Trump promises and proposals tracking thread.

[Sandman 423]

speaking of sheathing, have you had any issues getting ahold of plywood? My parents are getting ready to build their house, and everyone they talk to says they can't get plywood at all. which I find to be bs. Home Depot/Lowes in their area are still stocked. I know thats not where a builder is going to go first, but my thinking is if those retailers have it, some wholesaler in the area has to have some too.

C-H-I-N-A

 

[BowlBrother85]

What's the general consensus on how Trump is doing keeping his promises??

It would probably depend on whether or not you include his "Day One" promises. Trump makes a lot of silly hyperbolic promises that are unrealistic. His supporters never hold him accountable for those things.

 

[Orange_Crush]

It would probably depend on whether or not you include his "Day One" promises. Trump makes a lot of silly hyperbolic promises that are unrealistic. His supporters never hold him accountable for those things.

Probably because they are smart enough to recognize hyperbole and understand its definition.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Probably because they are smart enough to recognize hyperbole and understand its definition.

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I'm sure they are, but would they be equally forgiving of a Democratic Party President, who made such outlandish forecasts?

Will Trump's supporters hold him accountable for a recession, even though his policies would have played no role in such an economic downturn? They did hold the Biden Administration completely responsible for rising inflation in 2021, after all.

 

[volfanhill]

I'm sure they are, but would they be equally forgiving of a Democratic Party President, who made such outlandish forecasts?

Will Trump's supporters hold him accountable for a recession, even though his policies would have played no role in such an economic downturn? They did hold the Biden Administration completely responsible for rising inflation in 2021, after all.

Yes, they won't vote for him in his next election as punishment

 

[whodeycin85]

I'm sure they are, but would they be equally forgiving of a Democratic Party President, who made such outlandish forecasts?

Will Trump's supporters hold him accountable for a recession, even though his policies would have played no role in such an economic downturn? They did hold the Biden Administration completely responsible for rising inflation in 2021, after all.

Pretty sure none believes Biden cured cancer..

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yes, they won't vote for him in his next election as punishment

Cute.

There is no chance that Republicans will be consistent and blame Trump for a recession. When Biden was President, however, it was a different story. He was completely to blame for any negative economic data that was reported during his first few months in office. No considerations were ever given for lagging indicators.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I'm sure they are, but would they be equally forgiving of a Democratic Party President, who made such outlandish forecasts?

Will Trump's supporters hold him accountable for a recession, even though his policies would have played no role in such an economic downturn? They did hold the Biden Administration completely responsible for rising inflation in 2021, after all.

Thank you for admitting that you are a party hack by accusing the other side of party hackery if they were to do what you just did.

You really didn't think about what that whataboutism said about what you just did as opposed to what the opposition may do.

And for the record, there are mindless party hacks on both sides. You just displayed that you are accidentally proud to be what you claim to hate. Kudos.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Thank you for admitting that you are a party hack by accusing the other side of party hackery if they were to do what you just did.

You really didn't think about what that whataboutism said about what you just did as opposed to what the opposition may do.

And for the record, there are mindless party hacks on both sides. You just displayed that you are accidentally proud to be what you claim to hate. Kudos.

LOL.

I said that Trump is not to blame for the looming recession. I understand that economic data is not compiled instantaneously.

Who is the real hack?

 

[Orange_Crush]

LOL.

I said that Trump is not to blame for the looming recession. I understand that economic data is not compiled instantaneously.

Who is the real hack?

You also tried to hold him responsible for obvious hyperbole and then, when called on it, defended yourself by claiming the other side would do it too.

Translation: "Well, OK. Yah. I'm a party hack but it's OK because they are too."

You're the hack.

 

[hndog609]

Cute.

There is no chance that Republicans will be consistent and blame Trump for a recession. When Biden was President, however, it was a different story. He was completely to blame for any negative economic data that was reported during his first few months in office. No considerations were ever given for lagging indicators.

The elephant in the room is who are the D's going to front in that election. In no small way what got Trump elected was massive BS on their side. (Just a for instance Trump basically did with border security before his first bowel movement after election was what Biden et al claimed couldn't be done) Whatever passes for sane/middle D leadership needs to stuff their liabilities into a closet and put up something the swing voters will accept.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You also tried to hold him responsible for obvious hyperbole and then, when called on it, defended yourself by claiming the other side would do it too.

Translation: "Well, OK. Yah. I'm a party hack but it's OK because they are too."

You're the hack.

I just posed a question ..... Would Republicans hold a Democratic Party President responsible for making stupid Day One claims? Of course, they would.

 

[LouderVol]

C-H-I-N-A

I think its more an ongoing issue with C-A-N-A-D-A.

we may import a decent bit of "finish grade" stuff from China, but the unfinished stuff is usually grown, cut, assembled here on the continent.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The elephant in the room is who are the D's going to front in that election. In no small way what got Trump elected was massive BS on their side. (Just a for instance Trump basically did with border security before his first bowel movement after election was what Biden et al claimed couldn't be done) Whatever passes for sane/middle D leadership needs to stuff their liabilities into a closet and put up something the swing voters will accept.

The Democrats have responded by doubling down on the things that alienated the majority of Americans, who...


Just
Want
Normal
Back
!

But the Dem party is controlled by the radical fringe, so they are absolutely dedicated to telling us what normal will be. They refuse to serve the will of the people and instead demand to force feed us their vision of what our will will be.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I just posed a question ..... Would Republicans hold a Democratic Party President responsible for making stupid Day One claims? Of course, they would.

And again... You are admitting to being a party hack, and apparently are OK with it as long as your enemies are just as hacky as you are. You don't seem to understand that every time you defend the thought with a whatabout answer, you're just admitting to being as bad as them. Just the other side of the same currency.

Admit it. It was hilarious that you tried to hold Trump accountable for things that you, yourself defined as Trump's "hyperbole". Again, that word means "not to be taken literally". So, either you are enough of a party hack to try to hold him responsible for things that you believe he never intended as literal, or you are stupid enough to not know the definitions of words you use.

But that's OK, because if Biden had used hyperbole, Republicans would have tried to hold him accountable for it.

OK. You're as manipulative as your enemies. Congrats, I guess? You really won that one.

 

[McDad]

It would probably depend on whether or not you include his "Day One" promises. Trump makes a lot of silly hyperbolic promises that are unrealistic. His supporters never hold him accountable for those things.

I think there is a lot of room for that discussion. so far. We've only put a check mark by those things that are agreed delivered Promises. He's made a lot of bombastic claims about day one, and I don't know how we're going to handle those. is the promise delivered, but not in the On the right time frame so he gets half credit, he gets no credit? I think we, as the contributors of this thread will have to make a decision in good faith and hold him to the proper standards. I'm very comfortable with that.

 

[hndog609]

But the Dem party is controlled by the radical fringe, so they are absolutely dedicated to telling us what normal will be. They refuse to serve the will of the people and instead demand to force feed us their vision of what our will will be.

This is exactly what the "liabilities" I cited meant. At a minimum they need that message nerfed which their lackeys in MSM have already started doing. (see firing Joy Reid, etc)

 

[BowlBrother85]

And again... You are admitting to being a party hack, and apparently are OK with it as long as your enemies are just as hacky as you are. You don't seem to understand that every time you defend the thought with a whatabout answer, you're just admitting to being as bad as them. Just the other side of the same currency.

Admit it. It was hilarious that you tried to hold Trump accountable for things that you, yourself defined as Trump's "hyperbole". Again, that word means "not to be taken literally". So, either you are enough of a party hack to try to hold him responsible for things that you believe he never intended as literal, or you are stupid enough to not know the definitions of words you use.

But that's OK, because if Biden had used hyperbole, Republicans would have tried to hold him accountable for it.

OK. You're as manipulative as your enemies. Congrats, I guess? You really won that one.

I never said that Trump's stupid Day One predictions should be taken literally .... just as his stupid prediction that he would eliminate the debt was never taken seriously.

I said that Republicans would not hold him responsible for those claims, but they would take a Democratic Party President to task for making them. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be a strength of yours.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The elephant in the room is who are the D's going to front in that election. In no small way what got Trump elected was massive BS on their side. (Just a for instance Trump basically did with border security before his first bowel movement after election was what Biden et al claimed couldn't be done) Whatever passes for sane/middle D leadership needs to stuff their liabilities into a closet and put up something the swing voters will accept.

It will be interesting to see what direction both parties go in 2028. Will Trump go all in for Vance, or would he remain neutral if Marco Rubio also runs? For the Democrats, I think it should be Josh Shapiro. If it's Gavin Newsom .... that would spell trouble.

 

[StarRaider]

sticking this here... i dont know about any inflation promises

 

[Orange_Crush]

I never said that Trump's stupid Day One predictions should be taken literally .... just as his stupid prediction that he would eliminate the debt was never taken seriously.

I said that Republicans would not hold him responsible for those claims, but they would take a Democratic Party President to task for making them. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be a strength of yours.

I think reading comprehension is fairly solid on this one. Here's your exchange:

What's the general consensus on how Trump is doing keeping his promises??

It would probably depend on whether or not you include his "Day One" promises. Trump makes a lot of silly hyperbolic promises that are unrealistic. His supporters never hold him accountable for those things.

If they were not meant to be taken literally, why should you expect that anyone should hold him responsible for them?

Only after having to wear that did you whatabout.

(I predict that 'I never said he should be held responsible, just that his followers wouldn't hold him responsible' is the next card.)

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

sticking this here... i dont know about any inflation promises

2.8 still higher than target. 3.1 all in.

With that being said, CPI lags months...

 

[BowlBrother85]

I think reading comprehension is fairly solid on this one. Here's your exchange:




If they were not meant to be taken literally, why should you expect that anyone should hold him responsible for them?

Only after having to wear that did you whatabout.

(I predict that 'I never said he should be held responsible, just that his followers wouldn't hold him responsible' is the next card.)

I predict that I'm done with your gotcha game. LOL.

Fine .... For whatever it's worth? You win. Congratulations. Your prize is in the mail.

 

[utvolpj]

If they were not meant to be taken literally, why should you expect that anyone should hold him responsible for them?

There should at least be some kind of an effort. If you claim you can easily pay off the entire debt but then add $8T you're just not a serious leader

 

[McDad]

2.8 still higher than target. 3.1 all in.

With that being said, CPI lags months...

there are several different ways different outlets Figure inflation. I never know which is which. I don't like the one that tosses out energy prices.
It's the one posted legit?