Trump's false claims about disaster response are beyond the pale

[hog88]

Brutal.

But true. Most clickish forum on VN

 

[McDad]

But true. Most clickish forum on VN

cliquish???

 

[CobbVol]

From the article:

In the case of Helene’s impact in the southern Appalachian region, there are basically two types of emergency declarations: those that offer public help from FEMA and those that offer private help from FEMA.

Carter County, Cocke County, Greene County, Hamblen County, Johnson County and Unicoi County in Tennessee are currently offered Category B public assistance from FEMA.

This means people in those counties are offered debris removal and emergency protective measures. The cost of FEMA’s assistance is shared between the federal and local governments, 75% federal and 25% non-federal.

North Carolina, which saw even more devastation than East Tennessee, is also receiving individual assistance from FEMA. That assistance comes from FEMA’s Individuals and Households Program.

Individual assistance is a rare thing. It provides people with 100% federally-funded housing assistance and covers 75% of other needs.

In North Carolina, 25 counties are eligible for individual assistance. No Tennessee counties qualify.

FEMA offering disaster relief in Tennessee, North Carolina after severe flooding

How does the federal government declare a disaster, and what kind of relief do the declarations bring?

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[GroverCleveland]

So what is LG‘s opinion of people who call Trump „Hitler“ or a dictator?

You make a good point. So LG says 'Gov. Kemp calls Trump is a liar,' which apparently did not happen but people routinely call Trump Hitler. Shouldn't they be classified as liars?

 

[Sandman 423]

I did a white house tour in 2018. Was lucky enough to be able to take a photo of Trump. Do you see what I see? I was blown away.

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You got to see the president and Christian Bale? That's cool.

 

[hog88]

cliquish???

Whatever

 

[McDad]

You got to see the president and Christian Bale? That's cool.

I think that is Obi Wan Kenobi's force ghost.

 

[lawgator1]

You make a good point. So LG says 'Gov. Kemp calls Trump is a liar,' which apparently did not happen but people routinely call Trump Hitler. Shouldn't they be classified as liars?

I am okay with phrases like "danger to the country" or "threat to democracy" as an argument can be made that those characterizations are objectively true. I personally believe they are true as to Trump. You are free to throw the same labels at Harris.

We can then compare and contrast.

He's obviously not Hitler. I'd not call it a "lie" because no one thinks he is or thinks that is a factual statement, whereas claiming falsely that Biden has not returned a call from the Governor of Georgia clearly is designed to convey a fact which is demonstrably untrue.

 

[Sandman 423]

I think that is Obi Wan Kenobi's force ghost.

Did dude just stop by the White House before going to a Diddy white party?

 

[GVF]

...meanwhile Trump is getting everything under control....

THat's awesome. lol.

 

[GVF]

I know you werent being antogonistic.

Now you know what I have to deal with 24/7/365.....

My wife has 50% cajun blood in her system, 50% mountain blood. I feel your pain...and then some. Foxy is a cupcake in my world.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Disaster relief should be a state function, if anything....

Wrong....states do not have the ability to pay the bills nor do they have enough resources.
All States rely on Federal assistance and relief.
I guess so think we should do away with FEMA who coordinates supplies.
There are 3 levels of Federal Assistance offered for Relief of Natural Disasters.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Wrong....states do not have the ability to pay the bills nor do that have resources. All States rely on Federal assistance and relief.

Fed taxes should be cut to reflect states handling this and states should create their own revenue stream based on the risk profile and wishes of the electorate of each state. Someone in Utah shouldnt pay for a TN nader.....

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Wrong....states do not have the ability to pay the bills nor do that have resources. All States rely on Federal assistance and relief.

Yep. Ask Abbott in Texas about the ice storms

 

[PEPPERJAX]

And now Trump calls Walz "Tampon Tim." Trump is such a bully. An infant. Jerk.

I dunno man, Tampon Tim is pretty good.

 

[OrangeTsar]

My wife has 50% cajun blood in her system, 50% mountain blood. I feel your pain...and then some. Foxy is a cupcake in my world.

So is that……

Once I had a girl on Rocky Top
Half bear, other half cat

 

[Sudden Impact]

Yep. Ask Abbott in Texas about the ice storms

Ask DeSantis about the Hurricanes as well.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I dunno man, Tampon Tim is pretty good.

It IS one of his better ones for its alliteration if nothing else

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Yep. Ask Abbott in Texas about the ice storms

Why should someone in TN (we were colder in Memphis and had more frozen precip than TX in 2021) pay for TX completely neglecting their utility infrastructure for decades?

Cut federal taxes and let each state figure out how and how much revenue to raise for it....

We dont need FEMA and SEMA and LEMA. Take out the useless bureaucracy

 

[hog88]

I am okay with phrases like "danger to the country" or "threat to democracy" as an argument can be made that those characterizations are objectively true. I personally believe they are true as to Trump. You are free to throw the same labels at Harris.

We can then compare and contrast.

He's obviously not Hitler. I'd not call it a "lie" because no one thinks he is or thinks that is a factual statement, whereas claiming falsely that Biden has not returned a call from the Governor of Georgia clearly is designed to convey a fact which is demonstrably untrue.

For the life of me I can’t figure out how Trump is any bigger of a “threat to democracy” or a “danger to the country” than Harris.

 

[hog88]

Wrong....states do not have the ability to pay the bills nor do that have resources. All States rely on Federal assistance and relief.

Well no shot when we have the federal government sucking up so many tax dollars.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I think calling a politicial disagreement over policy “beyond the pale” is in itself “beyond the pale”.

This sort of thing happens in every single election (at least since Adams vs Jefferson in 1800)

If you find this to be “beyond the pale” maybe politics is not for you

 

[Sudden Impact]

Well no shot when we have the federal government sucking up so many tax dollars.

I added to my post as well go back and read. It's been part of the Budget and force for relief long before you were probably born. Without Federal Assistance, a State will go bankrupt.

 

[volfanhill]

For the life of me I can’t figure out how Trump is any bigger of a “threat to democracy” or a “danger to the country” than Harris.

Well you are dealing with people who have no knowledge of, defend the act of, or dont understand why its problematic and a clear threat to “our democracy” that a a US POTUS whacked a US citizen. All because it was “too hard” to capture him.

 

[hog88]

I added to my post as well go back and read. It's been part of the Budget and force for relief long before you were probably born. Without Federal Assistance, a State will go bankrupt.

Goodness you are a smart fella. How about thinking outside of the box for a second and not accept the status quo. Open your mind and look for a better way.