Transfer Portal Thread

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#601
golfballs said:
Bart Torvik. Started out as a Ken Pom knockoff. But he likes to experiment w different kinds of analytics and he’s becoming kind of renowned for it. However his sausage maker is really just for fun. He looks at historically similar players and how they do in subsequent years and then optimize the lineups based on ratings, position, and minutes then get a net rating for the team. The obvious disclaimer here is that while it puts us 4th it doesn’t consider who other teams around us might still add and w the transfer market being so crazy it will be pretty volatile. However you can take that Pythag rating and compare to the current or prior years and see it’s generally a top 10 rating.
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Sweet. Thanks
 
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therickbol said:
Your first sentence is so hilarious. 18-22 year-olds in this day and age are far from robots. A coach can't flip a switch for them. Yes sometimes coaches can break thru but this idea that if they can't then it is the coaches fault is ridiculous. Geno refuses to even coach players that need him to flip their switch.
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If a coach needs to flip a switch for them but refuses to do it, perhaps he shouldn't have recruited them to his team?

There's no good look for Barnes in the Walker situation as it stands now. It is either a colossal mis-evaluation or a failure as a coach to get him to respond if he washes out here. Barnes seems to recruit an odd mix of players that have not got the physical skills to play at this level or major attitude/off court issues. It's especially painful with Walker because he appears to have the most tools of any of the physically skilled guys that have washed out here under Barnes.

When you've won 60+ championships like Geno you probably know what you're looking for in a recruit and how to get the best from the players you do recruit. I can bet you any amount you'd like to wager than Geno has coached plenty of players up and flipped a switch for them. He built that program from scratch and didn't always have his hand pick of any elite player he wanted.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
If a coach needs to flip a switch for them but refuses to do it, perhaps he shouldn't have recruited them to his team?

There's no good look for Barnes in the Walker situation as it stands now. It is either a colossal mis-evaluation or a failure as a coach to get him to respond if he washes out here. Barnes seems to recruit an odd mix of players that have not got the physical skills to play at this level or major attitude/off court issues. It's especially painful with Walker because he appears to have the most tools of any of the physically skilled guys that have washed out here under Barnes.

When you've won 60+ championships like Geno you probably know what you're looking for in a recruit and how to get the best from the players you do recruit. I can bet you any amount you'd like to wager than Geno has coached plenty of players up and flipped a switch for them. He built that program from scratch and didn't always have his hand pick of any elite player he wanted.
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You are making 2 different arguments. Barnes making an evaluation mistake on Walker is a legit argument. Nobody said he is not trying to get him where he needs to be to earn playing time. The problem is Walker not responding to expectations. That is 100% on him.
 
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Which players in the transfer portal does Tenn have the best chance securing a commitment? How many do you take? Guard, Forward, Center?
 
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WiscVols said:
Which players in the transfer portal does Tenn have the best chance securing a commitment? How many do you take? Guard, Forward, Center?
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Key not Dante is technically not in yet, so not counting them...probably would have to say Dallas Walton, but not sure how interested Tennessee is there...maybe Justin Powell?
 
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Yeiser10 said:
How you feeling about our chances with Powell?
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Don’t have any insight there so just reading tea leaves and what others have shared...Louisville would worry me a bit since he grew up 15 minutes away, UK doesn’t seem like they want him so that’s good news probably...I do wonder if SEC rule about sitting out a year could be an issue or not? Hard to say, but Tennessee really wants him.
 
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bTo you don't think Gardner is interested in committing to us?

Honestly Stewart staying put when his recruiter was kept on the new staff didn't surprise me too much. With all he's been through more change is probably not what he was looking for.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
When you've won 60+ championships like Geno you probably know what you're looking for in a recruit and how to get the best from the players you do recruit. I can bet you any amount you'd like to wager than Geno has coached plenty of players up and flipped a switch for them. He built that program from scratch and didn't always have his hand pick of any elite player he wanted.
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I'm pretty sure he has been hand picking his player for at least 20 years. When you can get 2/3 of the ones you want, it is pretty easy to avoid the risky players.
 
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#620
The details aren’t provided but his model likes the development of Bailey, Santi, and JJJ for next year. I think the concept is based on a similar player profile like KenPom does. Finds historically similar players based on height/weight, statistical profile and class. Then sees how those players progress into the next season and then uses that to forecast their production.

Statistically and size wise, Santi has some pretty favorable player comps. His first two years he’s tracked similarly to Ryan Arcidiacono. Which is interesting since he began his career playing point but then played more 2 in his last 2 years and helped win a title in that role.

Bailey comps with Dayton’s Jordan Sibert and Texas’ Andrew Jones. Both were high usage players their senior season and interestingly played more at the 3.

JJJ had some pretty favorable comps last year, Levi Randolph, Aaron Nesmith, Davon Reed. This year though he comps w lesser known but still good players for their teams. Seton Hall’s Jared Rhoden, Charleston’s Willis Hall, and Miami’s Anthony Lawrence, and Furman’s Clay Mounce. Most of the minutes between them are in the 4 spot which makes some sense based on JJJ’s style of play this year. If we get more help in the front court and JJJ can get his 3pt shot going then hopefully that changes.

His projection for Fulk is the exact same for this year. None of his comps played 6 years so it doesn’t know what to do so just leaving his numbers the same. Which I believe if Fulk comes back I’d expect him to be more like the Fulk from ‘20.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
bTo you don't think Gardner is interested in committing to us?

Honestly Stewart staying put when his recruiter was kept on the new staff didn't surprise me too much. With all he's been through more change is probably not what he was looking for.
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I think Gardner has interest and we do as well, hard to say how far along though. Agree on Stewart.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Woah. This...seems unexpected. I knew it would happen soon, but yikes. You think it causes a ripple effect in our favor? What do you mean?

I wonder who UNC targets as a replacement.
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Didn’t Mose Phillips Watch call this? He also said Cal tho.... 🤞🏻
 
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