Thoughts After Reading The Letter...

#102
#102
Vols520 said:
There are a lot of condescending people on the board tonight.
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Condescending kids that aren't even out of school yet, but preach of real world issues and demand that their opinion must be shared by all or everyone else is then a fool. People that preach of integrity and character, then send cowardice private messages.
 
#103
#103
pl3 said:
Condescending kids that aren't even out of school yet, but preach of real world issues and demand that their opinion must be shared by all or everyone else is then a fool. People that preach of integrity and character, then send cowardice private messages.
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Or possibly a self-righteous ass making incorrect assumptions about the demographics of this message board, while admitting on several occasions he hasn't actually read the document that's being discussed.
 
#104
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pl3 said:
Condescending kids that aren't even out of school yet, but preach of real world issues and demand that their opinion must be shared by all or everyone else is then a fool. People that preach of integrity and character, then send cowardice private messages.
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Maybe you dont know how this works. If it gets personal or you are directing harsh comments that don't follow the rules, the board is instructed, by the site founder and its Mods, to send it in a PM.
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#105
Lawrence Wright said:
Or possibly a self-righteous ass making incorrect assumptions about the demographics of this message board, while admitting on several occasions he hasn't actually read the document that's being discussed.
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I haven't argued about what the document states. I have simply stated my opinion in regards to BP's actions and how I view them. You are up the wrong tree with the self righteous comment. Jabbing posts at 12-3 AM are seldom posted by adults that have families and are in the middle of big boy business everyday. That's not self righteous, it's common sense.
 
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#106
BigPapaVol said:
Maybe you dont know how this works. If it gets personal or you are directing harsh comments that don't follow the rules, the board is instructed, by the site founder and its Mods, to send it in a PM.
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I understand. I got no problem with you. You make your case without the other junk. People disagree. So what. I don't have to be right in your or others minds, but I don't need people to tell me it's their opinion or nothing, then send a cowardly little pm out of frustration. The internet has spawned many brave souls due to its anonymnity.
 
#107
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pl3 said:
I haven't argued about what the document states. I have simply stated my opinion in regards to BP's actions and how I view them. Your up the wrong tree with the self righteous comment. Jabbing posts at 12-3 AM are seldom posted by adults that have families and are in the middle of big boy business everyday. That's not self righteous, it's common sense.
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** you're
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#108
#108
pl3 said:
I haven't argued about what the document states. I have simply stated my opinion in regards to BP's actions and how I view them. Your up the wrong tree with the self righteous comment. Jabbing posts at 12-3 AM are seldom posted by adults that have families and are in the middle of big boy business everyday. That's not self righteous, it's common sense.
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Incorrect assumption #2.

You could write a novel based on what you don't know.
 
#112
#112
lylsmorr said:
There is a convenient ignore button for you to use if you don't like what I have to say.
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I don't like living with my head in the sand. Also, you throw some good stuff out there as well. I dont like the piggybacking.
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#113
#113
Kvol87 said:
The self imposed penalties are unique, it will be interesting to see. I tend to be more of a half full kind of guy.
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I agree, that and the SEC penalty of suspending Pearl for 8 SEC games already. Calhoun only got 3 games. I would hope the NCAA would take that to heart before dishing out their punishment. You know, when Slive handed out that penalty to Pearl I thought he was a d-bag and even though he still is he may have saved Pearl from being canned.
 
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#114
phowell23 said:
I agree, that and the SEC penalty of suspending Pearl for 8 SEC games already. Calhoun only got 3 games. I would hope the NCAA would take that to heart before dishing out their punishment. You know, when Slive handed out that penalty to Pearl I thought he was a d-bag and even though he still is he may have saved Pearl from being canned.
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What happened to UCONN assistants?
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#115
NYYVol said:
What happened to UCONN assistants?
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Fired i think but wasnt the violation they committed major in nature? I was under the impression that they supplied recruits with benefits. No?
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jp1 said:
Fired i think but wasnt the violation they committed major in nature? I was under the impression that they supplied recruits with benefits. No?
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That's part of the reason the 'AA slapped the three game suspension on Calhoun. The assistants were sacrificed as the source of the problem.
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NYYVol said:
That's part of the reason the 'AA slapped the three game suspension on Calhoun. The assistants were sacrificed as the source of the problem.
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So youre saying that calhoun would have been punished more severely if not for the assistants?
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#118
#118
After reading Dana O'Neil's column it certainly leads you to believe he will get the show-cause penalty. If that is true, Cheek needs to fire Pearl and Hamilton before the NCAA can rule. I would think that might temper some of the punishment the NCAA doles out.
 
#119
#119
jp1 said:
So youre saying that calhoun would have been punished more severely if not for the assistants?
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There's a very good possibility that he would have been punished worse. But their AD made the call to fire the ones assistants.

Just pointing out that for those praising Hamilton for his bravado of slapping Pearl with a pay deduction.
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#120
#120
NYYVol said:
There's a very good possibility that he would have been punished worse. But their AD made the call to fire the ones assistants.

Just pointing out that for those praising Hamilton for his bravado of slapping Pearl with a pay deduction.
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But see here is what I dont understand for them to punish calhoun means he knew what was going on so why would he only get 3 games regardless of who else was flamed in the deal?
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#121
#121
jp1 said:
But see here is what I dont understand for them to punish calhoun means he knew what was going on so why would he only get 3 games regardless of who else was flamed in the deal?
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Calhoun only got a suspension because of the failure to create an atmosphere. When the 'AA examined the fact that assistants had been terminated, and there were no blatant caught dead to right lies, they didn't have to go over the top with punishment.

Hamilton docked pay and put a recruiting ban, that wasn't followed closely to boot. Neither should be substantial enough in the 'AA's viewpoint.
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#122
#122
Winning cures all. Pearl catches fire and rolls to the sweet 16 in the tournament, people calling for his head will be sorely disappointed. Fact is, the NCAA is a money making entity - having the Pearl drama during March madness is good for business.

Pearl lied about the attendees at a cookout. All the "holier than thou" types are treating it like transcript falsification, improper financial benefits, or university sanctioned doping.

The sky is in fact, not falling. If Pearl gets fired today - big deal.
 
#123
#123
LawVol13 said:
At this point, the best interest of the school has to be the only thing that Hamilton or anyone with any decision-making influence considers. The "Bruce Pearl's done so much" stuff doesn't work anymore because rewarding what he's done on the court by keeping him now comes at a huge price. They might consist of: major sanctions being taken against our basketball program, an absolute PR nightmare (which is already taken place), and an overall sense that we are willing to place winning at a decent level in basketball above having any integrity.

I've long maintained that if Pearl could get less than 1 year suspension then I wouldn't argue with retaining him. However, I'm quite sure the 'AA isn't going to look fondly on Pearl committing yet another Major Violation in only a matter of days after his public cryfest.

Bottomline, at this point, it seems that an objective analysis would lead any rational person to the conclusion that the cost of keeping Pearl far outweighs the benefits of keeping him. It's truly a sad day for the University of Tennessee, and we can only hope that the people in power do the right thing for the future of the program.
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Rational person:eek:lol:
 
#124
#124
UT IE 95 said:
Winning cures all. Pearl catches fire and rolls to the sweet 16 in the tournament, people calling for his head will be sorely disappointed. Fact is, the NCAA is a money making entity - having the Pearl drama during March madness is good for business.

Pearl lied about the attendees at a cookout. All the "holier than thou" types are treating it like transcript falsification, improper financial benefits, or university sanctioned doping.

The sky is in fact, not falling. If Pearl gets fired today - big deal.
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That's been one of my points. If he's gone, he's gone. It's 100% his fault. I haven't defended his lying. It was stupid. It's also my opinion that much bigger things go on and have gone on, so this deal is overblown to me. 90% of us expected bigger, badder info to come out and it didn't. I know coaches have always lied, covered up and continue to do so. People lie. I don't think liars should challenge the integrity of other liars, also known as liers by a few.
 
#125
#125
UT IE 95 said:
Pearl lied about the attendees at a cookout. All the "holier than thou" types are treating it like transcript falsification, improper financial benefits, or university sanctioned doping.
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He called high school kids up and asked them to lie to the NCAA, too. That doesn't bother you?
 
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