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#251
#251
Casual Mustard Yeeter said:
Y'all are high. We went from "fighting for bowl eligibility for the foreseeable future" to playoff game. Yeah, the boys got their butts whooped but we have come a really long ways. Maybe you should just go bandwagon somewhere else.
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No one is taking away from what huepel has done but if you're happy with 10 win seasons and a bowl game, kentucky might be the fanbase for you. Josh heupel brought us out of our own captivity but will his loyalty have had wandering the wilderness or will he deliver us to the promised land?
 
#252
#252
CNCVol88 said:
No one is taking away from what huepel has done but if you're happy with 10 win seasons and a bowl game, kentucky might be the fanbase for you. Josh heupel brought us out of our own captivity but will his loyalty have had wandering the wilderness or will he deliver us to the promised land?
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You guys that mistake moving on from a loss and recognizing what this team accomplished this year and over the last four years as somehow being "happy" with last night's result really need to settle down.
 
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#253
#253
sami said:
You guys that mistake moving on from a loss and recognizing what this team accomplished this year and over the last four years as somehow being "happy" with last night's result really need to settle down.
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It's not about moving on from a loss. That i can do. It's about looking at the product and realizing the product as it stands right now has hit its ceiling. There has to be changes if we are to raise that ceiling. Top 10 recruiting is not good enough. Kelsey Pope is not good enough. Willie Martinez is not good enough. Glen ellarbee is not good enough and honestly, if Josh huepel can't see that, he's not good enough either. He will be our Mark Richt.
 
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sami said:
You're wrong. They do have that much more, and last night made that as clear as it could possibly be. They have kids who will be playing on Sundays all over the field, on both sides of the ball. Their third WR would be WR1 on 95% of the programs in the country. the two RB's are among the top 5-6 in the next draft. The speed of that defense is next level, something that aside from UGa just doesn't exist in CFB.

All you guys who take this stuff personally or lost money betting on the game need to step back and see the big picture instead of making it about yourselves and worrying about being trolled on social media or at work on Monday. We got our asses kicked by a better program that has recruited on an elite level for the last decade plus and accumulated pro-level talent like you'll never see aside from 2-3 places in the country.

Everyone got lulled into a false sense of security because of the Michigan game and all the talk about Day, but what I feared most about a slow start is exactly what happened, and it became a snowball effect with Sampson not being available killing the offense and letting them pin their ears back. They heard the talk and saw all the UT fans in the seats - motivating that group couldn't have been much easier.

If the face mask hadn't happened and Sampson was healthy, would it have been different? Possibly closer, but there is just too much talent there and they became a buzzsaw after the opening score and knowing Sampson wasn't going to play. Embarrassing? Much more for the team than for the fans.

I'm proud as hell of this group and understand that we got the worst possible draw against what is the best team in this playoff at night in an incredibly tough environment. If you take it personally, that's on you and I suggest getting a different hobby.
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And man, if we would have Pili keeping tabs on the middle of the field. Two years in a row losing the heart and brains of our defense.
 
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#256
volgr said:
That is for Danny White to answer but the "who ya gunna git" narrative is tiresome. Upper tier programs fire good coaches and find better ones.
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Just about what I anticipated. You know more than Danny White about who we have now; but expect Danny White to know what to do to fix it 🙄
Life is so much easier from the cheap seats
 
#257
#257
orangerush said:
And I thought we were upgrading every year blow recruiting.
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We are upgrading Year by year. Saw it clearly in the Defensive front seven this year. Top talent and in depth. Losses at LB finally caught up with us last night.
Now we need to stack same level of talent in OL and that seems to be Heupel’s focus.
Need one or two breakaway speed WRs next year and hope we get a good replacement for Mays at Center.
And good grief find some OL tackles who can pass protect consistently.
 
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#258
Thr sky isn't falling,we are still Tennessee, we will survive and thrive.

Just hope in the near future we can give the yuckeyes some payback.
 
#259
#259
RockyTop140 said:
Look, I’m not disrespecting heupel at all for the job he’s done in the position we were in. But we are too prestigious a program to not be looking to improve when we can. We are in a position now where we can convince a proven head coach to take the job. Heupel has been paid well and been given every resource. And we just got embarrassed so badly that we should be questioning our coach. If I’m Danny White, I start putting out some feelers now. It’s been 2 years since our offense has been worth a ****. Flame away, I just think we could convince a good HC to take this job.
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Glad you’re not Danny White..you need to go back and see where we were before JH. This wasn’t like we lost to SMU or Indiana, OSU had NFL talent all over the field. That’s easily the best team we’ve played all year and it showed.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
We are upgrading Year by year. Saw it clearly in the Defensive front seven this year. Top talent and in depth. Losses at LB finally caught up with us last night.
Now we need to stack same level of talent in OL and that seems to be Heupel’s focus.
Need one or two breakaway speed WRs next year and hope we get a good replacement for Mays at Center.
And good grief find some OL tackles who can pass protect consistently.
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We have no Hyatt speed at wr. And it showed

Howard had time for a cup of coffee in the pocket. NICO got his helmet split while running for his life

Our DBs seemed to give a 20yd cushion

Or Rbs had no holes,and thiers did
 
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volgr said:
That is for Danny White to answer but the "who ya gunna git" narrative is tiresome. Upper tier programs fire good coaches and find better ones.
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In other words, I have no clue.

You’re complaining just to be complaining at this point.
 
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#265
This was an ill-prepared team to play Ohio State, as was the case wit GA and ARK., and that goes on the coach. He has taken us as far as he can take up and I applaud him for that, but to get over the hump you have to do better than "very good". This is a "Tony Romo" type coach- a bunch of glossy stats in regualr games, but when you get to meaningful or crucial games to really advance to the top elite, they fail you you completely. The inability to anticipate that an opposing team would look to what GA did and not expect them to use those strategies is ill -prepared or not that smart.

Heupel's inability to recruit a high level QB is not acceptable. Tennessee offers recruits everything they need to be successful and make a career in the NFL and has given loads of money and all the support to Heupel that any coach would want.

Send him on his way with a nice payout, thank him for getting us to this level and then move to someone that can get us over the hump.

My vote is to bring in Peyton Manning, let him recruit the top GB's in the country and move to his style of real offense.

TBB
 
#267
#267
Begone troll and dawn take you!

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#268
I follow mostly hsfb. If you want 100% unbiased take, I feel like that game last night was more of a one off. OSU got off to a fast start, hit some big plays and it changed the trajectory of the game. It happens. These are young people on a big stage. Sometimes it's just not your night.
 
#272
#272
Heupel's inability to recruit a high level qb? Have you kept up with recruiting at all? Recruiting a qb is not the problem. Heupel needs to step back and look at everything from a distance and make changes as he sees fit to get to where he envisions our team being. Some feelings may get hurt along the way, some friends lost, but changes need to happen. I'm not ready to give up on Heupel just yet.
 
#273
#273
volgr said:
That is for Danny White to answer but the "who ya gunna git" narrative is tiresome. Upper tier programs fire good coaches and find better ones.
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For every one program that fires a coach and replaces him with one that does better; there are probably five that stay the same or regress.
The basic math requires that there are exactly the same number of loses each year as there are wins. Every team cannot win 10+ games every year, no matter how many coaches get replaced. Thankfully with Heupel we have moved from the left side of the bell curve to the right. We have a record that the vast majority of college football fans would kill to have; but that isn’t enough for some people.
At the end of every season, there is one team that is totally happy but 133 that are disappointed.
Don’t waste your life missing the enjoyment of the really good while demanding the perfect. It is a sad state to be in IMHO.
Peace
 
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Yeah let’s move on from a coach that has historically been one of our better coaches. That is how you end up with Dooley, Jones, Pruitt.
 
#275
#275
RockyTop140 said:
Look, I’m not disrespecting heupel at all for the job he’s done in the position we were in. But we are too prestigious a program to not be looking to improve when we can. We are in a position now where we can convince a proven head coach to take the job. Heupel has been paid well and been given every resource. And we just got embarrassed so badly that we should be questioning our coach. If I’m Danny White, I start putting out some feelers now. It’s been 2 years since our offense has been worth a ****. Flame away, I just think we could convince a good HC to take this job.
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Suggestions about who you'd want that we might possibly get?

Do we try to get Belichick (really his son) to drop UNC? Do you seriously think Nick would come to Knoxville? Lane? Jimbo? Urban?

It's pretty easy to suggest "we should upgrade" but pretty hard to suggest who we might actually be able to get, isn't it?
 
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