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WallyBalls said:
Eh, I don't know if its that cut and dry. It rarely is.

Should he hit a jackpot? Not at all. But I don't think United should be completely blameless here.
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He's gonna get paid but it's just gonna be so this goes away.

From what I can tell they were within their rights to ask him to leave. Once he refused they took the next step which is to physically remove him which they were also within their rights to do so.

This guy is gonna get paid because it's the world we live in but technically he is owed nothing and I'm sure if UA decided to lawyer up and fight it he would be lucky to break even.
 
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Maybe so, but I'd at least ask why United, A) allowed everyone to board the plane and didn't handle this at the gate like almost every other airline in the world, B)why they did not exhaust all of their options before deciding to have him removed.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Maybe so, but I'd at least ask why United, A) allowed everyone to board the plane and didn't handle this at the gate like almost every other airline in the world, B)why they did not exhaust all of their options before deciding to have him removed.
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A) that's a mistake but not like it prevents them from removing passengers. It's not a "no turning back" point.

B) I would think this happens more than once in a blue moon and they follow protocol. The only things out of the norm here is the doctor who was defiant and had to be removed.
 
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bigdaddy said:
Lol, I hate flying bc you basically give up all your personal freedoms but I understand It.
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I neither like it not understand it. The patriot act has given the flight crews the freedom to treat their paying customers like total garbage, and the only recourse the customers have is to pull out their phones and do exactly what is happening now.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
This guy is gonna get paid because it's the world we live in but technically he is owed nothing and I'm sure if UA decided to lawyer up and fight it he would be lucky to break even.
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The PR hit they would take from fighting this would do far more damage in the long run than settling.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Has anyone read anything about what happened in the minutes/hour leading up to the video?

I haven't looked, but like with any video, I'm guessing there's more that went on leading up to the video. I doubt they go from asking for volunteers straight to law enforcement forcibly removing someone from the plane.
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There's a video. He was on the phone with United looking for recourse. He seemed to be using a reasonable but agitated tone. Not cussing and flailing. Just refusing and pleading his case to be understood. That's how I saw it anyway
 
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BigZiti09 said:
GREAT read.
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Read it last night, and while I agree that she had some points I still think they had several options short of what they resorted to. The bottom line is that the airlines create the problems by overbooking these flights. Then they want to solve the problem by removing a paying customer whose only mistake was believing that an agreement made in good faith would be honored.

My main outrage is over the fact that this is legal in the first place. I don't care if the doctor gets paid or not. I just hope all of the outrage sparks some change in the laws that allow this sort of thing to happen.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I neither like it not understand it. The patriot act has given the flight crews the freedom to treat their paying customers like total garbage, and the only recourse the customers have is to pull out their phones and do exactly what is happening now.
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Or get up and take your free meal, 800 voucher, and resdheduled flight. It's not like that is a bad deal. Does it suck and make for a hassle, yes, but it doesn't happen everyday to everyone. In my life of flying I e been bumped like 3 times and all compensated tona total of well over 2500 dollars. I'd say that's fare
 
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bigdaddy said:
Or get up and take your free meal, 800 voucher, and resdheduled flight. It's not like that is a bad deal. Does it suck and make for a hassle, yes, but it doesn't happen everyday to everyone. In my life of flying I e been bumped like 3 times and all compensated tona total of well over 2500 dollars. I'd say that's fare
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It should still be his choice to take the deal or not. It's not his fault that the airlines are greedy and sell seats that aren't actually available.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
It should still be his choice to take the deal or not. It's not his fault that the airlines are greedy and sell seats that aren't actually available.
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He agreed to it knowlgly by purchasing the ticket. It's not the airlines fault he can't read and comprehend his contract
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
If he wanted to get to his destination it's not like he had a choice.
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Yes he did, fly later. The choice was get removed from the plane or take the deal. A choice he agreed to by buying the ticket. Again, it's his fault and he has a history of bad decision making. Flying is a privledge, not a right
 
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bigdaddy said:
Or get up and take your free meal, 800 voucher, and resdheduled flight. It's not like that is a bad deal. Does it suck and make for a hassle, yes, but it doesn't happen everyday to everyone. In my life of flying I e been bumped like 3 times and all compensated tona total of well over 2500 dollars. I'd say that's fare
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Everyone is different. My free time is rare and worth more than an $800 voucher.
 
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txbo said:
Everyone is different. My free time is rare and worth more than an $800 voucher.
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Then don't fly. No one is making you. But when you buy that ticket you agree and should be aware that your arrival time and date aren't guaranteed. Hell, they don't even have to offer money. Be glad and take it or don't fly. Sorry but that's the facts
 
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bigdaddy said:
Then don't fly. No one is making you. But when you buy that ticket you agree and should be aware that your arrival time and date aren't guaranteed. Hell, they don't even have to offer money. Be glad and take it or don't fly. Sorry but that's the facts
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I bet most fliers aren't aware of the fine print on the back of their ticket. I know the facts but reject the notion that I have to like it or stay home. That's silly. I hope this fiasco brings change to the industry practices.

FWIW, I have a million miles on one airline and enough miles on others that I won't get bumped. Additionally, I normally fly first class. Industry change won't mean much to me. The people that usually get taken advantage of are the meek and the young. People that can't or wont stick up for themselves. They deserve better.
 
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bigdaddy said:
Then don't fly. No one is making you. But when you buy that ticket you agree and should be aware that your arrival time and date aren't guaranteed. Hell, they don't even have to offer money. Be glad and take it or don't fly. Sorry but that's the facts
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Or we could press our lawmakers to make changes.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Read it last night, and while I agree that she had some points I still think they had several options short of what they resorted to. The bottom line is that the airlines create the problems by overbooking these flights. Then they want to solve the problem by removing a paying customer whose only mistake was believing that an agreement made in good faith would be honored.

My main outrage is over the fact that this is legal in the first place. I don't care if the doctor gets paid or not. I just hope all of the outrage sparks some change in the laws that allow this sort of thing to happen.
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There's never gonna be a law change that allows you to refuse to leave a plane when asked.

Forget for a second about the overbooking. Yes it is awful and it should not happen. But the bottom line is this guy was asked to leave and he refused. He got what was coming.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
There's never gonna be a law change that allows you to refuse to leave a plane when asked.

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You're probably right but there could be restrictions on valid reasons to remove a passenger or laws to keep it from ever getting to that point.
 
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