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Rickyvol77 said:
People with mental illness usually commit suicide because of their disorders and because they are on medications.(legal or otherwise). Not because of societal norms. I knew a patient who believed he was Jesus. He killed himself but not because we didn’t believe he was Jesus
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They should have never closed mental institutions. They cut loose some seriously mental ill people who are a danger to society.
 
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AshG said:
Political correctness, by and large, is just the effort to encourage people to show respect to others.

You may disagree with what people do, but have the maturity to leave them alone to live their lives.
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It's interesting that I strongly suspect you and I are on very different sides of the political spectrum, yet I agree with your opinion many times ... and generally respect it even when I don't agree. I halfway agree with you on this one. I can agree to accept what others believe just as long as they don'f try to force those beliefs on me, and that's exactly what the diversity and liberal crowd do. I expect if people simply go their own way without trying to force "tolerance", we wouldn't have push back and all the problems we do. I also absolutely agree with an earlier post that a lot of this nonsense is the result of parental and peer pressure mixed in with a desire to be outrageous to gain the need for the notoriety that some people seem to crave. Basically nothing more than the old "class clown" on steroids - which with the advent of social media is like moving warfare from conventional to nuclear weaponry.
 
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AshG said:
Political correctness, by and large, is just the effort to encourage people to show respect to others.

You may disagree with what people do, but have the maturity to leave them alone to live their lives.
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I wish that were the case but that’s not anywhere close to being true.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Because, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't affect you.
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How do you know it doesn’t affect me ? I just pointed out that what’s acceptable social norms should interest everyone since they are the standard on which everything is based on .
 
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AM64 said:
It's interesting that I strongly suspect you and I are on very different sides of the political spectrum, yet I agree with your opinion many times ... and generally respect it even when I don't agree. I halfway agree with you on this one. I can agree to accept what others believe just as long as they don'f try to force those beliefs on me, and that's exactly what the diversity and liberal crowd do. I expect if people simply go their own way without trying to force "tolerance", we wouldn't have push back and all the problems we do. I also absolutely agree with an earlier post that a lot of this nonsense is the result of parental and peer pressure mixed in with a desire to be outrageous to gain the need for the notoriety that some people seem to crave. Basically nothing more than the old "class clown" on steroids - which with the advent of social media is like moving warfare from conventional to nuclear weaponry.
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I think you'd be pretty surprised at my political beliefs. I'm too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives. That lets me in a lot of conversations, and gets me thrown out of even more.

I agree with you that there are likely people who have suffered trauma, bad steering, etc. who make really bad decisions as a result (or have bad decisions thrust upon them). If anything, that highlights the need for wider access to mental health options to help people deal with these issues. It's just not accessible, and it's also not acceptable in many circles.

But if there's anything I am openly intolerant of, it's the tolerance movement. Any group that forces itself as normal and demands that you accept them eventually reaches a point where their struggle to survive becomes a struggle to dominate. American Evangelism (which is way different than the rest of the world) is an example. Liberal Pan-Acceptance is another. Both good rationale at the beginning, now they're steamrollers with their sights on anyone who disagrees.
 
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We all define our own normal. But unless someone is directly effecting your life in a negative way, why should you care what they do with their body or life? Do you want to subject your own life to the policing of others?

I'm beginning to think hate is a mental illness.
 
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0nelilreb said:
How do you know it doesn’t affect me ? I just pointed out that what’s acceptable social norms should interest everyone since they are the standard on which everything is based on .
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If social norms decided to take away your guns, would you be okay with that? I don't believe in letting social norms trump personal freedoms.
 
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Weezer said:
We all define our own normal. But unless someone is directly effecting your life in a negative way, why should you care what they do with their body or life? Do you want to subject your own life to the policing of others?

I'm beginning to think hate is a mental illness.
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There is no 'being an *******' gene.
 
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Weezer said:
We all define our own normal. But unless someone is directly effecting your life in a negative way, why should you care what they do with their body or life? Do you want to subject your own life to the policing of others?

I'm beginning to think hate is a mental illness.
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I would draw a hard line when it's males that (for whatever reason) have decided to identity as female compete in female sports. I think this is where reality supersedes (or should) the personal identity issue. It's a real thing.

3 Connecticut female athletes file federal discrimination complaint over transgender competition
 
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Weezer said:
If social norms decided to take away your guns, would you be okay with that? I don't believe in letting social norms trump personal freedoms.
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There are people trying to make it a normal thing to take away my gun rights without changing the constitution. Does this mean people without fires shouldn’t be concerned because it doesn’t affect them ? What if those people see it as a way to justify making other thing “ the norm “ like taking away a 1a right without changing the constitution? Taking a dump on the sidewalk in a city other than mine doesn’t affect me directly , unless it becomes an acceptable practice and every city decides meh I’ll allow it . Then it becomes an acceptable social norm . Pandora’s Box anyone ?
 
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AshG said:
I think you'd be pretty surprised at my political beliefs. I'm too conservative for the liberals and too liberal for the conservatives. That lets me in a lot of conversations, and gets me thrown out of even more.

I agree with you that there are likely people who have suffered trauma, bad steering, etc. who make really bad decisions as a result (or have bad decisions thrust upon them). If anything, that highlights the need for wider access to mental health options to help people deal with these issues. It's just not accessible, and it's also not acceptable in many circles.

But if there's anything I am openly intolerant of, it's the tolerance movement. Any group that forces itself as normal and demands that you accept them eventually reaches a point where their struggle to survive becomes a struggle to dominate. American Evangelism (which is way different than the rest of the world) is an example. Liberal Pan-Acceptance is another. Both good rationale at the beginning, now they're steamrollers with their sights on anyone who disagrees.
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I guess in a way we're more alike than different; I'm very conservative on some things and liberal on others. I never understood the GOP as fiscal conservatives who feel OK with dictating social issues, and certainly not Democrats pushing social reform at tremendous cost. The libertarian movement is too full of lunatics to be taken seriously, and the occasional sane independent never has a chance. So we have too much tendency to lump people in one group or another along overly broad R/D lines.

I read enough in what you said the other night about "crowd control" in your music classes to understand you certainly aren't a straight up liberal. While I generally rail against liberal arts as majors for college students, I appreciate that the world needs some of those things ... certainly English and music and some others ... the liberal arts version of math and "sciences" should be folded into Schools of Engineering, and lot of the fluff simply folded. By the way my older son is a lot more liberal than me, has a PhD, and teaches university English lit; we have a lot of respect for each other and he still comes to me for advice, so perhaps the divide isn't always as wide as we make it to be.

I especially like and agree with the bolded statement.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This isn’t the same as accepting actual reality. I.E a man is not a woman, a person is not a cat etc. truth is truth and not opinion
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Actual reality is that gender reassignment surgery exists, and if someone wants to have it done, respect their wishes. No one is asking you to have it. It's a personal choice. That is truth.
 
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Weezer said:
We all define our own normal. But unless someone is directly effecting your life in a negative way, why should you care what they do with their body or life? Do you want to subject your own life to the policing of others?

I'm beginning to think hate is a mental illness.
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I haven't seen anyone post anything that says people shouldn't be able to do what they want with their bodies. I don't think this thread has anything to do with that.

On the flip side of your argument, you should be pointing a finger at news sources saying just because people can do what they want with their body doesn't mean you have to push this down our throats 24/7.
 
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0nelilreb said:
There are people trying to make it a normal thing to take away my gun rights without changing the constitution. Does this mean people without fires shouldn’t be concerned because it doesn’t affect them ? What if those people see it as a way to justify making other thing “ the norm “ like taking away a 1a right without changing the constitution? Taking a dump on the sidewalk in a city other than mine doesn’t affect me directly , unless it becomes an acceptable practice and every city decides meh I’ll allow it . Then it becomes an acceptable social norm . Pandora’s Box anyone ?
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How is someone have reassignment surgery taking a dump on your sidewalk? It's their body, their choice. Should we start outlawing tattoos and body piercings as well?
 
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