Thoughts After Reading The Letter...

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#127
Vercingetorix said:
He called high school kids up and asked them to lie to the NCAA, too. That doesn't bother you?
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Just asking a question so dont get bent outta shape like people often do on here. How did he ask a high school kid to lie?
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#132
#132
Friends...The bottom line is this:

Bruce Pearl cried on national tv...then almost immediately went out & knowingly committed another rules violation.

Can we (fans, administrators, parents, students, etc...) tolerate this fact and still be the Tennessee we have always known? Are we going to be hypocrits?
 
#133
#133
NYYVol said:
Look at their body of work.
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Not saying i agree with all of the moves he made but over the long tenure he was here i couldnt say that i could do a better job with approximately 100 players per year. Could u?
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#135
jp1 said:
Just asking a question so dont get bent outta shape like people often do on here. How did he ask a high school kid to lie?
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Check out allegation 4c in the NOA. On the same day as his interview with the NCAA in which he lied about the picture, Pearl called Aaron Craft's family to remind them that it was a violation for them to have attended the cookout. Craft's father believed that Pearl was trying to influence the family's statements to the NCAA.
 
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#137
jp1 said:
Not saying i agree with all of the moves he made but over the long tenure he was here i couldnt say that i could do a better job with approximately 100 players per year. Could u?
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are there going to be screwups by 18-22 year olds. You betcha. Did my fair share.

But to think Fulmer and Pearl, for that matter, did good jobs of policing problems is ridiculous.
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#138
#138
TommyOler said:
Friends...The bottom line is this:

Bruce Pearl cried on national tv...then almost immediately went out & knowingly committed another rules violation.

Can we (fans, administrators, parents, students, etc...) tolerate this fact and still be the Tennessee we have always known? Are we going to be hypocrits?
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You're not a hypocrite if you simply don't care about the violations. And a heavy percentage of the posters on this board don't.
 
#139
#139
Vercingetorix said:
Check out allegation 4c in the NOA. On the same day as his interview with the NCAA in which he lied about the picture, Pearl called Aaron Craft's family to remind them that it was a violation for them to have attended the cookout. Craft's father believed that Pearl was trying to influence the family's statements to the NCAA.
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Didnt mr craft know it was a violation to be there anyway? If so my guess is he was prepared at some point to deny it if it came to question.
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#141
NYYVol said:
are there going to be screwups by 18-22 year olds. You betcha. Did my fair share.

But to think Fulmer and Pearl, for that matter, did good jobs of policing problems is ridiculous.
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So how would you as a coach were ur job is ultimately on the line deal with everything that has happened? My point is all coaches at the level that we want ours to be overlooks things sometimes. Just dont care for the constant finger pointing at the coaches but two threads down expect wins all the time. They have a tough job imo
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#143
Vercingetorix said:
You're not a hypocrite if you simply don't care about the violations. And a heavy percentage of the posters on this board don't.
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I care about the violations in case I made your percentage survey. And I understand he (we) may recieve more penalties, we will see. But I am also for keeping him at this point.
 
#144
#144
jp1 said:
So how would you as a coach were ur job is ultimately on the line deal with everything that has happened? My point is all coaches at the level that we want ours to be overlooks things sometimes. Just dont care for the constant finger pointing at the coaches but two threads down expect wins all the time. They have a tough job imo
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There's many, many guys out there putting 80 hours in a week mowing their own field and listening to griping mothers who would gladly take the money and responsibility.

Mistakes will be made. But a player who knows that they have a coach who will punish the heck out of them, or just send their backsides packing usually don't try to stray too far. But the ones that do get sent home very quick.
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#145
#145
jp1 said:
So how would you as a coach were ur job is ultimately on the line deal with everything that has happened? My point is all coaches at the level that we want ours to be overlooks things sometimes. Just dont care for the constant finger pointing at the coaches but two threads down expect wins all the time. They have a tough job imo
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he said he knew it was a violation when he committed it. Had he walked into MH's office the next day and told him to report it we would be talking about tournament seeding rather than this. Heck if he had just told the NCAA that the pic was taken in his house and he was guilty this wouldn't have happened either.

jp1 said:
Well if not that is on both of him and bruce. If he knew it was wrong in the first place maybe he shouldnt have attended.
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it's not the recruit's job to inform the coach of NCAA rules
 
#146
#146
jp1 said:
Well if not that is on both of him and bruce. If he knew it was wrong in the first place maybe he shouldnt have attended.
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Why is anything on the Crafts? It's Tennessee's violation, not theirs. It's not Aaron Craft's responsibility to keep Bruce Pearl's nose clean. Obviously Pearl made a huge mistake in assuming that other people would lie as readily as he does.
 
#147
#147
utvolpj said:
he said he knew it was a violation when he committed it. Had he walked into MH's office the next day and told him to report it we would be talking about tournament seeding rather than this. Heck if he had just told the NCAA that the pic was taken in his house and he was guilty this wouldn't have happened either.



it's not the recruit's job to inform the coach of NCAA rules[/QUOTE wasnt saying it was their job but if a parent takes money from a coach and knows that is against the rules are they supposed to get off scot free? The post up above says that bruce told the family that they were in violation and decided to go anyway
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#148
#148
Vercingetorix said:
Why is anything on the Crafts? It's Tennessee's violation, not theirs. It's not Aaron Craft's responsibility to keep Bruce Pearl's nose clean. Obviously Pearl made a huge mistake in assuming that other people would lie as readily as he does.
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U are correct and it is not their job but the question is did they not know?
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#149
#149
Vercingetorix said:
He called high school kids up and asked them to lie to the NCAA, too. That doesn't bother you?
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I'm not naive enough to believe that college recruiting is pure and clean. College recruiting is a business. Careers and lots of money are at stake. Having the dirty laundry aired sucks but I realize there is no shortage of unscrupulous activities in recruiting.

Lots of the dirty secrets in recruiting would bother me. Fortunately, only a few idiots get caught so the practice can maintain some public level of dignity.
 
#150
#150
UT IE 95 said:
I'm not naive enough to believe that college recruiting is pure and clean. College recruiting is a business. Careers and lots of money are at stake. Having the dirty laundry aired sucks but I realize there is no shortage of unscrupulous activities in recruiting.

Lots of the dirty secrets in recruiting would bother me. Fortunately, only a few idiots get caught so the practice can maintain some public level of dignity.
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Agreed...and what bruce did was stupid.
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