Uniform/Helmet/Shoe design thread (merged)

#826
#826
CWGvol said:
Yes the EXTREME minority among those who are in favor of alt uniforms, and in general as well. Did you see the crowd reaction? They knew the old blue hairs would complain. Those few calls meant nothing compared to that crowd reaction, and that was just a simple jersey color change. Imagine one these good ones.
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I saw the crowd "reaction" and it wasn't really different from any other time we ran through the T.

It wasn't a "few" calls. Hundreds of calls. Hundreds more emails. Why do you think we haven't worn an alternate since?

"Blue hairs," as you call them, pay the bills for the athletic department. If you want the AD to stop paying attention to them, then I hope you're willing to open up your wallet to make up for their monetary loss. Because without their money, we're Mississippi State.
 
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#827
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DeerPark12 said:
I saw the crowd "reaction" and it wasn't really different from any other time we ran through the T.

It wasn't a "few" calls. Hundreds of calls. Hundreds more emails. Why do you think we haven't worn an alternate since?

"Blue hairs," as you call them, pay the bills for the athletic department. If you want the AD to stop paying attention to them, then I hope you're willing to open up your wallet to make up for their monetary loss. Because without their money, we're Mississippi State.
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What wallet?
 
#828
#828
rockytop9808 said:
What wallet?
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Well played.

I'm not against an alt, by the way. I'm just saying they have to proceed carefully after a negative reaction from a lot of fans, many of them, um, important, fans the last time we did so.

That's why you'll see this year's (and presumably future years') alts be billed as "throwbacks" and based on earlier uniforms.
 
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#830
#830
I think the term you are looking for when concerning black unis (particularly the BFBS unis that Miss. State, UK, etc trot out) is "played out".

There's a reason Adidas is moving away from black when dealing with UT.



bigeasy said:
Maybe we should use the TN flag like Maryland does on our jerseys?


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Don't knock it. I still think if they wanted to refurb the basketball court at TBA, center court could be the circle on the flag (in orange and white) with a shadow outline of the state behind it. Also an effective way to stick it to Vandy and Memphis.

RT9808, you think you could work up a concept for that?
 
#832
#832
DeerPark12 said:
I saw the crowd "reaction" and it wasn't really different from any other time we ran through the T.

It wasn't a "few" calls. Hundreds of calls. Hundreds more emails. Why do you think we haven't worn an alternate since?

"Blue hairs," as you call them, pay the bills for the athletic department. If you want the AD to stop paying attention to them, then I hope you're willing to open up your wallet to make up for their monetary loss. Because without their money, we're Mississippi State.
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Naa, the crowd loved it as did almost everyone I know. You have an agenda, you hate the black. It's not my favorite either, but you can't tell me the tan looks good or would be a favorite.
 
#833
#833
Present an actual concept involving black that isn't a port of some random Nike template and we might have something interesting.

Otherwise its more of the same of the 10k posts in the V 1.0 of this thread. Lame concepts that float around on twitter/FB and randomly pop up every few months.

If nothing else, his concepts are well done and original which is a rarity in this discussion.
 
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#835
#835
Versus this ugly ass 1914 crap that no one under 100 would want. Lol
 

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#836
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Atleast we all agree the Gray jersey's look awesome, I'm on the fence with the brown helmet and tan pants though....
 
#837
#837
WallyBalls said:
Present an actual concept involving black that isn't a port of some random Nike template and we might have something interesting.

Otherwise its more of the same of the 10k posts in the V 1.0 of this thread. Lame concepts that float around on twitter/FB and randomly pop up every few months.

If nothing else, his concepts are well done and original which is a rarity in this discussion.
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The concepts from Charles Sollars are original and well done, look back a few pages.
 
#838
#838
I will be the first to admit that in 2009 I really liked the black jerseys. So much so, that I actually bought a jersey replica T-Shirt with the number 14 on it.

Now I cringe when I pull it out. Not because of some connection with Kiff, but because it is just ugly. Personally I think I was just in the whole "change for the sake of change is good" category then. I felt like we had suffered through a decade or more of decline and we felt stale. If I only knew what the next four years would hold...

The problem with chasing fashion and trends is that too often when a change is made you end up being behind the curve. Assuming you believe that kids are flocking to schools because of their uniform (a debatable assumption when looking at recruiting averages across the teams with "trendy" uniforms and compared to teams like UT with pretty traditional garb) you have to also assume that black is now "out". We did it 4 years ago and were on the tail end of that fad.

You also have to assume that some colors look better with black. White and red are two colors that tend to really pop with black. Orange and black looks like Halloween, and blue and black looks like a bruise.

So, if we want to have the effect on modern players to energize them (that is what these alt uniforms supposedly do, right?) we have to have something that is enviable and fresh. Wearing black now would feel like wearing bell-bottoms in the late 1980's; you might have on what was incredibly trendy a few years ago, but now you just look silly and out of touch.

It is a precarious balancing point. Do what Maryland did and the majority will find it repulsive and desperate, or do what USC, Bama and UT do and stick to your brand. I promise, kids don't mind that Bama looks almost the same as they did in 1960. When we start winning, our traditional and UNIQUE look will be cool again too.

As far as this desperate need to put checkerboards in and on everything, personally I find it repulsive. I love it in the end zones because it is traditional and unique, but it ends up looking like a cheap picnic tablecloth when thrown on a jersey or a helmet.
 
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#840
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bigeasy said:
So people don't like black uniforms but they like those hideous tan ones? interesting I appreciate the time spent doing them, but that tan throwback would be the laughing stock of the nation if we came out in those.
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So people argue for black because they say it's historical but don't want tan because it's "hideous", even though it's just as historical?
 
#842
#842
I don't care what's historical or more traditional. I just know that if we put those tan unis on, I would throw up a little. I like the flat black helmet that was floating around at one point. The alts don't have to be black to look good. Just do something cool and fresh with the o/w. but please anything but that tan
 
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#843
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rockytop9808 said:
I liked this thought so I did one up like the Redskins used when they did their 80th anniversary unis. You can't really see it on this size image but there's a subtle leathery pattern on the helmets.

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Remove the name off the back and I'd be okay with these. If we're going to do a throwback, I'd like it to be as close as possible to a 1:1 recreation of an old uni as you can do in today's game (obviously leather helmets and jerseys with no numbers aren't a possibility). This "historically inspired" BS is just a bone to throw to traditionalists while also giving the people who for some reason think UT is too good for orange and white what they want at the same time. No need to try and have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to do a throwback, do it right.
 
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#845
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CWGvol said:
The concepts from Charles Sollars are original and well done, look back a few pages.
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A few were decent, but almost none fit anything that could possibly be used. Orange and black helmets would be highly unlikely and every logo that wasn't the Power T is no longer in use.


His checkerboard stripe on a few of his designs was decent, but that was about it. Even then, the checkerboard is not something that would translate to a uni like people seem to think it would. Less is more when it comes to that.

It seems to me a lot of his designs would not translate to real life very well.
 
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#847
#847
CWGvol said:
Yes the EXTREME minority among those who are in favor of alt uniforms, and in general as well. Did you see the crowd reaction? They knew the old blue hairs would complain. Those few calls meant nothing compared to that crowd reaction, and that was just a simple jersey color change. Imagine one these good ones.
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Crowd reaction is not proof; you apparently haven't been to Neyland Stadium much.
 
#849
#849
CWGvol said:
Naa, the crowd loved it as did almost everyone I know. You have an agenda, you hate the black. It's not my favorite either, but you can't tell me the tan looks good or would be a favorite.
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The crowd loved that we were whipping SC.

You keep throwing out things as facts that you have absolutely no proof of. "Everyone you knew"? WOW...look out guys, EVERYONE he knew liked them, so obviously it must mean the vast majority of UT fans loved them.

And LOL at you saying someone else has an agenda.
 
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