Turkey: Our NATO Ally

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LouderVol said:
so you want another nation (turkey) to tell us how to think?

thats bad. thats real real bad.
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That would be a great argument if I ever established a position on the matter. Hope you feel the same about all countries trying "to tell us how to think"(Russia).
 
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Mick said:
That would be a great argument if I ever established a position on the matter. Hope you feel the same about all countries trying "to tell us how to think"(Russia).
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If you can prove they have bought Trump and got him to change things, quid pro quo, then yes I feel the same.

if you are worried about FB adds, then you have less faith in humanity than I do, and generally fewer worries in life if that concerns you.

Our government has a whole department dedicated to this stuff.

Investing in Freedom: Democracy Support in the U.S. Budget | Freedom House
 
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LouderVol said:
Bruh, its a voluntary program that nations actively seek to join with no consequences of leaving or method of enforcing the its own rules (2% expenditure).
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Bruh, I know what NATO is and stands for...

In theory it is a defensive alliance aimed at protecting Europe from the Russian menace....

In reality it is an offensive alliance aimed at suffocating Russia and it's allies....

Persuasion = dictatorship...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Bruh, I know what NATO is and stands for...

In theory it is a defensive alliance aimed at protecting Europe from the Russian menace....

In reality it is an offensive alliance aimed at suffocating Russia and it's allies....

Persuasion = dictatorship...
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so every system of government, any business anywhere, any human relationship = dictatorship. seems legit.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Bruh, I know what NATO is and stands for...

In theory it is a defensive alliance aimed at protecting Europe from the Russian menace....

In reality it is an offensive alliance aimed at suffocating Russia and it's allies....

Persuasion = dictatorship...
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The guy you were responding to was saying Turkey is run by a dictator not NATO. Hope that clears it up.
 
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Mick said:
That would be a great argument if I ever established a position on the matter. Hope you feel the same about all countries trying "to tell us how to think"(Russia).
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Russia must be social media geniuses. If $100k in Facebook ads can sway an election, then we are in trouble.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Russia must be social media geniuses. If $100 in Facebook ads can sway an election, then we are in trouble.
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They got their moneys worth but we were already in trouble. Advertising hate like McD's trying to give everyone a Big Mac attack.
 
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It seems like Israel was the only one to want this. The rest of NATO expressed the same as Turkey and the only thing that this will accomplish is upsetting the ME. Amazing how Kushner had the foresight to arm the region and purchase property in the West Bank.
 
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Mick said:
It seems like Israel was the only one to want this. The rest of NATO expressed the same as Turkey and the only thing that this will accomplish is upsetting the ME. Amazing how Kushner had the foresight to arm the region and purchase property in the West Bank.
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Considering that this is a sovereign decision, what Israel wants is the only thing that matters.
 
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hog88 said:
Considering that this is a sovereign decision, what Israel wants is the only thing that matters.
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only six countries out of 193 UN member states fully supported Israel’s ties Jerusalem: Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, the United States and Israel itself.

Waste of tax payer money if you ask me. Puts the US on the front line of a holy war and what do we gain?
 
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Mick said:
only six countries out of 193 UN member states fully supported Israel’s ties Jerusalem: Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, the United States and Israel itself.

Waste of tax payer money if you ask me. Puts the US on the front line of a holy war and what do we gain?
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How would you feel about other countries dictating what we do within our own borders? If the Arab countries didn’t want Israel to move its capital they shouldn’t have attacked them, or at least won when they did.
 
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hog88 said:
How would you feel about other countries dictating what we do within our own borders? If the Arab countries didn’t want Israel to move its capital they shouldn’t have attacked them, or at least worn when they did.
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The only thing we are doing is moving our embassy there away from the embassies of our other allies in Tel Aviv. How is this helpful for us?
 
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hog88 said:
How would you feel about other countries dictating what we do within our own borders? If the Arab countries didn’t want Israel to move its capital they shouldn’t have attacked them, or at least won when they did.
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Have you heard of the TPP? The Paris Climate Accord?
 
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hog88 said:
Yeah, and we’re out of it.
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The point is, both were clearly designed to control the sovereignty of other nations.

And hell for that matter, the fact that countries are not allowed to sell oil outside of the dollar is what got Saddam and Ghaddafi killed. Since when does the US have the right to tell other countries how they can settle oil trade payments?
 
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Pacer92 said:
Bruh, I know what NATO is and stands for...

In theory it is a defensive alliance aimed at protecting Europe from the Russian menace....

In reality it is an offensive alliance aimed at suffocating Russia and it's allies....

Persuasion = dictatorship...
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Really? I think you give NATO way too much credit. I see NATO as a toothless, paper tiger.
 
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Mick said:
only six countries out of 193 UN member states fully supported Israel’s ties Jerusalem: Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, the United States and Israel itself.

Waste of tax payer money if you ask me. Puts the US on the front line of a holy war and what do we gain?
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Outside of the Palis, nobody really cares. They pay lip service to appease their Muslim/Progressive base but, outside of that, they'll do nothing. Like I said, they don't give a damn.
 
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Mick said:
The only thing we are doing is moving our embassy there away from the embassies of our other allies in Tel Aviv. How is this helpful for us?
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Why did Obama stab Israel in the back just before he left office with that UN resolution that declared that east Jerusalem is "occupied" territory? What was broken? Why did Obama have to stir the pot and incite more violence and hatred against our Israeli friends?
 
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