Top US General Publicly Disagrees With Trump Over Syria

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vols40 said:
Kick the can like you always do. Stop blaming Republicans for everything. Bush Cheney never drew a red line and kept moving it. Your such an idiot. You probably blame Schwarzenegger for homelessness in California.
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I never kicked the can. Cheney and Bush literally created ISIS leadership. That’s a factual claim. Then their war created a power vacuum. This isn’t a repub Dem issue. It’s a fact. Then Obama continued to underestimate them and continued **** foreign policy. I will give Trump credit in not getting us involved in more military action. Damn site better then th previous two admins in that regard. Side note: You take political opinions way too personally. Grow up.
 
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volfanhill said:
I never kicked the can. Cheney and Bush literally created ISIS leadership. That’s a factual claim. Then their war created a power vacuum. This isn’t a repub Dem issue. It’s a fact. Then Obama continued to underestimate them and continued **** foreign policy. I will give Trump credit in not getting us involved in more military action. Damn site better then th previous two admins in that regard. Side note: You take political opinions way too personally. Grow up.
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I take idiots personal. And you are just willing to take anything spewed by the Democratic party and their 1st cousin the main stream media and regurgitate it as fact and it's simply not true. Had Obama not removed troups without an exit strategy there is No ISIS
 
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vols40 said:
I take idiots personal. And you are just willing to take anything spewed by the Democratic party and their 1st cousin the main stream media and regurgitate it as fact and it's simply not true. Had Obama not removed troups without an exit strategy there is No ISIS
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Why were troops there in the first place? Why was there a leadship vacuum? Was the cost of this war worth it?
 
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volfanhill said:
And that withdrawal wouldn’t have happened had we never invaded. They lied us into a war.
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The only thing you have ever said that right but guess what you boob... There was bipartisan support for invading. So everyone was wrong. But once the invasion started and as long as troups were there we had no ISIS. The vacuum created by the withdrawal spawned what everyone knows as ISIS. You probably bought that Benghazi was a response to a video. What a tool
 
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vols40 said:
The only thing you have ever said that right but guess what you boob... There was bipartisan support for invading. So everyone was wrong. But once the invasion started and as long as troups were there we had no ISIS. The vacuum created by the withdrawal spawned what everyone knows as ISIS. You probably bought that Benghazi was a response to a video. What a tool
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I don’t care that we had bipartisan support. The narrative was pushed and driven home by one administration. The Dems who supported it have blame too. But they weren’t the ones running around drumming up support under false pretenses.
 
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volfanhill said:
I don’t care that we had bipartisan support. The narrative was pushed and driven home by one administration. The Dems who supported it have blame too. But they weren’t the ones running around drumming up support under false pretenses.
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No accountability. The media and people like you blamed George Bush for Hurricane Katrina and the housing crisis. Don't stop this idiotic crusade you are on because it's people like you who drive people to the Republican party in ways I could only hope to. So in short thanks for Making America Great Again
 
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vols40 said:
No accountability. The media and people like you blamed George Bush for Hurricane Katrina and the housing crisis. Don't stop this idiotic crusade you are on because it's people like you who drive people to the Republican party in ways I could only hope to. So in short thanks for Making America Great Again
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Your lack of being around makes you sound stupid. I have never blamed Bush for Katrina. And I wouldn’t blame him for the housing crises since he predicted and warned Congress about it well before it happened. And I voted for him. So try again.

Oh by the way the lack of “accountability” was really funny. I passed blame on both prior admins, complemented Trump on the issue, and you can’t even acknowledge that the Bush admin screwed the pooch by getting us into that war in the first place. Seems like if anyone lacks accountability it is you sir.
 
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volfanhill said:
Your lack of being around makes you sound stupid. I have never blamed Bush for Katrina. And I wouldn’t blame him for the housing crises since he predicted and warned Congress about it well before it happened. And I voted for him. So try again.

Oh by the way the lack of “accountability” was really funny. I passed blame on both prior admins, complemented Trump on the issue, and you can’t even acknowledge that the Bush admin screwed the pooch by getting us into that war in the first place. Seems like if anyone lacks accountability it is you sir.
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But you only have lip service to Obama withdrawal with no exit strategy. 5 plus years after an invasion should have said hey Mr President we should have an exit strategy but his was Bin Laden is dead.
 
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vols40 said:
But you only have lip service to Obama withdrawal with no exit strategy. 5 plus years after an invasion should have said hey Mr President we should have an exit strategy but his was Bin Laden is dead.
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I have been critical of Obama, many many many times, and his handling of Iraq. Not my fault you weren’t around. Not my fault you project people’s political positions on people bc they are critical of Trump. You like to preach accountability but I have yet to see you say it was a mistake to go in. I have yet to see criticize trump. I may have missed it though. So I will pass the benefit of the doubt. Oh and I have given Trump praise where I thought it was due. Tax cuts, deregulation, and meeting with Kim to name a few. But you like to assume positions and call names.
 
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volfanhill said:
I have been critical of Obama, many many many times, and his handling of Iraq. Not my fault you weren’t around. Not my fault you project people’s political positions on people bc they are critical of Trump. You like to preach accountability but I have yet to see you say it was a mistake to go in. I have yet to see criticize trump. I may have missed it though. So I will pass the benefit of the doubt. Oh and I have given Trump praise where I thought it was do. Tax cuts, deregulation, and meeting with Kim to make a few. But you like to assume positions and call names.
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I agreed with you. Post #81 of this thread. First sentence maybe you missed it. Still doesn't change the fact that you refuse to put ISIS on Obama where it belongs.
 
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vols40 said:
I agreed with you. Post #81 of this thread. First sentence maybe you missed it. Still doesn't change the fact that you refuse to put ISIS on Obama where it belongs.
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Then we have a disagreement. That’s all. I argue the bigger mistake was regime change. You argue it was exit strategy. I may even shock you with this: If Trump had kept the government shut down I would arguably be his biggest supporter.
 
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volfanhill said:
Then we have a disagreement. That’s all. I argue the bigger mistake was regime change. You argue it was exit strategy. I may even shock you with this: If Trump had kept the government shut down I would arguably be his biggest supporter.
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I agree with the government shutdown but no Republican ever gets support for a government shutdown. Even during the Clinton's govt shutdown Newt Gingrich was blamed daily. And you are right regime change doesn't help when there are much bigger idiots looking to take there place. And if you aren't able to see that had Obama not left in a haste like he did ISIS would not have grown to what it became. It's really as simple as that.
 
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vols40 said:
I agree with the government shutdown but no Republican ever gets support for a government shutdown. Even during the Clinton's govt shutdown Newt Gingrich was blamed daily. And you are right regime change doesn't help when there are much bigger idiots looking to take there place. And if you aren't able to see that had Obama not left in a haste like he did ISIS would not have grown to what it became. It's really as simple as that.
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I agree Obama screwed up. I just argue it wouldn’t be his chess game to screw up if we weren’t there in the first place. So, if you ask me who I blame, it’s both admins. If you asked me who screwed up more then it’s the Bush admin.

And as far as getting credit about a gov shutdown I expect leaders to lead. Even if it costs them. And I sure as **** don’t expect them to increase non entitlement programs.
 
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volfanhill said:
I agree Obama screwed up. I just argue it wouldn’t be his chess game to screw up if we weren’t there in the first place. So, if you ask me who I blame, it’s both admins. If you asked me who screwed up more then it’s the Bush admin.
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Lol
 
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vols40 said:
Was it when George Bush said that a group of Islamic Fundamentalist were a JV group? And that group took over most of Iraq? If so I missed that.
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No it was GW who said they had a bunch of crap they didn’t. Sent thousands of our guys to die. Destabilized an entire region. And thought nation building was good policy.
 
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volfanhill said:
No it was GW who said they had a bunch of crap they didn’t. Sent thousands of our guys to die. Destabilized an entire region. And thought nation building was good policy.
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And your boy BHO's answer to that was hold my beer. The country rejected the Obama's. Get over it. Why won't they and the Clinton's have class like the Bush family and keep their big mouths shut when it comes to politics? No one cares what they have to say. Write your books shake down Netflix and shut up.
 
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volfanhill said:
No it was GW who said they had a bunch of crap they didn’t. Sent thousands of our guys to die. Destabilized an entire region. And thought nation building was good policy.
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The region was destabilized when President Obama removed troups
 
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vols40 said:
And your boy BHO's answer to that was hold my beer. The country rejected the Obama's. Get over it. Why won't they and the Clinton's have class like the Bush family and keep their big mouths shut when it comes to politics? No one cares what they have to say. Write your books shake down Netflix and shut up.
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Again why do you keep subscribing beliefs to me that don’t exist? I never voted for Obama. And no the country didn’t reject them. Look at his approval
Numbers. They, and I, reject Hillary. Seriously you are the definition of someone who makes assumptions. And wrong with me at every turn. It’s becoming comical at this point.
 
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Coug said:
"The US commander who has been leading the war against ISIS told CNN Friday that he disagreed with Donald Trump's decision to pull troops out of Syria and warned that the terror group was far from defeated, in a stark public break with the President."

ISIS: Top US general disagrees with Trump over Syria troop pullout - CNNPolitics
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What would make you happy? I feel you’re going to cry about them being their and now you’re crying about him trying to remove the

Edit: I’m a few drinks in and the “you” in this, isn’t specifically “you”, Coug. If that makes any sense
 
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volfanhill said:
Again why do you keep subscribing beliefs to me that don’t exist? I never voted for Obama. And no the country didn’t reject them. Look at his approval
Numbers. They, and I, reject Hillary. Seriously you are the definition of someone who makes assumptions. And wrong with me at every turn. It’s becoming comical at this point.
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You are comical. Against everything solves nothing. And please site any credible example of ISIS between 2001 and the day BHO took office.
 
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