Tom Smith commits to the Vols

[volwarrior33]

If you have a team full of them like UF or Bama, some are going to be busts but it won’t matter because enough will perform on the level expected out of 4 stars and 5 stars. That’s why it’s almost impossible for a team full of 3 stars to compete with Bama or UF. Though some 3 stars turn out to be 4 stars, some turn out to be 1 stars (Nick Stephens, Tyler Maples, etc.).

 

[volwarrior33]

thats humorous

Martin will. Nothing humorous about that. Fulmer said he had a chance to be the next Leonard Little, he has not sniffed that level yet.

 

[Preds&Vols]

thats humorous

I thought so too...Chris Walker a bustlol:

 

[volwarrior33]

How many of those big name recruits in Kiffin's class are still here? Exactly....


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6.1 ***** S Janzen Jackson
5.9 **** DB Eric Gordon
5.9 **** DB Darren Myles
5.9 **** RB David Oku
5.8 **** WR Marsalis Teague
5.9 **** QB Tyler Bray
5.9 **** OL Jawuan James
5.9 **** DE Corey Miller
5.9 **** WR Matt Milton
5.9 **** DE Jacques Smith
5.8 **** DT John Brown
5.8 **** WR Ted Meline

Those are the 4* players that committed during the year Kiffin was here.

 

[LynxVol]

Great pick-up. Can't believe this thread got this many posts in just a few hours.

 

[CountVolcula]

6.1 ***** S Janzen Jackson
5.9 **** DB Eric Gordon
5.9 **** DB Darren Myles
5.9 **** RB David Oku
5.8 **** WR Marsalis Teague
5.9 **** QB Tyler Bray
5.9 **** OL Jawuan James
5.9 **** DE Corey Miller
5.9 **** WR Matt Milton
5.9 **** DE Jacques Smith
5.8 **** DT John Brown
5.8 **** WR Ted Meline

Those are the 4* players that committed during the year Kiffin was here.

Jacques was a Vol regardless. Kiffin had nothing to do with his recruitment

 

[justingroves]

Martin will. Nothing humorous about that. Fulmer said he had a chance to be the next Leonard Little, he has not sniffed that level yet.

Martin still has one year to live up to his potential.

As of now, yes he's a bust.

 

[UT4LIFE86]

i know this has nothing to do with this thread but does anyone know how zach fulton is doing ??? thanx fellows

 

[crusse10]

Jacques was a Vol regardless. Kiffin had nothing to do with his recruitment

wow. Seriously?

If we're playing that game, Chaz Green was a Vol until Kiffin left.

 

[rockytophigh]

We should change the name of this site to The Box.....cause it sure holds a bunch of tools.

Welcome to the Big Orange Nation kid. Forget the naysayers, work your tail off, compete, and be ready when the lights of Neyland hit you! GO VOLS!

 

[volwarrior33]

Jacques was a Vol regardless. Kiffin had nothing to do with his recruitment

Dumb argument. Many of those kids in Texas grew up wanting to be Longhorns, does not mean Mack Brown gets no credit for it. He committed while Kiffin is here, therefore he counts as a Kiffin commitment.

 

[chavisut]

Martin and Walker will be worth of the label "bust" if they don't stay healthy and perform consistantly their senior years. Demonte was a friggin bust.

Walker was a low 4 star and wasn't one of the big names everybody talked about in that class. He has been far from a bust.

 

[CountVolcula]

Dumb argument. Many of those kids in Texas grew up wanting to be Longhorns, does not mean Mack Brown gets no credit for it. He committed while Kiffin is here, therefore he counts as a Kiffin commitment.

Not arguing!! Stating fact

 

[CountVolcula]

wow. Seriously?

If we're playing that game, Chaz Green was a Vol until Kiffin left.

Jacques committed to UT not Kiffin. Green was the opposite.

 

[crusse10]

Not arguing!! Stating fact

It's not a fact. Your assumption means that if Johnny from Milan was hired to coach the Vols, Jacques would have been first in line to play, regardless.

 

[ihateflorida]

Dumb argument. Many of those kids in Texas grew up wanting to be Longhorns, does not mean Mack Brown gets no credit for it. He committed while Kiffin is here, therefore he counts as a Kiffin commitment.

Funny you mention this!

 

[CountVolcula]

It's not a fact. Your assumption means that if Johnny from Milan was hired to coach the Vols, Jacques would have been first in line to play, regardless.

Johnny from Milan is a fine coach

 

[champyvol]

What would you like him to do? It's year 0 for him, and it's freakin' June.

overachieve, impress, that would be nice.

 

[champyvol]

I see your point, but there are other contributing factors:
TN owned the state of Georgia in recruiting before Mark Richt came. TN did not capitalize on the Ron Zook years in Florida. Fulmer making a bad decision on hiring Clawson Fulmer, Mallett And The Decision That Doomed Tennessee Vols Football | Bleacher Report

can't argue with any of that.

 

[champyvol]

So Hamilton is to blame for every "big time" coach that refused the money that he threw on the table? Most wanted ridiculous clauses in their contracts, you know the same one that Kiffin had so he could leave if USC offered.

Hamilton couldnt help that nobody wanted to come into the mess that Dooley inherited. I applauded Dooley for even trying to right the ship, but all most of you can do is complain. Most coaches want instant success, so they can move on to greener pastures. They dont want to come into a situation where they have to basically rebuild a program.

Muschamp wasnt coming. He has it made in Texas. Easy to recruit to Texas. Not so much at UT.

Gruden- Pipe dream
Davis-Pipe Dream
Kelly- Dream job ND

So we got what we got. So we might as well all be men about it and deal with it. Dooley will do fine, if he is just given a chance.

always on the AD bro. he has done a terrible job with the football program, he should be gone.

 

[champyvol]

You seem to misunderstand causality.

You want Dooley to:

1. Generate excitement about the program.
2. Pull in big recruits.

At this point, the only way to generate excitement about the program is to pull in big-name recruits, yet the only way to pull in big-name recruits RIGHT NOW (in this off-season) is to generate excitement about the program. There's really no way to generate excitement until the season starts and we can see the product on the field.

You really just need to wait until the season before you start bashing the guy.

It's better to be positive and hopeful or, at least, agnostic about Dooley's success than to be negative, hopeless, and despairing. Your thoughts and feelings have no control over the situation. And, since that is so, you lose nothing by being positive. Being negative only produces hopelessness and despair.

not bashing the guy, i just don't have much faith in him. maybe that is the samething, i just want some positive things to happen.

 

[lylsmorr]

Kid is a tank. Good pickup.

 

[champyvol]

Dooley won't get the big recuits untill he shows them what Tennessee will look like on the field. Once he does that and shows the future potential of the program the big recruits will come. So slow down, take a deep breath, and be patient.


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what if he don't show it on the field. we are not suppose to be very good this year and that is something i agree with most about. i'll be the first to admit i'm not a patient person, but a decade has passed and there hasn't been 1 SEC championship for us. nor does it look like one is coming anytime soon. hell i would like to see us win one again before i croke.

 

[rockytophigh]

We should change the name of this site to The Box.....cause it sure holds a bunch of tools.

Welcome to the Big Orange Nation kid. Forget the naysayers, work your tail off, compete, and be ready when the lights of Neyland hit you! GO VOLS!

Volwhinier33

"Actually in Kiffin’s first class, this guy would be our lowest rated commit (though I expect him to end up a low 4 star). And that class didn’t have any 2 stars either."

You sir, are the official Screwdriver of The Box. Listen up Phillipshead.......it's over, Kiffin is gone and on probation....GTF over it.

 

[PowerT83]

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-recruiting/101428-staying-topic-player-threads.html

Stay on topic.

Good pick up, for the good guys.