US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

[hog88]

The question that should be asked is can the U.S. beat Iran in a ground war if it were to escalate that????

Hopefully it will not escalate to a ground war but to answer your question it would depend entirely on the ROE our troops are given.

 

[carlos86]

Would not be surprised if we were expelled from Iraq at this point.


Iraqi PM also calls operation “a flagrant violation of the conditions for the presence of the American forces in Iraq and its role which supposed to be limited to training Iraqi forces and fighting ISIS“

 

[carlos86]

Hopefully it will not escalate to a ground war but to answer your question it would depend entirely on the ROE our troops are given.

Same ROE from the Gulf War.

 

[Mick]

Same ROE from the Gulf War.

Are you still in the military?

 

[carlos86]

U.S. oil companies are evacuating Iraq.

 

[carlos86]

Are you still in the military?

Yes.

 

[0nelilreb]

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Just for context in case people were wondering ...senior campaign advisor to Mr. “ Nobody needs a firearm but the cops “ Bloomberg .

 

[hog88]

It’s completely relevant. We just assassinated another country’s military leader. This isn’t simply a terrorist organization. This is an act of war on another country. There are a lot of scumbags out there, it doesn’t mean this was a wise decision.

Was he in Iraq with the Iraqi governments permission? Or was he there illegally?

 

[hog88]

Of course, but we all acknowledge that the war in Iraq was a disaster. Imagine Iraq with a significantly stronger army with far more difficult terrain to travel through. This isn’t a question of if we win, it’s a question of is it worth the costs? Absolutely not.

The Iraq war was not a disaster, the period after the war was the disaster. The war was prosecuted efficiently and expediently it was the terrible decisions to disband the Iraqi Army and government that led to the disaster after the war.

 

[carlos86]

Was he in Iraq with the Iraqi governments permission? Or was he there illegally?

Iraq has a military cooperation agreement with Iran.

 

[TheDeeble]

Honestly, I'm wondering if starting a new war would hurt his chances at re-election.

At least 50% of the country will be against anything he does, because Trump.

I'd think there's a lot of people on the fence about him that would lose interest by escalating new military conflicts in the Middle East. Lot of people are willing to tolerate him, but they're also getting tired constant military action.

And then there will always be the mooks that cheer him pulling the US troops out of military conflict, and then at the same time cheering that he's bombing other countries and flexing US muscle because he's not a pansy.

 

[SmokyRiverDog]

Honestly, I'm wondering if starting a new war would hurt his chances at re-election.

At least 50% of the country will be against anything he does, because Trump.

I'd think there's a lot of people on the fence about him that would lose interest by escalating new military conflicts in the Middle East. Lot of people are willing to tolerate him, but they're also getting tired constant military action.

And then there will always be the mooks that cheer him pulling the US troops out of military conflict, and then at the same time cheering that he's bombing other countries and flexing US muscle because he's not a pansy.

It does hurt. It appears his re-election was imminent. Now, he brings into play criticism from those not interested in any military action. He also may lose his high ground on the economy with rising oil prices and possible ramifications to the overall economy going into the election. He loses more than he gains from this relative to re-election.

 

[hog88]

Same ROE from the Gulf War.

Then yes, we would destroy any and all of their military that enters Iraq. I see no reason for and no cause for us to enter Iran with ground troops.

 

[davethevol]

Honestly, I'm wondering if starting a new war would hurt his chances at re-election.

At least 50% of the country will be against anything he does, because Trump.

I'd think there's a lot of people on the fence about him that would lose interest by escalating new military conflicts in the Middle East. Lot of people are willing to tolerate him, but they're also getting tired constant military action.

And then there will always be the mooks that cheer him pulling the US troops out of military conflict, and then at the same time cheering that he's bombing other countries and flexing US muscle because he's not a pansy.

I don’t think this evolves into a full fledged war. For all we know, this is just the thing to get the attention of the leaders in Iran to let them know the gloves are off. They were bragging that Trump couldn’t do a damn thing, well he just did bigly.

 

[hog88]

Iraq has a military cooperation agreement with Iran.

So, that means exactly squat. Simply having an agreement (and details of the agreement are sketchy) does not mean any Iranian military leader can enter Iraq. Any SOF agreement would also dictate what he could do inside the country if he were there legally.

 

[LouderVol]

The question that should be asked is can the U.S. beat Iran in a ground war if it were to escalate that????

Honest question how much more advanced are they than Iraq? I know they got that new russian missile system, but I seriously doubt they have enough to fully clear the skies for a prolonged engagement.

 

[hog88]

Honestly, I'm wondering if starting a new war would hurt his chances at re-election.

At least 50% of the country will be against anything he does, because Trump.

I'd think there's a lot of people on the fence about him that would lose interest by escalating new military conflicts in the Middle East. Lot of people are willing to tolerate him, but they're also getting tired constant military action.

And then there will always be the mooks that cheer him pulling the US troops out of military conflict, and then at the same time cheering that he's bombing other countries and flexing US muscle because he's not a pansy.

If this leads to war it will absolutely hurt his chances at reelection.

 

[PeaceCorpsVol]

Just for context in case people were wondering ...senior campaign advisor to Mr. “ Nobody needs a firearm but the cops “ Bloomberg .
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He just retweeted trump, remember...there is always a tweet

 

[PeaceCorpsVol]

It does hurt. It appears his re-election was imminent. Now, he brings into play criticism from those not interested in any military action. He also may lose his high ground on the economy with rising oil prices and possible ramifications to the overall economy going into the election. He loses more than he gains from this relative to re-election.

No, it wasn’t

 

[0nelilreb]

He just retweeted trump, remember...there is always a tweet

I remember , all I did was give context as to who he is . I didn’t know him until I looked him up .

 

[AirVol]

Headlines gonna say “ Austere scholar bites the dust”.

 

[LouderVol]

So what was an Iranian Military Leader doing in Iraq in the first damn place? Was his presence requested by the Iraqi government for some reason? I’m gonna go out on a limb and speculate we didn’t request he be in Iraq

This is the only thing I am still spending any hope on.

No matter what this is a huge fricking event.

But to compare this to Archduke Ferdinand is a bit misleading. Baghdad was a warzone. I want to hear any justification for their CiC being there the day after an attack on our embassy.

 

[davethevol]

Headlines gonna say “ Austere scholar bites the dust”.

“Devoted husband and father murdered while traveling for work.”

 

[LouderVol]

The Iranian military has been in Iraq for about 4 years. They have a bilateral agreement.

He wasnt meeting Iraqi leaders....

And I dont remember the last time we had the president or a JCoS running around an active warzone, even with a bilateral agreement.

 

[carlos86]

Honest question how much more advanced are they than Iraq? I know they got that new russian missile system, but I seriously doubt they have enough to fully clear the skies for a prolonged engagement.

We have the tech advantage but Iran has the advantage of terrain and playing in their home field. Iran air defense network is more sophisticated than Syria’s. Iran could launch asymmetric attacks for a while and we could trade blows but sooner or later we would have to take the war to them.