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#926
#926
McDad said:
there are several different ways different outlets Figure inflation. I never know which is which. I don't like the one that tosses out energy prices.
It's the one posted legit?
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I dont love these ones.

1. CPI is a lagging indicator.
2. These are manipulated like crazy. WalMart, Costco, and Home Depot are the best purchasers on the planet. For the entirety of their histories, their cost was always less than cpi on their skus (usually significantly). However, for 18-24 months during Biden admin, their costs far exceeded reported reported CPI. Did they forget their biggest competitive advantage or was the govt figures BS....
 
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#927
#927
BowlBrother85 said:
Cute.

There is no chance that Republicans will be consistent and blame Trump for a recession. When Biden was President, however, it was a different story. He was completely to blame for any negative economic data that was reported during his first few months in office. No considerations were ever given for lagging indicators.
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Laughable. Trump supporters will do the exact thing Biden supporters did. Make excuses and pretend it isn't so bad. Absurd to pretend that this is not exactly what Biden supporters did for years. Hell they bought the lie so bad they were claiming he was sharp and in control all the way up until they kicked his ass out of the race. No Biden supporter can try to accuse others of sticking their head in the sand with a straight face. Arguably the biggest scandal in potus history.
 
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#928
volfanhill said:
Laughable. Trump supporters will do the exact thing Biden supporters did. Make excuses and pretend it isn't so bad. Absurd to pretend that this is not exactly what Biden supporters did for years. Hell they bought the lie so bad they were claiming he was sharp and in control all the way up until they kicked his ass out of the race. No Biden supporter can try to accuse others of sticking their head in the sand with a straight face. Arguably the biggest scandal in potus history.
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That's laughable alright.
 
#929
#929
volfanhill said:
Laughable. Trump supporters will do the exact thing Biden supporters did. Make excuses and pretend it isn't so bad. Absurd to pretend that this is not exactly what Biden supporters did for years. Hell they bought the lie so bad they were claiming he was sharp and in control all the way up until they kicked his ass out of the race. No Biden supporter can try to accuse others of sticking their head in the sand with a straight face. Arguably the biggest scandal in potus history.
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What else would compare? Watergate? Clinton/Lewinsky? Teapot Dome? Whiskey Ring?

I don’t even think the Biden thing is arguable. It is clearly the worst scandal in POTUS history; we just have to wait til the people who make such lists aren’t the people who perpetuated the fraud before it will be labeled as such.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
What else would compare? Watergate? Clinton/Lewinsky? Teapot Dome? Whiskey Ring?

I don’t even think the Biden thing is arguable. It is clearly the worst scandal in POTUS history; we just have to wait til the people who make such lists aren’t the people who perpetuated the fraud before it will be labeled as such.
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Dumb.

Did he lie about intelligence (supposedly) showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, in order to justify an invasion which destabilized the Middle East region and led to the deaths of 4,431 American servicemen and women?

Did he incite a riot at the United States Capitol?

Idiots. Both of you.
 
#931
#931
volfanhill said:
Laughable. Trump supporters will do the exact thing Biden supporters did. Make excuses and pretend it isn't so bad. Absurd to pretend that this is not exactly what Biden supporters did for years. Hell they bought the lie so bad they were claiming he was sharp and in control all the way up until they kicked his ass out of the race. No Biden supporter can try to accuse others of sticking their head in the sand with a straight face. Arguably the biggest scandal in potus history.
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To be fair, not sure Reagan was capable of being POTUS in 87 or 88...
 
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#932
BigOrangeMojo said:
To be fair, not sure Reagan was capable of being POTUS in 87 or 88...
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To be even more fair ....

Senior officials in the Reagan Administration sold arms to Iran and used the proceeds to fund an anti-Sandinista rebel force in Nicaragua.

The sale of these arms to Iran came less than 10 years after Iran had taken American diplomats hostage in an embassy in Tehran.
 
#933
#933
BowlBrother85 said:
Dumb.

Did he lie about intelligence (supposedly) showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, in order to justify an invasion which destabilized the Middle East region and led to the deaths of 4,431 American servicemen and women?

Did he incite a riot at the United States Capitol?

Idiots. Both of you.
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That is the point. I don’t know what Biden did, and what was done under his apparent authority.

A President making bad decisions is just that, a President making bad decisions.

During Biden’s presidency, we don’t know what he is responsible for, and what was done by proxy.

If you can’t see that the American people not knowing who is acting as president is worse than having a bad president, well, you aren’t capable of critical thought; I am not surprised you would resort to insulting those of us who are. 🤷‍♂️
 
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#934
Ritzwatch said:
That is the point. I don’t know what Biden did, and what was done under his apparent authority.

A President making bad decisions is just that, a President making bad decisions.

During Biden’s presidency, we don’t know what he is responsible for, and what was done by proxy.

If you can’t see that the American people not knowing who is acting as president is worse than having a bad president, well, you aren’t capable of critical thought; I am not surprised you would resort to insulting those of us who are. 🤷‍♂️
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If you can't see how selling arms to a state sponsor of terrorism, who had taken 50 of your diplomats hostage ... and how lying about intelligence gathering to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation which led to a war that killed over 4,000 American servicemen and women is more egregious than anything Biden ever did ....

Then, in that case, I'm going to call your critical thought into question as well. It's very much unknown when exactly Ronald Reagan began experiencing symptoms of Alzheimer's. He clearly was not closely involved in high stakes decision-making involving his own administration.
 
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#935
BowlBrother85 said:
If you can't see how selling arms to a state sponsor of terrorism, who had taken 50 of your diplomats hostage ... and how lying about intelligence gathering to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation which led to a war that killed over 4,000 American servicemen and women is more egregious than anything Biden ever did ....
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No one is more blind than he who will not see.
 
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#936
Ritzwatch said:
That is the point. I don’t know what Biden did, and what was done under his apparent authority.

A President making bad decisions is just that, a President making bad decisions.

During Biden’s presidency, we don’t know what he is responsible for, and what was done by proxy.

If you can’t see that the American people not knowing who is acting as president is worse than having a bad president, well, you aren’t capable of critical thought; I am not surprised you would resort to insulting those of us who are. 🤷‍♂️
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Have you seen this interview with Mike Johnson??
 
#938
#938
BowlBrother85 said:
.... or he who is politically tribal. There were very real losses of American life that resulted from the Iraq War, and it was based on lies.
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My guy, if you have me as either “tribal” or pro-war you have not read many of my posts.

Do you have me as someone who is concerned that executive decision making authority may have ultimately been exercised by someone other than the duly-elected executive during Joe Biden’s presidency? If so, then you are on the right track.
 
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#939
Ritzwatch said:
My guy, if you have me as either “tribal” or pro-war you have not read many of my posts.

Do you have me as someone who is concerned that executive decision making authority may have ultimately been exercised by someone other than the duly-elected executive during Joe Biden’s presidency? If so, then you are on the right track.
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That's definitely possible, and not a good thing if it happened, but it's also speculation. We don't really know.

Therefore, I can't put it in the category of scandals that we do know : Watergate, Iran/Contra, George W. Bush's 2003 State of the Union lies about Iraq and Trump's conduct after losing the 2020 Presidential Election.

With Reagan, it's not speculation. Reagan basically admitted that he had no knowledge of the Iranian arms deals. That was a remarkable admission. His administration sold arms to Iran, and Reagan didn't have a clue.
 
#943
#943
jmacvols1 said:


Trump's oil policy has also brought the price of gas down.
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So not posting a policy and you're using a lagging indicator to claim this. What was done prior to that to make it happen? Of course the Trump economic advisor is going to paint a rosy picture but the politics of what's going on right now makes it a much different story

Also not sure the Biden # is correct
 
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#944
utvolpj said:
So not posting a policy and you're using a lagging indicator to claim this. What was done prior to that to make it happen? Of course the Trump economic advisor is going to paint a rosy picture but the politics of what's going on right now makes off a different story

Also not sure the Biden # is correct
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#945


Biden grew the gov't 3 times faster than the economy giving "paper growth" GDP numbers for Biden. Take away gov't spending we have been in a recession the last 4 years.



..and lets not forget Biden "Inflation reduction act" had nothing to do with inflation but was just a big money give away to his environmental cronies. And what policy of Biden has gas price currently lowering? It was Biden's oil polcies that increased energy cost resulting in highest inflation in decades.
 
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#947
BowlBrother85 said:
Dumb.

Did he lie about intelligence (supposedly) showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, in order to justify an invasion which destabilized the Middle East region and led to the deaths of 4,431 American servicemen and women?

Did he incite a riot at the United States Capitol?

Idiots. Both of you.
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You're both wrong. Trumputin Gate and the weaponization of the JD against Trump will be the worst .
 
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