Turkey: Our NATO Ally

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tumscalcium said:
So why compare them to the problems Israel has to face?
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Problems Israel faces? What about the well documented problems that Palestinians face on a daily basis?

The media, ran by Israel, has made demons out of the suffering Palestinians. They have a voice that Americans can't/won't listen to...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Problems Israel faces? What about the well documented problems that Palestinians face on a daily basis?

The media, ran by Israel, has made demons out of the suffering Palestinians. They have a voice that Americans can't/won't listen to...
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You should try paying attention to reality.
 
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volprof said:
Your post was incoherent, and I rightfully called you out on it, in as nice a way as I could. Good to know you're not a Kremlin butt-kisser though. About the rest, I couldn't care.
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Pacer92 said:
There are over 350,000 Christians in Iran. When Iran starts forcefully taking land, building walls, miltarily policing Christian neighborhoods, waging undercover genocide...like Israel does Palestinians, I might agree...
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You do know that Iran executes more people, mostly for religious/political crimes, (and I would imagine Christians are sometimes included) than any other nation on Earth, save for perhaps China, right?

I've made it clear that I am not Israel's biggest fan, especially for the influence it possesses on both American domestic and foreign policy, but I would never compare Israel with the current manifestation of Iran.

Muslim nations, along with the UN, should finally cut their losses, accept reality, and pay for Palestinians to move to other Arab-Muslim nations, of which there is no lack. That region will never know peace until arbitrary Palestinian nationalism (neither a Palestinian nation nor a "Palestinian ethnic group" ever existed in history) goes the way of the Berber and camel. Palestinians are just Arabs; claiming they're a "national or ethnic group" is like saying that there is an Iraqi nation or a Syrian ethnicity, neither of which makes any sense. These are just merely labels for the Arab peoples living in these lands, while the borders were all defined, again, arbitrarily by Europeans years ago.

We need to move on and stop acting like Israel is committing a "genocide." That's Islamist, ultraliberal, and neo-Nazi rhetoric, all combined in one.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Problems Israel faces? What about the well documented problems that Palestinians face on a daily basis?

The media, ran by Israel, has made demons out of the suffering Palestinians. They have a voice that Americans can't/won't listen to...
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You shouldn't have done that...
 
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Pacer92 said:
There are over 350,000 Christians in Iran. When Iran starts forcefully taking land, building walls, miltarily policing Christian neighborhoods, waging undercover genocide...like Israel does Palestinians, I might agree...
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Naughty naughty...

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how have we backed their invasion?

from what I remember seeing there was one guy who commented on it and was basically saying I hope they get the job done. and he wasn't a decision maker.

and again for me personally I will take the Kurds over the Turks.
 
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LouderVol said:
how have we backed their invasion?

from what I remember seeing there was one guy who commented on it and was basically saying I hope they get the job done. and he wasn't a decision maker.

and again for me personally I will take the Kurds over the Turks.
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It's from a socialist web site. Pacer agrees with ultraliberals when they share his anti-American, dictator-loving sensibilities. Any other time though, they're leading to the decay of society.
 
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LouderVol said:
how have we backed their invasion?

from what I remember seeing there was one guy who commented on it and was basically saying I hope they get the job done. and he wasn't a decision maker.

and again for me personally I will take the Kurds over the Turks.
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How have we stopped it? Or demonized it?
 
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Pacer92 said:
How have we stopped it? Or demonized it?
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this is where your detachment from reality is really hurting. You see in the non-conspiracy land the US actually doesn't pull all the strings, and our spineless Potus has lost us all the international good will and pull we had. which was little enough to begin with.

as far as I know Syria hasn't brought this up with any international organization. Not sure if they can complain to NATO about what a member does if they aren't a member but some phone calls should be in order. Also the UN, you at least have to make the move to reach out to the UN to call for Turkey to stop. As it is Syria/Assad doesn't really care as long as they are killing mostly Kurds, the enemy of both nations. but the one local population that has been effective vs ISIS.
 
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LouderVol said:
this is where your detachment from reality is really hurting. You see in the non-conspiracy land the US actually doesn't pull all the strings, and our spineless Potus has lost us all the international good will and pull we had. which was little enough to begin with.

as far as I know Syria hasn't brought this up with any international organization. Not sure if they can complain to NATO about what a member does if they aren't a member but some phone calls should be in order. Also the UN, you at least have to make the move to reach out to the UN to call for Turkey to stop. As it is Syria/Assad doesn't really care as long as they are killing mostly Kurds, the enemy of both nations. but the one local population that has been effective vs ISIS.
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We are absolutely pulling the strings in Syria...always have. He's lost all credibility because there was none to start with. He has lied and fabricated multiple falsification in effort to invade or bomb Syria. Most Americans have quit buying into this garbage. But, they always come up with more excuses to get more involved..

Syria has complained, but who is going to acknowledge anything since all governing bodies are controlled by their enemies? Once again, anyone fighting in Syria besides the invited Russians or Iranians are doing so illegally...

Where are we condemning such action?
 
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Any individual who kills his own people before they have taken arms against him is also governing illegally.
 
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Pacer92 said:
We are absolutely pulling the strings in Syria...always have. He's lost all credibility because there was none to start with. He has lied and fabricated multiple falsification in effort to invade or bomb Syria. Most Americans have quit buying into this garbage. But, they always come up with more excuses to get more involved..

Syria has complained, but who is going to acknowledge anything since all governing bodies are controlled by their enemies? Once again, anyone fighting in Syria besides the invited Russians or Iranians are doing so illegally...

Where are we condemning such action?
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again I agree Syria is a mess and Turkey has made that worse. done, moving on.

Assad has been actively kicking out limiting any international body he can (because he is doing bad ish too and doesn't want them to talk). but if he wants some respectability you have to go at least go through the motions to sell that you care. he hasn't, which is one of the many reasons I believe Assad is behind this whole mess to begin with. both directly and indirectly.

a comparison, of obliviously much different scale. Butch complained about some of the calls vs Alabama last year, so he files a complaint with the SEC. Now we all know they aren't going to do anything to hamper Bama but it gives Butch a platform to stand on and say he tried and gives a leg to stand on when he gets righteously indignant, he did what he could. Assad needs to be Butch, he needs to take it up with the people who have power (UN). but he doesn't despite clear protocols for it and instead insists on just yelling at the media. It makes us UT fans (Syria/Russia) feel good but the rest of the world has a hard time buying it.

hopefully that is the last time ever I compare UT to Syria/Russia or any foreign nation ever. apologies
 
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