Trump to sign national security funding bill, then declare State of Emergency

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InVOLuntary said:
Surely you see the difference in blaming something on Obama and referencing him as it relates to Obama? If not, I've given you way too much credit.
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So, Obama and Pelosi have been consistent with adding more barriers. That seems undeniable, but what the hell was was Ryan and McConnell doing over the last several years?

Trump says "I want it all, and I want it now.". He can't have it that way, so he throws a national emergency tantrum.

It's hilarious
 
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hog88 said:
Trump needs to lead and declaring a national emergency over the wall is not leadership.

He could win a lot of support by simply having a presidential address, announce that in teh interest of cooperation he is going to sign this bill even though he doesn't like it because x,y,z. Also announce that he is not going to declare an emergency and do a constitutional end-a-round like his predecessors because he believes in the rule of law. Lay out the case (rightly/wrongly) how the Democrats are more interested in illegal immigrants than border security and he will continue to press them for funding.
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I agree but that won't have much if any impact.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Sure it does.

Research. Try it.
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I'm a busy man. If you've got something to say, say it. And I'm still not sure why the powers of the English monarchy, whether they be substantial or minimal, have anything to with what I'm arguing.
 
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carlos86 said:
I actually think this will be expedited through the courts. They will ask the federal courts for a stay of the national emergency order. The courts will grant it because the admit will fail the prove to the courts that there is indeed a national emergency at the border.
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I honestly don't think Trump want's this fight but he has no choice at this point. Optics on the appearance of "winning" is more important than the sanity of it all. His ego won't allow him to look like a loser even if means wiping his ass with the Constitution.
 
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jvol1 said:
I'm a busy man. If you've got something to say, say it. And I'm still not sure why the powers of the English monarchy, whether they be substantial or minimal, have anything to with what I'm arguing.
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I'm arguing that we, as a nation, decided the Parliamentary system just wasn't for us. And so, crafted that Constitution that tends to still be envied by more than a few nations around the world.

But of course, mouthbreathers like you still cannot get over the asshurt from the 2016 election and want to dick around with a system of government that's worked well for over 200 years. Why? Because you lost and you cannot get over it. Trump wins the Electoral College. Your response is "abolish the electoral college." You would prefer doing away with the three equal but separate branches because you don't like Trump.

Grow up. Take your licks over and stop suggesting we change our entire form of government because you can't handle losing an election.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I agree but that won't have much if any impact.
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I believe that it would.

Right now what I see between Trump, Pelosi and Schummer is what I see when I pick up my granddaughter from daycare, a bunch of crying toddlers. This is a perfect opportunity for him to be Presidential and crush teh Democrats.
 
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hog88 said:
I believe that it would.

Right now what I see between Trump, Pelosi and Schummer is what I see when I pick up my granddaughter from daycare, a bunch of crying toddlers. This is a perfect opportunity for him to be Presidential and crush teh Democrats.
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You are making the mistake of thinking that Democrat voters exercise reason.
 
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carlos86 said:
I actually think this will be expedited through the courts. They will ask the federal courts for a stay of the national emergency order. The courts will grant it because the admit will fail the prove to the courts that there is indeed a national emergency at the border.
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Even when expedited Courts move at a glacial pace. Granting the stay doesn't end the case. It just preserves the status quo.
 
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hog88 said:
I believe that it would.

Right now what I see between Trump, Pelosi and Schummer is what I see when I pick up my granddaughter from daycare, a bunch of crying toddlers. This is a perfect opportunity for him to be Presidential and crush teh Democrats.
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Why start now? I thought this was how the trumpers liked him, wild-eyed and low rent?
 
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lol, he was mocking Xi Jinping, as if he were quoting him speaking like a
the stereotype of a Native American.
 
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Septic said:
I honestly don't think Trump want's this fight but he has no choice at this point. Optics on the appearance of "winning" is more important than the sanity of it all. His ego won't allow him to look like a loser even if means wiping his ass with the Constitution.
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Mitch McConnell told him the whole wall deal was a stretch. Declaring the emergency makes him look politically weak. He should have just taken the loss and live to fight another day. It has also put the Senste Republicans in a bad spot. They almost have to condemn this action or accept the possibility of the other part doing the same thing.
 
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hog88 said:
See @1972 Grad this is an example of what I'm talking about. The mouth-breathers are beyond reasoning with, they have nothing of subsistence or intelligence to add.
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I remember when you folks used to jabber endlessly about the deficit, unilateral executive orders and the Constitution. Those were the good ole' days.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Even when expedited Courts move at a glacial pace. Granting the stay doesn't end the case. It just preserves the status quo.
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The status quo would mean that the so called emergency declaration can’t go into effect until the case is litigated in federal court.

 
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carlos86 said:
Mitch McConnell told him the whole wall deal was a stretch. Declaring the emergency makes him look politically weak. He should have just taken the loss and live to fight another day. It has also put the Senste Republicans in a bad spot. They almost have to condemn this action or accept the possibility of the other part doing the same thing.
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It's because he is. This bozo has been out of his depth from day one. I'll bet he really believed that he could outmaneuver, outwit and wheel and deal his way through Washington. He's had people sucking up to him for so long he believed what they were saying. Nancy freaking Pelosi keeps eating his lunch and his ego is in tatters.
 
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hog88 said:
I still do, hence my objection to Trump declaring a national emergency. It's called consistency, try it sometime.
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Gee, I feel like I've been pretty consistent. Have I not or are you just lashing out?
 
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Oh sheesh, he's taking questions.. There is a reason he doesnt do this often.

"I'm a big deficit believer"
 
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