US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

No that's BS. But if you want to play that game Trump's lied so you shouldn't believe him ever. Is that how your silly game is played?
I don’t trust Trump on anything. So you trust our intelligence community On Russia but not when it comes to military issues?
 
I don’t trust Trump on anything. So you trust our intelligence community On Russia but not when it comes to military issues?
I've not even questioned the intelligence on this. What's done is done as far as I'm concerned. There's no going back, but yes I trust the IC's assessment of Russia elections interference over that of the Right wing Trump supporting echo chamber.

So are we going to find those missing emails in Ukraine or some fat guys basement? What's your working theory?
 
Don't think Trump wants, or is trying to, start a war. You are right though, he can point to the killing of Soleimani, good headline numbers on economy, etc., and say "all these Dems still want to do is impeach me."
If the Democrats had done anything at all during this time Trump would be doomed. But neither side wants to act like an adult. So for many, the child that at least was doing something somewhat productive is a more respectable vote.

I hate that we have gotten to this point.
 
If the Democrats had done anything at all during this time Trump would be doomed. But neither side wants to act like an adult. So for many, the child that at least was doing something somewhat productive is a more respectable vote.

I hate that we have gotten to this point.
If the Dems didn't pursue impeachment, the vast majority of their base would be outraged with them and would replace them with more hardliners like "the Squad." Politicians, by definition, do and say things that will help them get re-elected. They are just responding to what their electorate demands.

For as much grief as McConnell got (and it was deserved) for his comment that his goal in the Senate was to "make Barack Obama a one-term President," the Dems seem to have taken that attitude one step further against Trump. Their 2020 message will be 90% Trump should be removed from office, 10% free s**t brigade. Unless there's a recession between now and election day, they have very little chance at defeating him.
 
We were watching videos last night of the C130 angel of death.... Impressive.

I don't think it was an AC-130. Those use side firing guns. The video looked more like a stationary rather than an orbiting gun platform. Very impressive, and good to know the Army has that kind of firepower. My dad always complained that the Air Force didn't pay enough attention to close air support; he flew P-47s in WW2 and fighter interceptors until he retired in 1960.
 
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I don't think it was an AC-130. Those use side firing guns. The video looked more like a stationary rather than an orbiting gun platform. Very impressive, and good to know the Army has that kind of firepower. My dad always complained that the Air Force didn't pay enough attention to close air support; he flew P-47s in WW2 and fighter interceptors until he retired in 1960.
Whatever it was, it had some impressive capabilities.
 
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I don't think it was an AC-130. Those use side firing guns. The video looked more like a stationary rather than an orbiting gun platform. Very impressive, and good to know the Army has that kind of firepower. My dad always complained that the Air Force didn't pay enough attention to close air support; he flew P-47s in WW2 and fighter interceptors until he retired in 1960.


This is what we were watching . Also very cool your dad flew the P-47 . They have actual mission footage on YouTube , if you wanted to see more of it .

 
This is what we were watching . Also very cool your dad flew the P-47 . They have actual mission footage on YouTube , if you wanted to see more of it .



It's always hard to tell from video clips, but the trajectory looks too flat and stationary for a circling AC-130. I did originally think AC-130 with the big bursts from the artillery piece they carry in the back, but I agree with the the other analysis ... something like an Apache with a gun and missiles. Either one should definitely make somebody on the ground think twice about stirring up trouble.
 
Who is the bad guy?

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President Lyndon Johnson, when told the government of France demanded withdrawal of US troops and the NATO headquarters from France: "when a man asks you to leave his house, you take your hat and go."
Interestingly, he didn't chose to pull out of Vietnam...

Carlos86, would you happen to know why France would make that sort of demand to the United States at that time?
 
Looks like the war-hawks "swamp" got to President Trump. I was really hoping President Trump truly meant peace and getting our troops out of the Middle East. When are we going to stop fighting wars for Israel and Saudi Arabia?
Looks like never. And unfortunately, some of the "patriots" in here and around the country on the right side of the aisle are just fine with perpetual war in the sandbox.
 
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