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Data? Where is that data? No source was provided. Hence my skepticism.
Do you interact with people in real life? The more you post, the more I am convinced you don't get out much.
I asked if you were aware of the study. You didn't say no. You didn't ask for a link. You made an accusation I was being political. Then, made a racist accusation. And now you claim skepticism because I didn't provide the study??? Even though you were dismissive of it initially.

Do you want the study? Will it make a difference? Do you have all your teeth?
 
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Do you interact with people in real life? The more you post, the more I am convinced you don't get out much.
I asked if you were aware of the study. You didn't say no. You didn't ask for a link. You made an accusation I was being political. Then, made a racist accusation. And now you claim skepticism because I didn't provide the study??? Even though you were dismissive of it initially.

Do you want the study? Will it make a difference? Do you have all your teeth?
I bet he’s got those summer teeth…. Summer over here, summer over there
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Do you interact with people in real life? The more you post, the more I am convinced you don't get out much.
I asked if you were aware of the study. You didn't say no. You didn't ask for a link. You made an accusation I was being political. Then, made a racist accusation. And now you claim skepticism because I didn't provide the study??? Even though you were dismissive of it initially.

Do you want the study? Will it make a difference? Do you have all your teeth?
Bypassing the insults, which are more cute than offensive, I choose to answer the other questions. Sure, I'd like the study. Will it make a difference? We'll see. You tried to sell it on the platform of a Black man, did it. My experience is that some of the worst, "See, even a (n) admits it: are people I call scouts. Just like the traitorous Native American scouts who helped hunt down their own people, you get some Blacks who do the same thing verbally. Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas, Booker T. and others of that ilk. So I tend to take what such people say with a steam shovel bucket of salt. On top of that, I'm aware of cop culture. Wearing Confederate flag t-shirts under their uniform. Having White Supremacy tattoos that are covered by their uniforms, leaked recordings and emails that show what they REALLY think as opposed to the official BS they spew. Receiving commemorative items for beating and killing minorities, and so on. I won't mention some of the harrowing accounts of ex-Black cops of what they saw, and participated in under the "how blue are you?" internal culture policy. So my view is studies like what you mentioned, are biased and doctored to begin with. And now you want to tell me how much light people emit dictates whether they get shot or otherwise mistreated. There's always some contrived excuse to claim "See, we're innocent of your misconceptions about us.: Which all too often contradicts reality. So will it make a difference? We'll see. I still think your insults are cute, though. Unimaginative, but still cute.
 
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Bypassing the insults, which are more cute than offensive, I choose to answer the other questions. Sure, I'd like the study. Will it make a difference? We'll see. You tried to sell it on the platform of a Black man, did it. My experience is that some of the worst, "See, even a (n) admits it: are people I call scouts. Just like the traitorous Native American scouts who helped hunt down their own people, you get some Blacks who do the same thing verbally. Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas, Booker T. and others of that ilk. So I tend to take what such people say with a steam shovel bucket of salt. On top of that, I'm aware of cop culture. Wearing Confederate flag t-shirts under their uniform. Having White Supremacy tattoos that are covered by their uniforms, leaked recordings and emails that show what they REALLY think as opposed to the official BS they spew. Receiving commemorative items for beating and killing minorities, and so on. I won't mention some of the harrowing accounts of ex-Black cops of what they saw, and participated in under the "how blue are you?" internal culture policy. So my view is studies like what you mentioned, are biased and doctored to begin with. And now you want to tell me how much light people emit dictates whether they get shot or otherwise mistreated. There's always some contrived excuse to claim "See, we're innocent of your misconceptions about us.: Which all too often contradicts reality. So will it make a difference? We'll see. I still think your insults are cute, though. Unimaginative, but still cute.
There is no point in attempting to converse with you like normal people do. You are muddled in your thinking and inarticulate in your expression. You make up things which didn't happen and are revisionist with each successive reply.

The study follows. Read it. Ignore it. Contact the researcher, Dr Fryer, and tell him what a naughty black man he is...I do not care. Your adherence to bias and myth is of no concern to me.

It was updated in 2018. I do not know if this link is the updated study.

Study in the news:
 
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There is no point in attempting to converse with you like normal people do. You are muddled in your thinking and inarticulate in your expression. You make up things which didn't happen and are revisionist with each successive reply.

The study follows. Read it. Ignore it. Contact the researcher, Dr Fryer, and tell him what a naughty black man he is...I do not care. Your adherence to bias and myth is of no concern to me.

It was updated in 2018. I do not know if this link is the updated study.

Study in the news:
Well, since you have pre-decided there is no point in conversing with me, I won't bother to read your links. You have decided already doing so is a lost cause, so rather than contest you on that, I will follow your preconceived dictates. I WAS willing to rad it and see if it resulted in me modifying my views, but... Seems like a peaceful way to break off this back and forth between us, don't you agree?
 
Well, since you have pre-decided there is no point in conversing with me, I won't bother to read your links. You have decided already doing so is a lost cause, so rather than contest you on that, I will follow your preconceived dictates. I WAS willing to rad it and see if it resulted in me modifying my views, but... Seems like a peaceful way to break off this back and forth between us, don't you agree?
You made a mistake which is refuted by a study. I thought that might be of interest to you for your own edification.

This is my fault. I made some assumptions about you which were generous, at best. You are not a likable person...I don't think you want to be likable or have the capacity to understand what a likable person is. I'd rather focus on the friends I've made here, have some fun, and develop an understanding about how other people think.

Best wishes in whatever you pursue.
 
You made a mistake which is refuted by a study. I thought that might be of interest to you for your own edification.

This is my fault. I made some assumptions about you which were generous, at best. You are not a likable person...I don't think you want to be likable or have the capacity to understand what a likable person is. I'd rather focus on the friends I've made here, have some fun, and develop an understanding about how other people think.

Best wishes in whatever you pursue.
Your fault is that instead of saying, here are the links to the study, you said you wanted. You insultingly pre-decided to tell how I should respond to your links. The kindest thing for me to do was to just break off the discussion. But you now pull Batman assessment on me.
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You win. Here's your commemorative decal.
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You made a mistake which is refuted by a study. I thought that might be of interest to you for your own edification.

This is my fault. I made some assumptions about you which were generous, at best. You are not a likable person...I don't think you want to be likable or have the capacity to understand what a likable person is. I'd rather focus on the friends I've made here, have some fun, and develop an understanding about how other people think.

Best wishes in whatever you pursue.
I'm hoping he actually reads it and is just trolling. (He's quite openly and unambiguously stated he does a lot of this for "fun") Otherwise not wanting to read something he actually asked for that even HE admitted could have potentially "resulted in me modifying my views" pretty much defines willful ignorance.
 
I'm hoping he actually reads it and is just trolling. (He's quite openly and unambiguously stated he does a lot of this for "fun") Otherwise not wanting to read something he actually asked for that even HE admitted could have potentially "resulted in me modifying my views" pretty much defines willful ignorance.
I've never understood how trolling is 'fun". I'd much rather have shared fun as opposed to "fun for me but not for thee".
 
I'm hoping he actually reads it and is just trolling. (He's quite openly and unambiguously stated he does a lot of this for "fun") Otherwise not wanting to read something he actually asked for that even HE admitted could have potentially "resulted in me modifying my views" pretty much defines willful ignorance.
I would have read it if not for his predetermination putdowns. I even admitted it could modify my perception, though I had my doubts about it as states previously, and as to why. I even tried to just drop the going nowhere back and forth, only to receive further insulting preconceived accusations. Which were Batman assessments, as indicated by the Superman quote. But no matter, this is the very stuff I long came to expect in the political forum, thus why I troll here. You folks make it fun. Sadly, this time I was ready to read despite my doubts, and prepared to, if I deemed accurate, accept the results. I don;t argue with the truth, I just reject twisted and biased interpretions of truths, which convert it into lies. Are we having fun yet?
 
I would have read it if not for his predetermination putdowns. I even admitted it could modify my perception, though I had my doubts about it as states previously, and as to why. I even tried to just drop the going nowhere back and forth, only to receive further insulting preconceived accusations. Which were Batman assessments, as indicated by the Superman quote. But no matter, this is the very stuff I long came to expect in the political forum, thus why I troll here. You folks make it fun. Sadly, this time I was ready to read despite my doubts, and prepared to, if I deemed accurate, accept the results. I don;t argue with the truth, I just reject twisted and biased interpretions of truths, which convert it into lies. Are we having fun yet?
Why would someone's commentary about you keep you from availing yourself of potentially* valuable edification? Does that strike you as a particularly intelligent MO? Do as you will but c'mon man, you see the argument presented here. Beyond that there's precious little interest in me concerning myself with how you approach the issue.

*Potentially in that what you take from the study in question (or not) is up to you.
 
Why would someone's commentary about you keep you from availing yourself of potentially* valuable edification? Does that strike you as a particularly intelligent MO? Do as you will but c'mon man, you see the argument presented here. Beyond that there's precious little interest in me concerning myself with how you approach the issue.

*Potentially in that what you take from the study in question (or not) is up to you.
Because sometimes the faster route to peace is to give the dissenter what they want, wish them well, and walk away. However, some dissenters refuse to let you do even that. IF, IF, IF, I read the study, I wouldn't comment on it here because I already see what would happen if I did.. Peace be with you, water be with you--the alien way.
 
Because sometimes the faster route to peace is to give the dissenter what they want, wish them well, and walk away. However, some dissenters refuse to let you do even that. IF, IF, IF, I read the study, I wouldn't comment on it here because I already see what would happen if I did.. Peace be with you, water be with you--the alien way.
The boldened would be a perfectly acceptable way to avoid being willfully ignorant and still circumvent any troublesome interactions. Given your concerns probably the best possible course of action.

Stay alien out there.
 
The boldened would be a perfectly acceptable way to avoid being willfully ignorant and still circumvent any troublesome interactions. Given your concerns probably the best possible course of action.

Stay alien out there.
He has still not offered explanation to why he simply didn't ask for the study right off.

My guess is that would decrease the "fun" he experienced.
 
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He has still not offered explanation to why he simply didn't ask for the study right off.

My guess is that would decrease the "fun" he experienced.
I didn't ask because I didn't believe the study existed. Just as I now don't believe you'd provide an intelligent response if I read the articles and commented on them here. In contrast, I OFTEN back up my comments with links to articles. Not always but often. When you didn't the automatic deliberation was that such a study didn't exist. See? I can the preconceived judgment thing too.
 
The boldened would be a perfectly acceptable way to avoid being willfully ignorant and still circumvent any troublesome interactions. Given your concerns probably the best possible course of action.

Stay alien out there.
My idea was better, try to end the exchanges because McBaby was becoming increasingly vile. Tried it thrice, didn't work. I might read the material, likely only because of the interesting claim he made about what color bands are emitted by ethnic groups impacts whether cops will abuse or kill a person or not. Insane idea, but you know, truth can be stranger than fiction at times. That's the alien truth.
 
I would have read it if not for his predetermination putdowns. I even admitted it could modify my perception, though I had my doubts about it as states previously, and as to why. I even tried to just drop the going nowhere back and forth, only to receive further insulting preconceived accusations. Which were Batman assessments, as indicated by the Superman quote. But no matter, this is the very stuff I long came to expect in the political forum, thus why I troll here. You folks make it fun. Sadly, this time I was ready to read despite my doubts, and prepared to, if I deemed accurate, accept the results. I don;t argue with the truth, I just reject twisted and biased interpretions of truths, which convert it into lies. Are we having fun yet?
you were the one who started with the predetermined putdowns.

you insulted the study as political, and racist, without knowing the first thing about it. because you didn't know about the study you didn't realize that YOUR predetermined response was completely backwards from the study itself.

it was done by a black guy to prove cops shoot black people more than they should. he got the opposite results. so the guy redid the study again before publishing, got the same results. so he finally published after he was able to convince himself the data was real.

and now you are ignoring a study because it would challenge YOUR predetermined response because YOU assigned a wrong predetermined response to the person you were talking to.

I don't think its McDad with a problem of predetermined putdowns. be more like the guy who did the study and be willing to actually learn and engage honestly before jumping to conclusions because it challenges your preconceived notions.
 
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you were the one who started with the predetermined putdowns.

you insulted the study as political, and racist, without knowing the first thing about it. because you didn't know about the study you didn't realize that YOUR predetermined response was completely backwards from the study itself.

it was done by a black guy to prove cops shoot black people more than they should. he got the opposite results. so the guy redid the study again before publishing, got the same results. so he finally published after he was able to convince himself the data was real.

and now you are ignoring a study because it would challenge YOUR predetermined response because YOU assigned a wrong predetermined response to the person you were talking to.

I don't think its McDad with a problem of predetermined putdowns. be more like the guy who did the study and be willing to actually learn and engage honestly before jumping to conclusions because it challenges your preconceived notions.
OK. Peace be with you, water be with you -- The Alien way.
 
Some people are just incapable of having intellectually honest debate......... Which makes them utterly useless in this forum.
We don't have to all agree. In fact the forum would be boring if we did.

But we can dialogue about stuff we disagree on. A good example of how to do that is the Malikowski thread.
 
In reality, this forum is nothing but a safe place for MAGA-ist, conspiracists, Trumpians, Nazis, Putin-puppets, and brown haters. Way I see it, your favorite pastime is to gang up on those you disagree with, try to outdo each other hitting them with ridicule, insults, verbal code winks, and other ploys played here. As a Thark alien, I'm drawn to the idiocratic mindsets here. I find it amusing.
 
In reality, this forum is nothing but a safe place for MAGA-ist, conspiracists, Trumpians, Nazis, Putin-puppets, and brown haters. Way I see it, your favorite pastime is to gang up on those you disagree with, try to outdo each other hitting them with ridicule, insults, verbal code winks, and other ploys played here. As a Thark alien, I'm drawn to the idiocratic mindsets here. I find it amusing.

It needed to be said.
 
In reality, this forum is nothing but a safe place for MAGA-ist, conspiracists, Trumpians, Nazis, Putin-puppets, and brown haters. Way I see it, your favorite pastime is to gang up on those you disagree with, try to outdo each other hitting them with ridicule, insults, verbal code winks, and other ploys played here. As a Thark alien, I'm drawn to the idiocratic mindsets here. I find it amusing.
This forum leans right for sure, and sometimes the most vocal are the fringe on both sides of the spectrum. But there are diverse thinkers here and many post regularly. I don't agree with anyone on everything. But I like to hear opposing viewpoints or angles. It's helped shape my thoughts on politics and hot topic issues.

I do however draw the line at those who are intellectually dishonest. There's no constructive reason to interact.

On the subject he was discussing, I was somewhat familiar with the study, because it came on the heels of the BLM demonstrations/movement.

I remember the person doing the study didn't believe the results could be accurate, so he ran them again with similar results. He then decided to publish the work even though many of his peers told him he shouldn't. I'd encourage you to take a look at the study and the person who lead it. The whole sequence was interesting.
 
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This forum leans right for sure, and sometimes the most vocal are the fringe on both sides of the spectrum. But there are diverse thinkers here and many post regularly. I don't agree with anyone on everything. But I like to hear opposing viewpoints or angles. It's helped shape my thoughts on politics and hot topic issues.

I do however draw the line at those who are intellectually dishonest. There's no constructive reason to interact.

On the subject he was discussing, I was somewhat familiar with the study, because it came on the heels of the BLM demonstrations/movement.

I remember the person doing the study didn't believe the results could be accurate, so he ran them again with similar results. He then decided to publish the work even though many of his peers told him he shouldn't. I'd encourage you to take a look at the study and the person who lead it. The whole sequence was interesting.
I might do it as I said. The light emission aspect is interesting, doubtful as I am about McBaby's claim. I'm usually a sucker for not just out-of-the-box thinking, but all the way into the other building thinking. Just not when it is obviously BS excuses for bigotry, which I've seen plenty, in just about every form imaginable. And what I said about cop culture in that exchange is factual, light emission notwithstanding.
 
I might do it as I said. The light emission aspect is interesting, doubtful as I am about McBaby's claim. I'm usually a sucker for not just out-of-the-box thinking, but all the way into the other building thinking. Just not when it is obviously BS excuses for bigotry, which I've seen plenty, in just about every form imaginable. And what I said about cop culture in that exchange is factual, light emission notwithstanding.
You do realize what is meant by light emission when he posted it?
 
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