USC Please Give me a break.

#77
#77
VolfanMike said:
Cal is still wondering what happend in Knoxville. How do you answer that one? Works both ways, I think Lynch is till searching for a tooth to.
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agreed. we got our butt kicked. in 06 tenn was the more physical team in 07 and 08 Cal and UCLA were.
 
#84
#84
droski said:
the pac-10 as a whole plays a FAR harder non conference schedule than the SEC.
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Because the SEC has to play eachother. You cannot argue that from top to bottom the SEC isnt superior to PAC-10. The Vols lost to a team that would be dead last in the SEC this year. UCLA will struggle to win 6 games....Book It.
 
#85
#85
droski said:
the pac-10 as a whole plays a FAR harder non conference schedule than the SEC.
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probably true, but they've definitely steered clear of the horses in the SEC. Arky ain't it and the UT you've seen of late hasn't been it either.

Just so happens that playing ND and the like is nothing but beating another weak mid major these days.
 
#86
#86
VolfanMike said:
Because the SEC has to play eachother. You cannot argue that from top to bottom the SEC isnt superior to PAC-10. The Vols lost to a team that would be dead last in the SEC this year. UCLA will struggle to win 6 games....Book It.
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The SEC is superior. No question. A look merle at recruiting rankings makes that obvious. But the gap is not what you think it is. And I agree UCLA will struggle to win 6 games. That's why i can't believe you guys would argue that hte pac-10 stinks. And UCLA is better than: kentucky, vandy, ole miss, miss state, and probaby arkansas and south carolina. Let's face it this isn't the SECs best year.

BigPapaVol said:
probably true, but they've definitely steered clear of the horses in the SEC. Arky ain't it and the UT you've seen of late hasn't been it either.

Just so happens that playing ND and the like is nothing but beating another weak mid major these days.
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The SEC (outside of Tenn) refuses to schedule home and home games against the pac-10.
 
#87
#87
droski said:
The SEC is superior. No question. A look merle at recruiting rankings makes that obvious. But the gap is not what you think it is. And I agree UCLA will struggle to win 6 games. That's why i can't believe you guys would argue that hte pac-10 stinks. And UCLA is better than: kentucky, vandy, ole miss, miss state, and probaby arkansas and south carolina.



The SEC (outside of Tenn) refuses to schedule home and home games against the pac-10.
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USC, KY and Vandy could beat UCLA. I really have no idea what so ever how we lost to them.
 
#89
#89
droski said:
both those teams played in the SEC championship game the year SC beat them AT HOME. and i'm sure SC would be more than glad to schedule a home and home with florida or georgia, but SEC teams (sans tenn) are pussies and don't travel out west.
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I'm not saying it wasn't a great accomplishment by USC to come to the south and blowout both Auburn and Arkansas at home, but it wasn't quite the herculean feat you make it sound like.

Auburn was actually 8-5 in 2003 and didn't sniff the upper echelons of the SEC that season, the year they got blown out 23-0 at home by So Cal. They also lost at home to Ole Miss that season, and got beaten worse by Georgia and LSU than they did by Southern Cal

In 2006 When So Cal blew out Arkansas at home, Darren McFadden had been injured prior to the game and saw very little action that game. If there was ever a one-man football team it was the 06 Razorbacks, so playing a McFadden-less Arkansas wasn't quite the same as facing them in the SEC Championship like Florida.
 
#90
#90
Volmania said:
I'm not saying it wasn't a great accomplishment by USC to come to the south and blowout both Auburn and Arkansas at home, but it wasn't quite the herculean feat you make it sound like.

Auburn was actually 8-5 in 2003 and didn't sniff the upper echelons of the SEC that season, the year they got blown out 23-0 at home by So Cal. They also lost at home to Ole Miss that season, and got beaten worse by Georgia and LSU than they did by Southern Cal

In 2006 When So Cal blew out Arkansas at home, Darren McFadden had been injured prior to the game and saw very little action that game. If there was ever a one-man football team it was the 06 Razorbacks, so playing a McFadden-less Arkansas wasn't quite the same as facing them in the SEC Championship like Florida.
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True but jones isn't exactly a lousy backup. mcfadden wouldn't have stopped them from scoring 55 points.
 
#91
#91
droski said:
True but jones isn't exactly a lousy backup. mcfadden wouldn't have stopped them from scoring 55 points.
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what he left out was that Arky had no QB at the time. The guy that started never again saw the field as QB and the guy that replaced him is now a backup at USC.
 
#92
#92
droski said:
True but jones isn't exactly a lousy backup. mcfadden wouldn't have stopped them from scoring 55 points.
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McFadden would have helped Arkansas eat up more clock and given the defense more rest. I'm sure USC would have won anyway, but I don't believe the score would have been nearly so lopsided
 
#94
#94
droski said:
he was good enough to go 8-0 in the SEC.
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I don't believe those were all SEC games, but you know as well as I that they won in spite of him and he was replaced in 1st quarter by the heralded Casey Dick, never to be seen again (until mommy whined and they played him in a horrendous offensive performance in Orlando).
 
#95
#95
The fact remains that the "USC has never beaten anyone good" argument is rather silly. I could say the same for the last 2 national champions out of the SEC if I really wanted too.
 
#98
#98
droski said:
The fact remains that the "USC has never beaten anyone good" argument is rather silly. I could say the same for the last 2 national champions out of the SEC if I really wanted too.
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I'm not arguing that they've never beaten anyone good. I think they have the marquee program in the nation right now, followed next by two or three SEC schools. I don't think they're the juggernaut that the media portrays, but they are great. They built most of their hype beating OU, who had horrendous pass D and an awful football game from their QB.

Losing that game to TX should have dented Carroll's legacy a bit because he had a much better football team on the field.
 
#99
#99
droski said:
The fact remains that the "USC has never beaten anyone good" argument is rather silly. I could say the same for the last 2 national champions out of the SEC if I really wanted too.
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USC has beaten lots of good teams. I just would like to see them play against the best the SEC has to offer in any given season to really get a measure of them.

I would have liked to have seen them and Auburn play for the National Championship in 2004, the year Auburn had their great team. I wish they could have played LSU in 2003 when the Tigers won the national championship. I even wish it had been USC instead of Ohio State in the championship games these past two seasons.

Hopefully, we will see USC and the this year's SEC Champion finally meet in the BCS Championship game.
 
#100
#100
USCs D that year was downright horrible. and let's not forget that he was one first down on 4th and 1 away from winning that game. Look i hate SC, but this run is impresssive. No one would question that SC historically is one of the top-5 programs of all time and this is their best era by a decent margin. That's impressive considering the pac-10 is much better than it was say in the early 70s.
 
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