U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

Does the .gov have Alien tech?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 32.5%

  • No

    Votes: 31 24.6%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 13.5%

  • It's Trumps Fault

    Votes: 17 13.5%

  • Yes, but also....Pie

    Votes: 9 7.1%

  • No, but also... Pie

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • Total voters
    126
#227
#227
Zues1 said:
Looks just like a UFO. 😉
No video of these creatures. Did they just stroll down the street and disappear into the night?
Click to expand...
Just saying if I see a 10 ft tall "creature" in my back yard, the last thing on my mind would be pulling out my phone and recording it. But then again I'm not really a "pull out phone and record" kind of person.

As for the object falling from the sky, not sure what else it could be?
 
#229
#229
Oh for petes sake. Nellis is right there along with Groom Lake, people get a report that aliens exist and all the sudden the green men are running in back yards.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grand Vol
#232
#232
hog88 said:
And none of the people thought to pull out a phone a take a pic of the creatures? Come on.
Click to expand...
Could be they just got a glimpse as it was running by. If aliens are out there, they aren't just going to be strolling along where anyone can photo them.
 
#233
#233
SamRebel35 said:
This alien sh*t is all a psy op. There's a better chance of a tornado going through a junk yard and randomly assembling a trailer park than aliens visiting Earth.
Click to expand...
So you think there's no other intelligent life anywhere to be found? It's all right here on earth?
 
#234
#234
K-town Vol Fan said:
Could be they just got a glimpse as it was running by. If aliens are out there, they aren't just going to be strolling along where anyone can photo them.
Click to expand...

They gave a pretty good description of them if they only saw them running by, plus they said they were standing by whatever fell out of the sky.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Zues1
#236
#236
hog88 said:
They gave a pretty good description of them if they only saw them running by, plus they said they were standing by whatever fell out of the sky.
Click to expand...
Lol.
Apparently none of the " witnesses " are pull out their phone kind of guys. 😂
 
#238
#238
K-town Vol Fan said:
So you think there's no other intelligent life anywhere to be found? It's all right here on earth?
Click to expand...

I didn't say that. But think of all the things that must be true in order for aliens to be visiting us.

1) intelligent life beyond earth must exist concurrently with earthlings on a 14 billion year time line.

2) this otherworldly intelligent life form must be more advanced than our intelligence

3) their intelligence must be orders of magnitude superior to ours in order to come up with a form of transportation that is thousands of times faster than the speed of light, or else intergalactic travel would be impossible unless these beings also have lifespans in excess of a couple million years

4) they need to know in advance that earth is worth visiting and must know exactly how to get here

These things all MUST be true at the same time. It's impossibly long odds.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MemphisVol77, Carl Pickens and PKT_VOL
#241
#241
volsforever27 said:
While I understand your point, this is what critics have been stating for decades. The technology that is being witnessed by military and civilians are hundreds if not thousands of years ahead. If it is human, then we (or someone) have a secret space program that requires some kind of energy besides rockets, and as I stated before that would solve a whole host of problems we have currently.

Since the 70s, there's been no huge uptick in technology... that they've admitted to. They have many reasons to keep it secret.
Click to expand...

This can be said of all sorts of scientific/engineering government endeavors. The most famous example being the space program and all the commercial technology which diverged from it.

However, every high tech government sector has the pros and cons of releasing their advanced tech; national security vs public benefit. The most public example of this in the US being the NSA's struggle to build a working repository of cyber vulnerabilities for offensive capabilities versus alerting American citizens/businesses of those vulnerabilities.

If the rest of the world can't match our white technology, there is little incentive to release black technology until an existential threat arises.

volsforever27 said:
The technology to traverse the universe would be easy for the kind if tech that can travel thousands of feet in a second. The maneuvers these craft can make would kill any pilot. And if you believe some of the leaks out there, then they can bend time and may be inter-dimensonal. I have no idea, I'm not a scientist. I'd imagine they use gravity somehow.
Click to expand...

There won't be many airplanes in our military fleet which have pilots in the next decade or so. Very new design is at least drone capable (see B-21). Most platforms will have a swarm of drones under their command. DARPA is leading programs to retrofit older platforms like the F-18 to be drones. Thus, black technology being unsurvivable to pilots is a non issue.

volsforever27 said:
As far as clear pictures, there's been hundreds of pictures taken since the 1940s. Some of them clear, some not. The fact that it's hard to focus on may have something to do with their propulsion. Again, just spitballing.

There have been high ranking military officials and former Apollo astronauts who have come out and said these things aren't from here. Gordon Cooper claimed he saw a film of one landing on a dry lake bed. These objects have also seemingly interacted with our nuclear installations, which is a huge security issue.

This isn't just Bubba from Alabama claiming to see aliens. There are legit testimonials from some credible witnesses.

Food for thought as well.
Click to expand...

Given the recent studies about how unreliable human witnesses are in simple criminal cases where the victim and witness have prolonged exposure to the criminal, eye witnesses testimony isn't as reliable as we grew up to think it was.
 
#242
#242
SamRebel35 said:
I didn't say that. But think of all the things that must be true in order for aliens to be visiting us.

1) intelligent life beyond earth must exist concurrently with earthlings on a 14 billion year time line.

2) this otherworldly intelligent life form must be more advanced than our intelligence

3) their intelligence must be orders of magnitude superior to ours in order to come up with a form of transportation that is thousands of times faster than the speed of light, or else intergalactic travel would be impossible unless these beings also have lifespans in excess of a couple million years

4) they need to know in advance that earth is worth visiting and must know exactly how to get here

These things all MUST be true at the same time. It's impossibly long odds.
Click to expand...

Good post.

I would add that intergalactic travel is probably not velocity based (like the tic-tac). It would probably be via entanglement or different dimensions
 
  • Like
Reactions: SamRebel35
#243
#243
K-town Vol Fan said:
So you think there's no other intelligent life anywhere to be found? It's all right here on earth?
Click to expand...

I can say with great confidence that while there is a slim possibility of intelligent life elsewhere, a brief review of your average tick tock video and edicts coming from our political leaders is unshakeable PROOF that any intelligent life that may have existed on earth is long gone. ;)
 
#244
#244
PKT_VOL said:
This can be said of all sorts of scientific/engineering government endeavors. The most famous example being the space program and all the commercial technology which diverged from it.

However, every high tech government sector has the pros and cons of releasing their advanced tech; national security vs public benefit. The most public example of this in the US being the NSA's struggle to build a working repository of cyber vulnerabilities for offensive capabilities versus alerting American citizens/businesses of those vulnerabilities.

If the rest of the world can't match our white technology, there is little incentive to release black technology until an existential threat arises.



There won't be many airplanes in our military fleet which have pilots in the next decade or so. Very new design is at least drone capable (see B-21). Most platforms will have a swarm of drones under their command. DARPA is leading programs to retrofit older platforms like the F-18 to be drones. Thus, black technology being unsurvivable to pilots is a non issue.



Given the recent studies about how unreliable human witnesses are in simple criminal cases where the victim and witness have prolonged exposure to the criminal, eye witnesses testimony isn't as reliable as we grew up to think it was.
Click to expand...

They very well be drones, but it doesn't change anything I've stated. Their maneuvers are simply way beyond anything close to what we have. Not by 20 years, but much much more. They seem to blink in and out of existence. Again, we may have the technology, but wow we need in on some of it. And again, the question how we got it is legitimate .

Sure, eyewitness testimony isn't always reliable, but we're not talking about Farmer Jones. Trained military etc makes that seem a whole lot less possible.

You're also ignoring or downplaying the military officials and/or astronauts who have went on record. Look at Major Jesse Marcel and the Roswell crash.


I don't claim to have the answers. I just don't think it can be brushed off that easily.
 
#245
#245
Also remember that these aliens would not only need vehicles/drones that travel FTL to get here, they would also need some type of detection system, akin to radar, that also worked FTL. Because if the best they have is optical observation like us they are seeing the earth several thousand, if not longer, years in the past.

Depending on how far back they see, humans may not have been widespread enough to really matter. That's assuming they could see through the atmosphere and to a scale to see human habitations at all.

We have only been effecting our planets atmosphere for a relatively short time, which means the aliens would have to be really close to see it at "normal" light speeds. And even our space debris may not mean a lot to the aliens unless they are looking for those signs specifically.

These UFOs being drones, and maybe more likely to crash, make sense. As that could be the best way to gain actual information about our planet. Again getting down to a scale where the aliens could actually observe our capabilities and gather any real info would require suborbital UFOs. Which again complicates the mission and makes a crash more likely.
 
#246
#246
LouderVol said:
Also remember that these aliens would not only need vehicles/drones that travel FTL to get here, they would also need some type of detection system, akin to radar, that also worked FTL. Because if the best they have is optical observation like us they are seeing the earth several thousand, if not longer, years in the past.

Depending on how far back they see, humans may not have been widespread enough to really matter. That's assuming they could see through the atmosphere and to a scale to see human habitations at all.

We have only been effecting our planets atmosphere for a relatively short time, which means the aliens would have to be really close to see it at "normal" light speeds. And even our space debris may not mean a lot to the aliens unless they are looking for those signs specifically.

These UFOs being drones, and maybe more likely to crash, make sense. As that could be the best way to gain actual information about our planet. Again getting down to a scale where the aliens could actually observe our capabilities and gather any real info would require suborbital UFOs. Which again complicates the mission and makes a crash more likely.
Click to expand...
The drone theory is not consistent with the story at the beginning of this thread. The guy clearly mentioned "pilots" in these downed ships
 
#250
#250
LouderVol said:
Also remember that these aliens would not only need vehicles/drones that travel FTL to get here, they would also need some type of detection system, akin to radar, that also worked FTL. Because if the best they have is optical observation like us they are seeing the earth several thousand, if not longer, years in the past.

Depending on how far back they see, humans may not have been widespread enough to really matter. That's assuming they could see through the atmosphere and to a scale to see human habitations at all.

We have only been effecting our planets atmosphere for a relatively short time, which means the aliens would have to be really close to see it at "normal" light speeds. And even our space debris may not mean a lot to the aliens unless they are looking for those signs specifically.

These UFOs being drones, and maybe more likely to crash, make sense. As that could be the best way to gain actual information about our planet. Again getting down to a scale where the aliens could actually observe our capabilities and gather any real info would require suborbital UFOs. Which again complicates the mission and makes a crash more likely.
Click to expand...


...or they can manipulate time and space. Maybe even travel between dimensions. There's a theory that they are actually traveling through time.

If they can create a wormhole or manipulate time and space then the speed of light problem doesn't matter. It's instantaneous.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top