Tyler Smith - Gone (confirmed)

[AlaskaVol]

He got a trial first and some folks think he was innocent. I do not. The system may fail but that does not mean the jackals can go to work before all the facts are clear.
Why would some of be so eager and unable to wait on the process? Just hate big black players?

 

[Voldaddy]

Voldaddy,

What part of fairness and justice do you not understand. Inform yourself about American principles of Law.

They have not been pled, tried or ajudicated. They have a right to be innocent until they are found guilty of something by a jury of their peers. This crap you quote is charged and uncharged stuff. It is not crimes that they are guilty of until found so.

I hope someday you have the opportunity to be assailed by people on this blog. Maybe you will be innocent and they will find you "guilty" and hang you in writing every day all day long. Fools like you imperil our American freedoms.

Paranoia. They are out to get us. Put on your tinfoil hat.

Your original post was talking about it not being wrong to own a firearm, that we are a bunch of wuss Easterners, etc... You then follow that gem up with "If they are thrown off the team and the gun possession turns out not to be illegal or prosecuted, I hope they sue the school and Pearl for 50 million dollars."

Now, let's go over this again. Owning a gun with the serial numbers filed off, tampered with, or removed, is a crime. Period. If the feds step in, it will get ugly.

Why would you own a gun with altered numbers?

I'm all for fairness and justice. Inform yourself about gun ownership laws.

Your last paragraph was the cherry on the sundae. You are a white bigot, but we are scared for a black man to own a gun, and have a lynch mob mentality...

Incredible that you are quick to judge, yet condemn others for doing the same.

 

[Voldaddy]

He got a trial first and some folks think he was innocent. I do not. The system may fail but that does not mean the jackals can go to work before all the facts are clear.
Why would some of be so eager and unable to wait on the process? Just hate big black players?

Another gem.

Yes, we hate big black players, and have a lynch mob mentality.

I think you may have consumed some tainted elk.

 

[shamwowpearl]

Paranoia. They are out to get us. Put on your tinfoil hat.

Your original post was talking about it not being wrong to own a firearm, that we are a bunch of wuss Easterners, etc... You then follow that gem up with "If they are thrown off the team and the gun possession turns out not to be illegal or prosecuted, I hope they sue the school and Pearl for 50 million dollars."

Now, let's go over this again. Owning a gun with the serial numbers filed off, tampered with, or removed, is a crime. Period. If the feds step in, it will get ugly.

Why would you own a gun with altered numbers?

I'm all for fairness and justice. Inform yourself about gun ownership laws.

Your last paragraph was the cherry on the sundae. You are a white bigot, but we are scared for a black man to own a gun, and have a lynch mob mentality...

Incredible that you are quick to judge, yet condemn others for doing the same.

this could get really ugly, wonder who will be thrown under the bus?

 

[hillsborovol]

Do you know the law in TN about an Open Container?
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I bet that a good percentage of football fans on Saturday afternoon DO NOT WANT THE OPEN CONTAINER LAW ENFORCED!!!!!

 

[AlaskaVol]

Voldaddy,

Interesting avatar.

I meant to say "unprosecuted". That was a typo. Otherwise you still sound like "to hell with truth or justice. Hang them damn gun tottin' ___s. We will look for the truth and facts later."

What comes round, goes round and maybe it will come to you someday. I judge your personality and attitude through your posts, but I do not invoke others to do damage to you. There lies the difference between us, sophomore.

 

[Gannon Goodson]

C'mon Alaska. Don't be upset that Voldaddy schooled your arse.

It's okay, though. I've seen him make a fool of many -- and you're no exception.

 

[AlaskaVol]

Yeah, he is great! A real Brainiac. You too, I guess?

 

[Vercingetorix]

Voldaddy,

What part of fairness and justice do you not understand. Inform yourself about American principles of Law.

They have not been pled, tried or ajudicated. They have a right to be innocent until they are found guilty of something by a jury of their peers. This crap you quote is charged and uncharged stuff. It is not crimes that they are guilty of until found so.

I hope someday you have the opportunity to be assailed by people on this blog. Maybe you will be innocent and they will find you "guilty" and hang you in writing every day all day long. Fools like you imperil our American freedoms.

Every one of your posts is like a cartoon. The only surprise is that you didn't fit in some sarcastic comment about how this was all Fulmer's fault too. Maybe you're going to be the guy who tells us that Thomas Jefferson filed the serial numbers off his muskets because he was afraid of the Continental Congress confiscating them.

These four guys have an absolute right to the presumption of innocence by the law, and an opportunity to contest these charges in a court of law. They do not, however, have an absolute right to represent the University of Tennessee on the basketball court while they stand accused of these salacious, nationally reported charges. The University's interest in protecting its reputation and public image is a completely separate issue from the legal case against these four men.

 

[Voldaddy]

Voldaddy,

Interesting avatar.

I meant to say "unprosecuted". That was a typo. Otherwise you still sound like "to hell with truth or justice. Hang them damn gun tottin' ___s. We will look for the truth and facts later."

What comes round, goes round and maybe it will come to you someday. I judge your personality and attitude through your posts, but I do not invoke others to do damage to you. There lies the difference between us, sophomore.

Glad you like the avatar. It's from the greatest skit on the greatest show in tv history.

Please show me once where I said any of the drivel you posted above. My post was in response to your babbling. Let's try this again, for the third time. Why would he have a gun with an altered serial number? That's the problem.

Did you bother to read the part where I said if he had a permit to carry a gun without altered serial numbers that there would not be a problem?

Sophomore? Wow.

 

[Voldaddy]

C'mon Alaska. Don't be upset that Voldaddy schooled your arse.

It's okay, though. I've seen him make a fool of many -- and you're no exception.

Easy Gannon. He played the sophomore card on me. He just might whip out the junior high card next.

 

[Voldaddy]

Every one of your posts is like a cartoon. The only surprise is that you didn't fit in some sarcastic comment about how this was all Fulmer's fault too. Maybe you're going to be the guy who tells us that Thomas Jefferson filed the serial numbers off his muskets because he was afraid of the Continental Congress confiscating them.

These four guys have an absolute right to the presumption of innocence by the law, and an opportunity to contest these charges in a court of law. They do not, however, have an absolute right to represent the University of Tennessee on the basketball court while they stand accused of these salacious, nationally reported charges. The University's interest in protecting its reputation and public image is a completely separate issue from the legal case against these four men.

You're just threatened by large black men possessing firearms.

 

[Vercingetorix]

You're just threatened by large black men possessing firearms.

Actually I'm threatened by ANYBODY with a firearm, because I'm a craven bootlicking Easterner wuss who thinks guns are inherently bad. In spite of the fact that there's one in my closet 15 feet away from me right now.

 

[AlaskaVol]

Glad you like the avatar. It's from the greatest skit on the greatest show in tv history.

Please show me once where I said any of the drivel you posted above. My post was in response to your babbling. Let's try this again, for the third time. Why would he have a gun with an altered serial number? That's the problem.

Did you bother to read the part where I said if he had a permit to carry a gun without altered serial numbers that there would not be a problem?

Sophomore? Wow.

So now you have backed up and the real problem is just the "charge" of altered serial numbers. Who did the altering? Does court agree they were altered? Who's gun was it? You do not know. Take the flour sack off your head.

What horrible crime are they guilty of to be thrown off the team without a hearing? None. Suspension til all the facts and findings are certain is fine but not it is not fine to just discard these guys without all the facts. You seem in a rush to destroy others. You and a few of your buds do not, fortunately, represent society. There is a process to be followed. You would want that process for yourself and you must give it to others,... junior.

Can we blame this on Fullmer too? Great that's OK with you guys, isn't it?

 

[AlaskaVol]

Actually I'm threatened by ANYBODY with a firearm, because I'm a craven bootlicking Easterner wuss who thinks guns are inherently bad. In spite of the fact that there's one in my closet 15 feet away from me right now.

I would think if you really owned a gun you would not be so afraid for others to own guns. I guess you have a BB gun to go with your PP?:birgits_giggle:

 

[Vercingetorix]

I would think if you really owned a gun you would not be so afraid for others to own guns. I guess you have a BB gun to go with your PP?:birgits_giggle:

My problem is the altered serial number. There's a reason why it's a federal crime to alter the serial number, and you end up with one of those guns in your possession by mistake.

But there's really no point in arguing this with you, because you certainly seem to be one of these gun fetishists who refuses to acknowledge that the government has any legitimate right to regulate any aspect of the gun trade. The filed-off serial number doesn't bother you because anything that can be used to help fight the gun crime that ravages our cities can also be used against Real Americans when the government finally decides to come take the guns away. You don't keep a gun in your house to defend your family, as I do; you keep a whole collection of them, because it gives you a testosterone rush when you fire them and you think it's fun to play soldier. Any of that sound familiar?

I'll argue this stuff all night with anybody who's honest about it, but there's really no point in discussing it with somebody who's got an ideology rather than opinions, and whose worldview is basically something out of a comic book.

 

[Spens]

I'll just move to the Politics Forum to finish reading this thread...

 

[AlaskaVol]

My problem is the altered serial number. There's a reason why it's a federal crime to alter the serial number, and you end up with one of those guns in your possession by mistake.

But there's really no point in arguing this with you, because you certainly seem to be one of these gun fetishists who refuses to acknowledge that the government has any legitimate right to regulate any aspect of the gun trade. The filed-off serial number doesn't bother you because anything that can be used to help fight the gun crime that ravages our cities can also be used against Real Americans when the government finally decides to come take the guns away. You don't keep a gun in your house to defend your family, as I do; you keep a whole collection of them, because it gives you a testosterone rush when you fire them and you think it's fun to play soldier. Any of that sound familiar?

I'll argue this stuff all night with anybody who's honest about it, but there's really no point in discussing it with somebody who's got an ideology rather than opinions, and whose worldview is basically something out of a comic book.

You don't know how to argue. You cannot even recognize facts. Arguing to you seems to mean false conclusions and name calling. Yes this is a waste of time.

 

[LawVol13]

So now you have backed up and the real problem is just the "charge" of altered serial numbers. Who did the altering? Does court agree they were altered? Who's gun was it? You do not know. Take the flour sack off your head.

What horrible crime are they guilty of to be thrown off the team without a hearing? None. Suspension til all the facts and findings are certain is fine but not it is not fine to just discard these guys without all the facts. You seem in a rush to destroy others. You and a few of your buds do not, fortunately, represent society. There is a process to be followed. You would want that process for yourself and you must give it to others,... junior.

Can we blame this on Fullmer too? Great that's OK with you guys, isn't it?

It doesn't matter who did the altering. Yes, the court will consider them altered when the serial number is filed off. It is a federal offense to possess a gun with an altered serial number. This seems pretty obvious to people with sense. But then I read your little tribute to Failmer, and I realized you have none.

 

[AlaskaVol]

It doesn't matter who did the altering. Yes, the court will consider them altered when the serial number is filed off. It is a federal offense to possess a gun with an altered serial number. This seems pretty obvious to people with sense. But then I read your little tribute to Failmer, and I realized you have none.

It is so obvious they are guilty, we can just assume their guilt without any due process and put them in jail now for both misdemeanor and felony altering. You gotta jail at your house? That would make a lot of folks here happy apparently. You let your unjustified hate for Phil Fulmer cloud your judgement, but I understand your confusion. Oh, and your an idiot too.

 

[LawVol13]

It is so obvious they are guilty, we can just assume their guilt without any due process and put them in jail now for both misdemeanor and felony altering. You gotta jail at your house? That would make a lot of folks here happy apparently. You let your unjustified hate for Phil Fulmer cloud your judgement, but I understand your confusion. Oh, and your an idiot too.

Way to miss the point. The point was it does not matter if they can prove that T. Smith altered the gun. It is a federal offense to possess a gun with an altered serial number.

Fulmer is responsible for the current state of our roster (two walkons starting on the o-line). How many jobs did he get offered this year? Oh yea. None.

 

[Oracle69]

Everyone in the car is just as guilty. They knew the guns were in the car, they knew marijuana was in the car, and they knew alcohol was in the car. At some point, this has to end. I hate it just as much as everyone else does, but letting it go by the wayside is much worse.

Agreed . ....... CBP and CLK need to set the tone for the entire country to see. I'm tired of fellow co-workers here in Warner Robins, GA. giving me crap about these kids who think they're "thugs". Put them where the real thugs are....on the streets.

:furious3:

 

[golf437]

can we kick pearl off the team too. then maybe we can get a coach to put us in contention for a NC instead of some big talking cheerleader who can't coach offense, or defense, or get his guys to train, or play the "pressure D bruce pearl style"... and since he doesn't want to coach effort... and can't recruit guys who are self-motivated beyond smokin weed... we might as well fire the coach while were at it.

:bad: No they are not going to grt rid of a excellent coach.

 

[MikeHamiltonFan]

My problem is the altered serial number. There's a reason why it's a federal crime to alter the serial number, and you end up with one of those guns in your possession by mistake.

But there's really no point in arguing this with you, because you certainly seem to be one of these gun fetishists who refuses to acknowledge that the government has any legitimate right to regulate any aspect of the gun trade. The filed-off serial number doesn't bother you because anything that can be used to help fight the gun crime that ravages our cities can also be used against Real Americans when the government finally decides to come take the guns away. You don't keep a gun in your house to defend your family, as I do; you keep a whole collection of them, because it gives you a testosterone rush when you fire them and you think it's fun to play soldier. Any of that sound familiar?

I'll argue this stuff all night with anybody who's honest about it, but there's really no point in discussing it with somebody who's got an ideology rather than opinions, and whose worldview is basically something out of a comic book.

Your tune has changed from your initial agreement that UT athletes should not possess firearms.

It is strange that you continue cutting and pasting dreck from the Huffington Post that is supposed to make gun owners feel bad. It is a delight to shoot a firearm. It is a pleasure to know that I can stop a vehicle from making it up my driveway if the need arises. It is nice to know that as I sleep if someone breaks the lock on my door or window I will bring death to them before they can ascend the stairs to where my daughter lies sleeping, and that my wife is well trained to do the same if I am not there.

Are we supposed to feel bad that we enjoy shooting guns? Go ahead and get out your blood pressure medication because I also enjoy shooting skeet and hunting, and shooting targets that look like Bin Laden...

 

[Tnrdgerunr]

According to posters over on TOS, they are saying that both guns were registered and or claimed by Tyler and we should hear an announcement today that he is off the team.

I just have one question. How do you register a gun that has an altered serial number? :dunno: