Trump to sign national security funding bill, then declare State of Emergency

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InstrumentalVol said:
Honestly, I dont really see why liberals, aka LibTURDS as my 75 year old aunt calls them on Facebook, even worries about this wall. I mean, look, the Founding Fathers put these powers in the constitution SPECIFICALLY for this purpose! Once you LIBS see that Trump is going to be the President ever for the next 35 years youll see! While my brain is filling up with non-partisan, EDUCATIONAL and FACT BASED programs like Sean Hannity, Rush, Ann Coulter & reading REAL news like Breitbart, TrumpIsKing.com & other UNBIAS sources, youll be crying over CNN!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::oops::oops::oops::eek::eek::D:p:p:p:p:p:p:p #MAGA


SERIOUSLY!! I think Alex Jones mentioned that there was a part of the constitution that the Founding Fathers actually hid this exclusive clause behind a blacklight (which, all Glory goes to our heavenly father Jepus Christ for blessing us for such intelligent MEN to start this country) that you can only see when you have one hand on the bible & another on a Dale Earnhardt 1995 poster while chanting "Minorities Shouldnt Have Rights" three times looking in a mirror.
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I almost passed over this wall of text but am so happy I went back and read it. I encourage everyone to go back and bask in the glory of this gem.
 
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carlos86 said:
The Opioid crisis wasn’t caused by the drug cartels. It was caused by American pharmaceutical companies.
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This is from pharmacy.com. Along with opioid death numbers from 2011 it appears they both are too blame, the pharmaceutical industry and illicit drugs.
2010 we had some unprecedented illicit drug overdoses at our hospital. Including a stretch of young men smoking fentanyl patches and heroine deaths. Cocaine was a close second to heroine.
2011 i saw Medicare fraud with prescription drugs first hand while deaths from illicit drugs continued. I remember thinking heroine was making a big resurgence and its still a problem today.
The article above from pharmacy.com is what i saw playing out in real life in critical care and in the surrounding metropolitan area where i lived near Notre Dame. Heroine had poured into the area and overdoses reflected that. The pain clinic epidemic of multiple clinics popping up started heavily on 2008-09. Practitioners started requiring chronic pain clients to be under a pain management service. I saw almost an equal amount of legal drug problems as we did illicit at that time and into 2010.
At present time we get cocaine induced cardiomyopathies, heroine overdoses and meth pts 10:1 over legal drug overdoses. We often have police around the unit talking about their experiences in the street, they tend to all agree that illicit drugs are most often the problem now.
I think highlighting the pharmaceutical industries involvement in the opioid epidemic was a good thing. Unfortunately it is not the only cause of drug deaths.
 
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Septic said:
Imagine Obama taking money frm the DoD to help pay for the ACA. Bricks would been shat.
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For the life of me I don’t see how people who are ok with this don’t see how this is going to be shoved right up the GOP’s butt when the next Dem President is elected. It’s going to be a gun or healhcare move.
 
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carlos86 said:
“The majority of addictions to opioids does not stem from hard and illicit drugs such as heroin. Rather, most begin their addiction to opioids in the form of prescriptive opioidslegally prescribed for pain.”
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The opioid crisis was created by drug addicts. Nit the pharmaceutical companies who make these life saving drugs. Its like blaming lung cancer on Phillip Morris.
 
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volfanhill said:
For the life of me I don’t see how people who are ok with this don’t see how this is going to be shoved right up the GOP’s butt when the next Dem President is elected. It’s going to be a gun or healhcare move.
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Does it really matter? We the people will lose in the end one way or another. Thats how government works.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The opioid crisis was created by drug addicts. Nit the pharmaceutical companies who make these life saving drugs. Its like blaming lung cancer on Phillip Morris.
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So your telling me that doctors never over prescribed opioids to patients??? Or didn’t do so because pharmaceuticals were paying extra. This is like when VA doctors we’re that to veterans and they became addicted to painkillers
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don’t want to hear any of you pretend you want to lower healthcare costs if you really believe someone should be examined before they can purchase an opioid
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The only way you can get legal opioids is through a prescription written by a doctor. General practitioners rarely deal with it now and refer long term users to pain clinics. Illicit opioids are a different story, they are sold all the time on the streets.
 
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carlos86 said:
So your telling me that doctors never over prescribed opioids to patients??? Or didn’t do so because pharmaceuticals were paying extra. This is like when VA doctors we’re that to veterans and they became addicted to painkillers
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Of course doctors have over prescribed opioids. But they are between a rock and a hard place. When a patient complains of pain, you want to relieve it. Opioids are life savers for many people. The pharmaceutical companies are easy targets but in this situation its not that clear. Pain management is extremely tricky. Are pharmaceutical companies to blame? Yes they have their share of blame. But more responsibility falls on the individual. People know how addictive these things can be.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The opioid crisis was created by drug addicts. Nit the pharmaceutical companies who make these life saving drugs. Its like blaming lung cancer on Phillip Morris.
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Back to supply and demand. The pharmaceutical companies made bank before they got their hands slapped being a good supplier. After that the demand didn't change the supply just came from different sources.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The only way you can get legal opioids is through a prescription written by a doctor. General practitioners rarely deal with it now and refer long term users to pain clinics. Illicit opioids are a different story, they are sold all the time on the streets.
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Government regulation adds unnecessary costs. Allow costumers to purchase directly from the pharmacy without jumping through the additional and unnecessary hoops. The doctors doesn’t know if you’re in pain. Only you do.
 
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Septic said:
Imagine Obama taking money frm the DoD to help pay for the ACA. Bricks would been shat.
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An actual case can be made that this is for defense. The issue isn’t where the money is coming from. It’s how it’s getting done
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The opioid crisis was created by drug addicts. Nit the pharmaceutical companies who make these life saving drugs. Its like blaming lung cancer on Phillip Morris.
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Errr... Not a great analogy. There really isn't a medically-indicated use for cigarettes. Opioids remain one of the most effective agents for short-term and post-op pain relief.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Because they're addictive and dangerous?
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I would challenge your definition of “addiction”. Are you familiar with the rat park study?

But even if I believed that one dose could send a healthy human into full fledged addiction, I still wouldn’t support regulation
 
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