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Orange_Crush said:
Eh, like I said:



Keep posting.
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Can you get a driver's license with zero depth perception?

Once again, you're posting false claims (seems to be a pattern). Show me where I ever said I was operating from a place of hate? I said I hate trump and trumpism. It is from a place of love for others and the desire for a better society that I post.

Love not hate!!! That's my motto, and why I hate trump.
 
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luthervol said:
Can you get a driver's license with zero depth perception?

Once again, you're posting false claims (seems to be a pattern). Show me where I ever said I was operating from a place of hate? I said I hate trump and trumpism. It is from a place of love for others and the desire for a better society that I post.

Love not hate!!! That's my motto, and why I hate trump.
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lol Keep luthering.

Now, repeat your tired "concrete", spectrum, "my hate is better than their hate" routine, troll.
 
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luthervol said:
Can you get a driver's license with zero depth perception?

Once again, you're posting false claims (seems to be a pattern). Show me where I ever said I was operating from a place of hate? I said I hate trump and trumpism. It is from a place of love for others and the desire for a better society that I post.

Love not hate!!! That's my motto, and why I hate trump.
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yes. you are allowed to get a license if you only have one eye, which means next to 0 depth perception.
 
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LouderVol said:
Its going to be the 3rd largest Line item in our budget at the next budget/CR.

Social Security
Medicare
Debt interest payments
Military

and Trump has no plan on how to even stop it from getting worse.
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I haven't heard a plan from him either.
In fairness, it shouldn't be his plan, it should be Congress' plan.
(But, I do recognize things don't work that way in our current Constitutional Autocracy.)
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Yea I think cutting a BPA which has already spent 1 billion on a 10 billion BPA is a 9 billion is saving over a year long BPA...now should Doge claim that as a 9 billion dollar savings??? Against their 2 trillion goal I think yes...as immediate IDK??? Because it is marked to be spent hut isn't actually paid out yet
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You are not fully grasping what the DOGE is doing. When they cancelled 6 BPA's for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, they included the ceiling price for all 6 prospective contractors for the same work. The DOGE calculated $600 million as being immediate savings. However, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was never going to spend $600 million for this one job. They were going to hire one of those prospective contractors for a maximum price of $100 million for this one job. That means that the DOGE inflated their potential savings by a minimum of $500 million, and they still have not made an adjustment to their figures even though it has been brought to their attention many times.

There are only 2 conclusions to be drawn here :

1) The DOGE did not understand what a blanket purchase agreement (BPA) was. That is inexcusable for people who are serving as auditors of federal agencies.

2) The DOGE can not admit when they have done something outrageously wrong, and they are refusing to make corrections and report the actual value of the savings that their restructuring initiatives are providing to American taxpayers.

If you honestly believe the figures that DOGE is reporting as "savings," then that makes you a very gullible person, who doesn't care about the facts. You just want to believe whatever Trump and his minions tell you.
 
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GVF said:
It would still be a savings.

On my production line, if I run a lean event on a manufacturing part that has been experiencing 30% waste that will amount to $250K loss over the next 9 months, and the results reduce waste to 7% and $225K savings, it is still a savings because we prevented a loss that would have been incurred unchecked. I get to claim that as a savings.
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You guys do not understand how the DOGE has arrived at their "savings" figures.

Think of it this way .....

1) You are planning to go to lunch and you have a maximum budget of $30.

2) You are trying to decide whether or not to go to Chili's, Outback or Olive Garden.

3) You decide that you would rather stay at home, and just heat up some leftover pizza instead.

4) You did not save yourself $90. At most, you saved $30, because that was the most that you were ever going to spend for that one lunch, anyway.

The way that the DOGE is calculating their "savings" they would conclude that you saved $90, because you were considering having lunch at 3 different places and $30 x 3 = $90 .... but since you were only going to ever eat one meal .... you only saved money from one of them. That = a maximum of $30 in savings by staying at home and eating leftover pizza.

Doesn't that make the DOGE sound stupid? And they won't correct it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You guys do not understand how the DOGE has arrived at their "savings" figures.

Think of it this way .....

1) You are planning to go to lunch and you have a maximum budget of $30.

2) You are trying to decide whether or not to go to Chili's, Outback or Olive Garden.

3) You decide that you would rather stay at home, and just heat up some leftover pizza instead.

4) You did not save yourself $90. At most, you saved $30, because that was the most that you were ever going to spend for that one lunch, anyway.

The way that the DOGE is calculating their "savings" they would conclude that you saved $90, because you were considering having lunch at 3 different places and $30 x 3 = $90 .... but since you were only going to ever eat one meal .... you only saved money from one of them. That = a maximum of $30 in savings by staying at home and eating leftover pizza.

Doesn't that make the DOGE sound stupid? And they won't correct it.
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I understand what your saying...so for companies what is the incentive to have a BPA with the government of there is no guarantee it's going to be used??? Also how many of these BPAs do not get used??? And I know the website says there is no minimum required in the BPA but it makes no sense for a company to compete and win an unguaranteed contract. Would you place a order at mcdondalds have them make the food but then go to Arby's, there would be incentive without a guarantee..
 
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DOGE views the world through a private equity lens, which simply will not work in government. Ruthless efficiency leads to outliers being disregarded, ignored or scorned. Government is intended to protect and service, private equity is intended to maximize profits in the short term. They are entirely fundamentally different in their missions. The public interest is not served through chaos and trolling - fundamentals which are hardwired into trump and old spice.

I muse on when MAGA will realize the ruse (if ever).

When they lose healthcare due to medicaid spending cuts or closure of rural hospitals?
When national parks are dangerous and unclean?
When the farmers have no export market and are no longer subsidized due to spending cuts?
When disabled veterans can't get help from the VA due to staff reduction?
When America no longer has allies because we can't be trusted?
When they actually read the Bible and remember to love thy neighbor and those who are vulnerable and marginalized?
 
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General Jack said:
DOGE views the world through a private equity lens, which simply will not work in government. Ruthless efficiency leads to outliers being disregarded, ignored or scorned. Government is intended to protect and service, private equity is intended to maximize profits in the short term. They are entirely fundamentally different in their missions. The public interest is not served through chaos and trolling - fundamentals which are hardwired into trump and old spice.

I muse on when MAGA will realize the ruse (if ever).

When they lose healthcare due to medicaid spending cuts or closure of rural hospitals?
When national parks are dangerous and unclean?
When the farmers have no export market and are no longer subsidized due to spending cuts?
When disabled veterans can't get help from the VA due to staff reduction?
When America no longer has allies because we can't be trusted?
When they actually read the Bible and remember to love thy neighbor and those who are vulnerable and marginalized?
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Your musings are interesting.

Did you know the actual budget is increasing?
 
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volfanhill said:
A printer with, what appears to be, unlimited ink?
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I'm glad you mentioned that because the largest increase was during trump's first term. His cuts to the IRS will reduce what we are able to fund ourselves so you can expect big increases over the next 4 years. And since no one likes an entitled bully, tariffs aren't going to cover it.

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General Jack said:
I'm glad you mentioned that because the largest increase was during trump's first term. His cuts to the IRS will reduce what we are able to fund ourselves so you can expect big increases over the next 4 years. And since no one likes an entitled bully, tariffs aren't going to cover it.

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Yep Trump spent like a moron. And then the next moron spent more
 
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