Trump promises and proposals tracking thread.

[General Jack]

Yep Trump spent like a moron. And then the next moron spent more

And we're about to go full drunken sailor in Bangkok over the next year years.

 

[C-south]

Agitators are best for the dirtiest of clothes - and I'm trying to clean for others.

You’re more like an impeller….worthless.

 

[General Jack]

Decreases to tax rates have not historically correlated to decreases in tax revenues.

Cutting the already stretched-thin IRS in half, including enforcement, will result in the largest taxpayers having have even less accountability. Smart thing to do since the IRS is our government's profit center.

For those expecting a refund, expect long delays.

For those calling the IRS with questions.... good luck.

 

[McDad]

Cutting the already stretched-thin IRS in half, including enforcement, will result the largest taxpayers having have even less accountability. Smart thing to do since the IRS is our government's profit center.

For those expecting a refund, expect long delays.

For those calling the IRS with questions.... good luck.

None of that relates to decreased taxes and decreased revenues.

 

[General Jack]

None of that relates to decreased taxes and decreased revenues.

Ignoring what's going on at the IRS won't make the problem go away.

 

[General Jack]

None of that relates to decreased taxes and decreased revenues.

This is tax gap, caused by difficulties in getting the extremely wealthy to pay what they owe. The same folks that are now running our governemnt.

If you truly wanted to find fraud and abuse, this is where you would start.

What is the tax gap?

taxpolicycenter.org

 

[McDad]

Ignoring what's going on at the IRS won't make the problem go away.

I'm trying to understand you. 1st post is concerned about cuts in future services. Next few posts are about Trumping spending more than anyone else. Next couple of posts are back to concerns about future revenue which (i assume you think) will decrease services.
You do appreciate revenue has a history of increasing as does spending, correct?

 

[McDad]

This is tax gap, caused by difficulties in getting the extremely wealthy to pay what they owe. The same folks that are now running our governemnt.

If you truly wanted to find fraud and abuse, this is where you would start.

What is the tax gap?

taxpolicycenter.org

First couple of sentences are irrelevant.

Doge is about PR. It's not really about fraud and abuse.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

My sincere hope is that you are merely a troll.

He's deranged like loother, lg, Monty and jwells

 

[General Jack]

First couple of sentences are irrelevant.

Doge is about PR. It's not really about fraud and abuse.

Agree with the bolded, not with the above it. Are you arguing a tax gap doesn't exist or doesn't matter?

 

[McDad]

Agree with the bolded, not with the above it. Are you arguing a tax gap doesn't exist or doesn't matter?

Neither.
It's irrelevant because tax cheating is against the law. Those who owe taxes will either pay, have assets seized, go to jail or some combo of the three.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I don't have a "shtick," ..... and Trump's following meets the definition of a Cult of Personality.

 

[General Jack]

Neither.
It's irrelevant because tax cheating is against the law. Those who owe taxes will either pay, have assets seized, go to jail or some combo of the three.

Unfortunately that's not true and I've seen it first hand.

What actually happens is that the IRS agents, with limited resources, can't keep up with the expensive lawyers. That, and the ultra wealthy get cover from their buddies at high levels of government. IRS resources are limited by design to facilitate the aforementioned outcome.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You made me think about about a hilarious scene in the movie Private Parts.

Wasn't that the Howard Stern movie? That went straight to VHS didn't it?

 

[Vol423]

Wasn't that the Howard Stern movie? That went straight to VHS didn't it?

Howard Stern movie? Yes. Paul Giamatti is great in that movie. Straight to VHS? I have no idea. I didn't see it in the movie theater though.

 

[hog88]

Cutting the already stretched-thin IRS in half, including enforcement, will result in the largest taxpayers having have even less accountability. Smart thing to do since the IRS is our government's profit center.

For those expecting a refund, expect long delays.

For those calling the IRS with questions.... good luck.

Refunds are usually done electronically and no employees touch the vast majority of them.

 

[McDad]

Unfortunately that's not true and I've seen it first hand.

What actually happens is that the IRS agents, with limited resources, can't keep up with the expensive lawyers. That, and the ultra wealthy get cover from their buddies at high levels of government. IRS resources are limited by design to facilitate the aforementioned outcome.

Expensive lawyers don't circumvent tax law. It delays the collections when there are disputes. No one who owes, especially the wealthy, simply lives life without paying what has been decided they owe.

 

[Majors]

Does this change the messaging by the left? Are we still saying pay your fair share?

 

[McDad]

Does this change the messaging by the left? Are we still saying pay your fair share?

In other words, it will never happen.

 

[StarRaider]

first time i ever heard the irs has limited resources

 

[Majors]

In other words, it will never happen.

It has a nice * for it to happen. If the first domino happens to fall, it’ll be a funny watching the left dance to their base.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Does this change the messaging by the left? Are we still saying pay your fair share?

So half past never?

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

first time i ever heard the irs has limited resources

Poorly run Democratic job bank....

 

[volfanhill]

It has a nice * for it to happen. If the first domino happens to fall, it’ll be a funny watching the left dance to their base.

If the

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Ignoring what's going on at the IRS won't make the problem go away.

Decades of mismanagement is the problem

Treating it as a Democrat job bank instead of using it to efficiently collect revenue is a problem

Both parties using preferences in the tax code to effectuate partisan policy is the problem.