particular instance he told Phillips not to shoot. But I’m just frustrated that he doesn’t play a far more aggressive offensive style - it’s fine when you don’t have talent but we have decent offensive talent on this team.
 
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Imo, Barnes needs to start standing outside the box crying and screaming at the refs all game. It gets results. We have a troubling foul/free throw disparity trend brewing tbh. It has been coupled with more 2pt FGA, rebounding, and TO advantage as well. I want one of those 39-14 home whistle advantages A&M got yesterday when we face Missouri.
 
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JBD_Vol said:
And how many games has Alabama blown or barely won this year against lackluster opponents as well as other great teams in the past except occasionally, d***cheese?

Keep hanging on his n**ts, boy.

We now have a consistent NCAA one or 2 and out with an exception maybe every once in a while. But hey, that's great since we have had pretty bad or terrible coaching except while we had a very good coach who was not at North Carolina and then for a year with luck and another coaches players and now we have a good one that may get us to the sweet 16 maybe.

Please give us a lesson on non-generic questions if you can quit hangin for a minute.
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So basically you ask a question, I give you the answer and in typical fashion you move the goalposts.

Just start with the pissing and moaning about Barnes and drop the acting like you actually know jack about college basketball.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
Actually no, I don’t think in that particular instance he told Phillips not to shoot. But I’m just frustrated that he doesn’t play a far more aggressive offensive style - it’s fine when you don’t have talent but we have decent offensive talent on this team.
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Have you not seen the streaks of bad offensive execution this team has had? "Decent offensive talent" doesn't go cold like these guys do so often.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Have you not seen the streaks of bad offensive execution this team has had? "Decent offensive talent" doesn't go cold like these guys do so often.
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Can’t explain it. I do think we have better than average offensive skills. But right now, we are hideous on the offensive side.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
Actually no, I don’t think in that particular instance he told Phillips not to shoot. But I’m just frustrated that he doesn’t play a far more aggressive offensive style - it’s fine when you don’t have talent but we have decent offensive talent on this team.
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That "decent offensive talent" went 0 for 5 in a 4:40 stretch tonight late in the 2nd half. Had a 3:00 drought in the first half.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So basically you ask a question, I give you the answer and in typical fashion you move the goalposts.

Just start with the pissing and moaning about Barnes and drop the acting like you actually know jack about college basketball.
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It would be great if you would answer the questions. The goalposts were not moved. You simply cannot answer the questions and used a dumb move to try and get out. There is no answer on the consistent issues that the coach has had at this school. Yes, others have done so at this school as pointed out, but you cannot explain why over this coach's tenure, this has happened pretty darn often.

I understand you like him better than basically all the others except 1 in my opinion. Who doesn't? However, that is not what my comments were about. Again, you cannot answer the questions so you dismiss them.

Everybody who pays a bit of attention to basketball or other sports can see that great coaching gets consistently good results with good talent and does not see let downs too often.

Nevertheless, go ahead and feel great about yourself and ignore the the thread, but you are not answering why such a talented team often has problems finishing, which is winning. You have 69,000+ plus posts of your great knowledge. Please dispense it instead of blaming others for you not answering.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
Barnes drew up a play that got his player a free dunk and he doesn't shoot. Barnes calls timeout to save his team from 5 second violation. We get the ball to our best free throw shooter in our last possession. Don't see how this is on Barnes..
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When Philips received the ball, he dribbled right in front of Barnes. Barnes could have yelled at him to ice it. We will not know until Barnes tells us. To protect his player, he
probably should fess up so Philips wont be criticized.
 
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TooLegit2Quit said:
Imo, Barnes needs to start standing outside the box crying and screaming at the refs all game. It gets results. We have a troubling foul/free throw disparity trend brewing tbh. It has been coupled with more 2pt FGA, rebounding, and TO advantage as well. I want one of those 39-14 home whistle advantages A&M got yesterday when we face Missouri.
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Game I watched he was. Didn't help.
 
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#94
This is the first time I really feel embarrassed after a loss under Barnes. Maybe it's just a mid-season funk we can pull out of ... but man, we are really stinking it up right now.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
Sure, I am probably too optimistic given how well they played earlier in the season. If they play under 500 ball the rest of the season with the same issues, then I’ll admit that.
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They have 17 games out of 25 (including the Gonzaga exhibition) where they've scored 70+, 12 where they've scored 75+, and 8 where they've scored 80+. Scoring high numbers has been an issue all year.
 
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jeff1vol said:
So somebody put a kid on the floor that didnt know what to do. Who was that? A player that the play was DESIGNED to go to. A player that doesnt know to score in that situation? Who shouldve made SURE he knew what the time and situation called for? A coach maybe? ****.
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You really want these 5* kids coddled in February of their freshman year, don't you? That's pathetic if you think that a guy who's played as much basketball as Julian Phillips, a high-level D1 player, has to be told so explicitly how to play the game.

Take the thinking out of it, and then in that instance, isn't the most natural reaction to score? It seems like it would take more analytical thinking to decide it was in your team's best interest not to score.

Why should the coach have to say, "Now Julian, we are running a play designed to get you the ball with a free run at the rim. So here's what I want you to do...and stick with me for a second...I need you to put the round ball thru the round cylinder. And you know...we get two points for that. You think you got it? Now remember, I want you to score, ok!"

Give me a break.
 
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EtowahVol said:
Phillips had the shot but didn't take it to run the clock. Good job Team. good hustle and got mauled the whole second half.
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It’s most definitely is not on Barnes. Barnes even yelled at Phillips when he had wide open dunk and didn’t take it. But then Vescovi had a 1 and 1 free throw and couldn’t hit 1. Last time I checked Barnes was out of playing eligibility.
 
#98
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cncchris33 said:
You really want these 5* kids coddled in February of their freshman year, don't you? That's pathetic if you think that a guy who's played as much basketball as Julian Phillips, a high-level D1 player, has to be told so explicitly how to play the game.

Take the thinking out of it, and then in that instance, isn't the most natural reaction to score? It seems like it would take more analytical thinking to decide it was in your team's best interest not to score.

Why should the coach have to say, "Now Julian, we are running a play designed to get you the ball with a free run at the rim. So here's what I want you to do...and stick with me for a second...I need you to put the round ball thru the round cylinder. And you know...we get two points for that. You think you got it? Now remember, I want you to score, ok!"

Give me a break.
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And don't forget to dribble after you catch the ball!
 
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cncchris33 said:
You really want these 5* kids coddled in February of their freshman year, don't you? That's pathetic if you think that a guy who's played as much basketball as Julian Phillips, a high-level D1 player, has to be told so explicitly how to play the game.

Take the thinking out of it, and then in that instance, isn't the most natural reaction to score? It seems like it would take more analytical thinking to decide it was in your team's best interest not to score.

Why should the coach have to say, "Now Julian, we are running a play designed to get you the ball with a free run at the rim. So here's what I want you to do...and stick with me for a second...I need you to put the round ball thru the round cylinder. And you know...we get two points for that. You think you got it? Now remember, I want you to score, ok!"

Give me a break.
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It’s funny around here…the same people who complain about coach worshippers do the exact opposite. Criticize everything, even making illogical arguments.
 
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JBD_Vol said:
It would be great if you would answer the questions. The goalposts were not moved. You simply cannot answer the questions and used a dumb move to try and get out. There is no answer on the consistent issues that the coach has had at this school. Yes, others have done so at this school as pointed out, but you cannot explain why over this coach's tenure, this has happened pretty darn often.

I understand you like him better than basically all the others except 1 in my opinion. Who doesn't? However, that is not what my comments were about. Again, you cannot answer the questions so you dismiss them.

Everybody who pays a bit of attention to basketball or other sports can see that great coaching gets consistently good results with good talent and does not see let downs too often.

Nevertheless, go ahead and feel great about yourself and ignore the the thread, but you are not answering why such a talented team often has problems finishing, which is winning. You have 69,000+ plus posts of your great knowledge. Please dispense it instead of blaming others for you not answering.
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You asked why a team like UT was so close with a team like Vandy, why the #6 team struggled with bad teams, etc. And you being such a basketball genius, then you should already know as I pointed out that the supposed #3 team in the nation got their ass kicked by a meh Oklahoma team. Or if you happened to look around this year, almost every Top 10 team has had "bad" losses. And on top of that, you'd realize that it happens literally every year.

But you're so smart in basketball, then you obviously know that, right? But hey we both know you really wanted to turn this into another piss and moan about Barnes session, so go knock yourself out and pretend you're saying anything remotely original.
 
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