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#126
Rickyvol77 said:
And that’s fine but that doesn’t change their biology. They are still whatever gender they were born as. And those who don’t do the surgery are still a man dressed up as a woman or vice versa. Delusional mentally ill people who can do what they want. But I don’t have to call them anything other than the truth
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Hate solves nothing.
 
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Weezer said:
Hate solves nothing.
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I don’t hate anyone. If a guy comes up to me and says “I’m identifying as a cat you better call me a cat” I’ll sigh to myself and not feed into his delusion... I don’t hate him I pity him, but nothing about his feelings will ever lead me to accept him as or call him a cat. Because that’s delusional. He can sit and his home and meow all he wants. I don’t care but I’m not going to be forced to recognize his delusions because it’s NOT normal
 
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0nelilreb said:
You are smarter than this , I’ve watched you argue with luther and you are being a lot like him now in your arguments . I have specifically been talking about societal norms and why people would be interested in this topic . You’ve intentional avoided every counter that I’ve given, to try and get me to answer how it’s effecting me personally what a small group of others do and try to make it seem normal in society . Are you trying to make a point that we as a society should only care about society and it’s norms if it directly effects us and not worry about things that don’t ?
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I'm saying we all have our own normal that we live by. It's part of what makes us who we are. No one is asking you to have this surgery. No one is asking you to socialize with anyone who has had the surgery. I'm not pulling out degrees and continuums, I'm saying respect that people are allowed to make their own choices as long as they hurt no one else. And someone changing their gender does not hurt anyone. We're talking about consenting adults doing something to their own bodies. Any harm they do is to themselves.

I could really giving a flying **** what society deems "normal". Remember when German society decided Jews weren't normal? Society creates sheep who follow. That's not me or for me. I believe in live and let live.
 
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Weezer said:
In the constant belittling of people who don't fit what some call "normal".
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You are speaking from an emotional standpoint not a logical one. There are some people who do things that are not normal. I am not talking about political opinions I am talking about those who are serial killers or pedo rapists or pyromaniacs or schizophrenic or suffer from gender dysphoria or eat feces or like to be stabbed during sex

Pointing out that this isnt normal behavior or could be harmful to themselves and others are not “belittling them” or “hating them”.

I have dealt with the mentally ill and criminally insane for 20 plus years, knowing their lifestyles and life stories. It’s not out of hate that I deal with them
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You are speaking from an emotional standpoint not a logical one. There are some people who do things that are not normal. I am not talking about political opinions I am talking about those who are serial killers or pedo rapists or pyromaniacs or schizophrenic or suffer from gender dysphoria or eat feces or like to be stabbed during sex

Pointing out that this isnt normal behavior or could be harmful to themselves and others are not “belittling them” or “hating them”.

I have dealt with the mentally ill and criminally insane for 20 plus years, knowing their lifestyles and life stories. It’s not out of hate that I deal with them
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I've not defended people who hurt others. That should not be acceptable.
 
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Weezer said:
In the constant belittling of people who don't fit what some call "normal".
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Have you ever belittled someone because they didn’t agree with your ideas , something they did you thought was silly or just done something you thought was dumb , without hate for them ?
 
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Weezer said:
Not seeing a comparison with abortion. Who is getting hurt if someone decides to get their penis cut off? Like I said before, people create their own norms. Do you want "society" dictating to you what is normal?
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Live and let live. It matters not to me if someone chooses that path.
On the flip side people shouldn't be fired or ostracized for reacting normally and calling she a she and he a he. That's when it crosses a line. I'm not going to allow someone to belittle me or ostracized me for being realistic about 2 genders. I have had to defend this at work. Medically we treat them as male and female. There is no xi pronoun in medical records. There is no protocol for treating those in transition, gender dysphoria or the 12 other variations. Psyche is usually consulted in that case to help them.
Doesn't mean I'm there to make them uncomfortable or judge them, i want them well so they can move on with their lives.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Live and let live. It matters not to me if someone chooses that path.
On the flip side people shouldn't be fired or ostracized for reacting normally and calling she a she and he a he. That's when it crosses a line. I'm not going to allow someone to belittle me or ostracized me for being realistic about 2 genders. I have had to defend this at work. Medically we treat them as male and female. There is no xi pronoun in medical records. There is no protocol for treating those in transition, gender dysphoria or the 12 other variations. Psyche is usually consulted in that case to help them.
Doesn't mean I'm there to make them uncomfortable or judge them, i want them well so they can move on with their lives.
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Exactly. It’s always the ones who have Never worked in law enforcement, legal expertise, the medical field or actual science that always has the weirdest answers to how these things “should be” in those fields and they are bartenders, professors, or insurance salesmen. If they actually dealt with and understood the things we are talking about on both a process level and a personal level they would understand why we say what we do
 
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Weezer said:
I'm saying we all have our own normal that we live by. It's part of what makes us who we are. No one is asking you to have this surgery. No one is asking you to socialize with anyone who has had the surgery. I'm not pulling out degrees and continuums, I'm saying respect that people are allowed to make their own choices as long as they hurt no one else. And someone changing their gender does not hurt anyone. We're talking about consenting adults doing something to their own bodies. Any harm they do is to themselves.

I could really giving a flying **** what society deems "normal". Remember when German society decided Jews weren't normal? Society creates sheep who follow. That's not me or for me. I believe in live and let live.
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I see your Germans and raise you Greeks with their societal acceptance of PEDERASTY . Like I stated earlier , anything that doesn’t recieve push back “ because it doesn’t effect people directly “ still should be of interest to people .
 
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But the poinT was that many of them believe the same as gender dysphoria do. That they were born that way and it’s normal for them and society should accept them the way they are
 
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0nelilreb said:
I see your Germans and raise you Greeks with their societal acceptance of PEDERASTY . Like I stated earlier , anything that doesn’t recieve push back “ because it doesn’t effect people directly “ still should be of interest to people .
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One does harm to others, one does harm to oneself. Big difference IMO.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Exactly. It’s always the ones who have Never worked in law enforcement, legal expertise, the medical field or actual science that always has the weirdest answers to how these things “should be” in those fields and they are bartenders, professors, or insurance salesmen. If they actually dealt with and understood the things we are talking about on both a process level and a personal level they would understand why we say what we do
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Can I kiss your feet oh omnipotent one?
 
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